Agrimonia pilosa var. nepalensis

Agrimonia pilosa var. nepalensis (D. Don) Nakai, Bot. Mag. (Tokyo) 47(556): 247 247 1933. (Syn. Agrimonia eupatoria var. nepalensis (D. Don) Kuntze; Agrimonia nepalensis D. Don);

Hairy Agrimony, Downy agrimony • Nepali: भेराकुरो Bherakuro;

Rosaceae Fortnight 1-14 Sep.2015: Agrimonia pilosa from Uttarakhand_DSR_Sep_2/2 : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments(2)
Agrimonia pilosa Ledeb. is a common perennial herb in temperate and subalpine zones of Uttarakhand in rainy season.
Photographed in Naini Tal.

As per Flora of China, only Agrimonia pilosa var. nepalensis is distributed in India.

Also there is lot of confusion & lot of discussions have taken place between Agrimonia pilosa var. nepalensis or Agrimonia eupatoria ssp. asiatica.

I think you can put more light on this issue.

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Request for ID HP 1 – indiantreepix | Google Groups :
at around 2500 meters in the Dhauladhar Mountains at Dharmshala HP;

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VoF Week: Agrimonia pilosa var. nepalensis or Agrimonia eupatoria subsp. asiatica from valley: 9 images.

Agrimonia pilosa var. nepalensis or Agrimonia eupatoria subsp. asiatica from valley

I am still unable to conclude

Previous Discussion From …:

“Perhaps this is one thing we have to resolve. Most Indian books and websites (incl. FOI) consider Indian plant to be A. pilosa, whereas I thought our Chakrata plant as well as this one seems to me more as A. eupatoria subsp. asiatica. Perhaps we have to keep watch on flower size, fruit size and direction of prickles . According to Flora of China the following should be expected in our area:

Agrimonia pilosa var. nepalensis : Flowers 6-9 mm in diam.; fruiting hypanthium 7-8 x 3-4 mm including prikles erect when young, connivent when old; leaflets abaxially densely pubescent or tomentose-pubescent between veins, sparsely glandular punctate, adaxially hirsute or hirtellous on veins.”

On Pic 6488 size is shown by line that is 5 mm for fruit including prickles. for flower as per my calculations it is about 8-9 mm. To me Agrimonia pilosa var. nepalensis more close
help pls

Thanks … for nice analysis and conclusion.

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VOF Week: Agrimonia eupatorium from Trek:
This Rosaceae member was shot from a sloping meadow, while returning from Ghanghariya to Gobind Ghat…Agrimonia eupatorium..we found this in