orchid for id: orchid growing on a mango tree, also on other trees
… most probably Acampe praemorsa, locally known as waghri (Marathi: वाघरी).
Yes sir, this is Acampe praemorsa.
Acampe confusion: A posting made by one of orchid enthusiastic …, on the facebook group called “Orchids of the Western Ghats’ has brought a lot of discussion and great confusion for us. Some observers, on personal note, said that Acampe praemorsa and A papilosa are synonym. Wherein others believe that both are different species and have different flowering season. I am posting both clicks on efI and look forward for some more light on it. I have attached Acampe praemorsa that was clicked by me on the south part of Sanjay Gandhi National Park , clicked on 18th May`12 and another Acampe , clicked by … on 9th Nov`12 on northern part of Sanjay Gandhi National Park.
That someone who created the confusion was me only !!!
Its very strange, but I saw all those pics by … but some times pics dont help to 100% accuracy.
One fine day during my PhD work I was driving through forests of Saranda in Jharkhand and I saw huge plants. I was surprised, because, its like I have pics and shadows of orchids, that I have seen, in my head. Its hard to explain how!!! and whenever those which I see in front of my eyes dont match with the shadows in my head, I can make out that they are different without even knowing the whole plant. The plant I saw that day was too big for anything to fit in from Jharkhand, My driver who was actually sitting next to me (I was driving), I stopped the car, went on back gear to around 300m and then stopped, got out of car and I knew the big orchid though it was new record for Jharkhand. My driver said WOW WO ORCHID KYA HAI???? but I knew what it was and I said, WOW TO MUJHE PATA HAI, BUT USKE BAGAL ME CHHOTA WALA KYA HAI? And I walked to this plant, which actually had fruits smaller than my imagination. I said, WOW YE TO ACAMPE PRAEMORSA KA BACHHA LAGTA HAI and we started laughing. I was 100% sure it was Acampe but not praemorsa. Later I identified it as Acampe papillosa, second new record for Jharkhand. On this day, I found 4 new records for Jharkhand!!!
Having seen both plants in real I know they are different, before that me too thought them to be same. Fruit is papillosa is around 2-3 cm long but in praemorsa its more than 5cm and 10 times thicker than papillosa. Leaves can some times be double the size in praemorsa. Roots are thicker in praemorsa and ofcourse the spur is more pronounced in papillosa. Apart from usual smaller size of flowers (though not much).
Hope you can make out the different between these two plants
I know pics r not good because those days, I didnt have a good camera. Strange……
Thank you very much … for pictures and information on A papilosa. I have taken note of the differences mentioned by you. I think, I would go to the location and take another clear picture from all possible angles and record observations in the field notes.
Yeoor hills visit report May 15/2013 : Attachments (1 + 4). 3 posts by 2 authors.
Visitedyeoor hills Part of Sanjay gandhi national park, Mumbai, Maharashtra on May 15/2013
orchid for id : Attachments (1). 12 posts by 8 authors.
Id orchid Plz Today 15/5/2013 at Sanjay gandhi Nation park, Borilvili, mumbai, Maharashtra
We can wait for … comment
I think its Acampe rigida (Buch-Hum. ex J.E. Smith) P.F. Hunt
Beautiful photo; It looks like Acampe praemorsa
I humbly think that this is Acampe praemorsa. I will need picture of whole plant to confirm. A. rigida has much longer and branhed inflorescence. Leaves are bigger too which I cant see here.
Here are my Acampe images from Yeoor which I have identified as A. rigida.
To my understanding all your pics are of Acampe praemorsa.
I think its not Acampe praemorsa due to the yellow with purplish brown transverse stripes and the lip structure and also differ in plant. but inflorescence looks like Acampe praemorsa. I think it is due to dry condition……. from my side it is Acampe rigida……
The labellum of rigida is much smaller though flower is bigger. Stripe colours never matter except in ochracea where they are reddish. Rigida leaves are much broader and whole plant is much bigger than all other Acampe in the world.
Acampe praemorsa (Roxb.) Blatt. & McCann
Very beautiful epiphyte, nice to see this through your lens.. thanks …, well begun..
This is truly A. praemorsa. …, please check the fruit here.
WONDERFUL…. thanks for sharing…
Excellent pictures including the fruit as … had indicated.
Adding something I noticed
The difference between 2 epiphytes Vanda and Acampe.
The leaf apex of Vanda is irregularly toothed with 2-3 sharp teeth whereas
The leaf apex of Acampe is bilobed with unequal lobes which I can see at one place
Orchidaceae Fortnight : Acampe praemorsa : Attachments (2). 3 posts by 3 authors.
Yeoor Forest (Part Of sanjay gandhi National park), Thane, maharashtra
Yes Acampe praemorsa.
Orchidaceae Fortnight:: Acampe praemorsa from Karnala bird Sanctuary (NSJ-03) : Attachments (2). 3 posts by 3 authors.
Acampe praemorsa from Karnala Bird Sanctuary near Mumbai.
Yes this is Acampe praemorsa.
Orchidaceae fortnight ::Acampe praemorsa :: Karnala, Panvel :: PKA8: : Attachments (3). 5 posts by 5 authors.
Wild Orchid from Karnala Bird Sanctuary.
Bot. name: Acampe praemorsa
Date /Time: 23-05-2010 / 09:20AM
Location: Karnala Bird Sanctuary, near Panvel
Yes Acampe praemorsa
Orchidaceae Fortnight:: Acampe praemorsa | SGNP : Attachments (1). 4 posts by 3 authors.
Sanjay Gandhi National Park, Mumbai
Good Shot … I think it was at a distance so closeup missed
Yes Acampe praemorsa
Thanks friends, Yes …, it was high up on a tree and not accessible to climb up on that 🙁
ORCHIDACEAE Juss. Fortnight: Acampe praemorsa (Roxb.) Blatt. & McCann from Jharkhand, PKS-144 : Attachments (1). 2 posts by 2 authors.
Acampe praemorsa (Roxb.) Blatt. & McCann, J. Bombay Nat. Hist. Soc. 35: 495 (1932).
Epidendrum praemorsum Roxb., Pl. Coromandel 1: 34 (1795).
Cymbidium praemorsum (Roxb.) Sw., Nova Acta Regiae Soc. Sci. Upsal. 6: 75 (1799).
Sarcanthus praemorsus (Roxb.) Lindl. ex Spreng., Syst. Veg. 3: 721 (1826).
Sarcochilus praemorsus (Roxb.) Spreng., Syst. Veg. 3: 721 (1826).
Saccolabium papillosum Lindl., Edwards’s Bot. Reg. 18: t. 1552 (1833).
Rhynchostylis papillosa (Lindl.) Heynh., Alph. Aufz. Gew.: 594 (1847).
Acampe papillosa (Lindl.) Lindl., Fol. Orchid. 4: 2 (1853), nom. superfl.
Saccolabium praemorsum (Roxb.) Hook.f., Fl. Brit. India 6: 62 (1890), nom. illeg.
Gastrochilus papillosus (Lindl.) Kuntze, Revis. Gen. Pl. 2: 661 (1891), nom. superfl.
Gastrochilus praemorsus (Roxb.) Kuntze, Revis. Gen. Pl. 2: 661 (1891).
Vanda wightiana Lindl. ex Wight, Icon. Pl. Ind. Orient. 5: t. 1670 (1851).
Acampe excavata Lindl., Fol. Orchid. 4: 3 (1853).
Acampe wightiana (Lindl. ex Wight) Lindl., Fol. Orchid. 4: 2 (1853).
Vanda fasciata Gardner ex Lindl., Fol. Orchid. 4: 2 (1853).
Saccolabium papillosum Dalzell & A.Gibson, Bombay Fl.: 264 (1861), nom. illeg.
Saccolabium wightianum (Lindl. ex Wight) Hook.f., Fl. Brit. India 6: 62 (1890), nom. illeg.
Distribution: India to Myanmar, Sri Lanka
Lovely Slide again.
ORCHIDACEAE Juss. Fortnight: Acampe praemorsa from KFRI Kerala BS77 : Attachments (1). 3 posts by 2 authors.
Acampe praemorsa from KFRI Kerala
No other photo available.. Sorry
This could be Acampe praemorsa
Plant For ID : Jim Corbett,Uttarakhand : 100714 : AK-16 : 6 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (3).
A wild plant, probably an Orchid, seen growing on the bark of a tree at Corbett.
Picture taken on 17/5/14.
Few unopened buds are visible in the cropped picture.
? Vanda roxburghi
If you look carefully you can see two orchids there. …………………..
Second is with green leaves shorter than the red ones and bearing fruits – Acampe praemorsa.
… should see this praemorsa fruits here.
The fruits are young and they will grow longer.
Orchid_8-6-2015_ for identification : 4 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (6)
Submitting images of a specimen of an epiphytic Orchid which I believe is commonly called ‘Spider orchid” for identification.
Date/time:8-06-2015/ about 5-00 PM
Location: Tarikere, Chikmagalur, Karnataka, about 1000msl
Habitat: Wild, moist deciduous forests
Habit; An epiphytic Orchid
The specimen appears to be Acampe praemorsa. Kindly validate.
With long sized fruit and long sized leaves, YES this is Acampe praemorsa.
Flora of Kaiga_ID_Please_03082015 PTR1 : 6 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (1)
Date/Time-:05/04/15 – 10:30
This is Acampe praemorsa
Please send a complete plant picture.
The Orchid in the Photograph is Acampe praemorsa.
Acampe praemorsa (Roxb.) Blatt. & McCann SN Oct 14 : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1)
Acampe praemorsa(Roxb.) Blatt. & McCann is an epiphytic orchid from Thirumala hills of Andhra Pradesh
Interesting… That fruits looks a bit smaller than praemorsa!!
TSPOCT2015-41: Images of Acampe praemorsa (Orchidaceae) shared. : 1 post by 1 author. Attachments (5)
It is my pleasure to share few images of Acampe praemorsa (Orchidaceae)
Habit: Epiphytic herb
Habitat: Moist deciduous forest fringe.
Sighting: Tarikere, Chikmagalur, Karnataka, about 1000 msl
TSP-MAY2016-10-339:Images of Acampe praemorsa (Orchidaceae) : 5 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (5)
It is my pleasure to share few images of Acampe praemorsa (Orchidaceae)
Habitat: Wild, Epiphytic, Semievergreen forest fringe
Sighting: Chikmagalur, Karnataka, about 1000 msl
Yes this looks like the true Acampe praemorsa.
Nice pics and thanks for sharing.
MS Dec.2016/07 Acampe sp. for id : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (1)
Location : Lunglei, Mizoram
Date ; 29-11-2016
Habit : Epiphytic herb
Habit : Wild / cultivated
Yes Acampe papillosa
Orchid for ID :: Devgad, Konkan :: May 2017 – ARKMAY16 : 5 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (2)
I saw these orchids on many trees near Devgad, MH in May 2017.
Requested to please ID the same. Are they any Acampe species?
I think this is Acampe praemorsa
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commonly known as: acampe orchid, brittle orchid • Kannada: ಮರಬಾಳೆ marabale • Konkani: कानफोडें
kanphodem •Malayalam: thalia-maravara • Marathi: वाघरी waghri • Sanskrit: गन्धनाकुली gandhanakuli, रास्ना rasna
botanical names: Acampe praemorsa (Roxb.) Blatt. & McCann … synonyms: Acampe excavata Lindl. • Acampe papillosa (Lindl.) Lindl. [Illegitimate] • Acampe wightiana (Lindl. ex Wight) Lindl. • Saccolabium papillosum Lindl. … and more at The Plants List
Any help here ?
In Marathi, two names kanbher and maravasha are found mentioned on the internet and reference books, however do not find any entries in dictionaries. … Do you know them? please provide them in native script.
In Malayalam, the name could be thalia–maravara OR taliyamaravada; please provide the valid name in native script.
The plant in above photo can EITHER be Acampe ochracea OR A. praemorsa… as pointed by Dr …
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first photo is Acampe ochracea and in second photo flower is not clear though it may be A. praemorsa
a-KAM-pee — from the Greek akampes (inflexible, brittle); refers to the brittle flowers … Dave’s Botanary
pray-MOR-suh — bitten off on the end … Dave’s Botanarycommonly known as: acampe orchid, brittle orchid • Kannada: ಮರಬಾಳೆ marabale • Konkani: कानफोडें kanphodem • Malayalam: താലിമരവാഴ thaalimaravaazha, ഉപ്പുതാളി upputali • Marathi: वाघरी waghri • Sanskrit: रास्ना rasna • Tulu: ಮರಬಾರೆ marabarebotanical names: Acampe praemorsa (Roxb.) Blatt. & McCann … synonyms: Acampe excavata Lindl. • Acampe wightiana (Lindl. ex Wight) Lindl. • Cymbidium praemorsum (Roxb.) Sw. • Epidendrum praemorsum Roxb. • Gastrochilus praemorsus (Roxb.) Kuntze • Rhynchostylis papillosa (Lindl.) Heynh. • Saccolabium papillosum Lindl. • Sarcanthus praemorsus (Roxb.) Lindl. ex Spreng. • Sarcochilus praemorsus (Roxb.) Spreng. • Vanda fasciata Gardner ex Lindl. • Vanda wightiana Lindl. ex Wight … status at The Plants List (2013). Version 1.1.
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87 ID wild plant orchid: 8 images.
Please ID wild plant,
Location: near Reserve Forest, Chathamattom, Ernakulam District, (Kochi) Kerala PIN:686671
Flower date: 25.05.2021, 03.30pm
Habitat: wild moisture, rooted on other tree
Plant habit: orchid rooted on branches of another tree, hard stem, long lasting
Leaves: alternate, lengthy, oblong
Flower: diameter:12mm, yellow, non fragrant
Fruit: rigid beans, green into black, size:3×.7cm not edible
Camera: mobile LG K10 2017 13mp
Acampe praemorsa (Roxb.) Blatt. & McCann ??
Please verify !
Yes, it is correct, thank you very much for identified my orchid,
This should be Acampe praemorsa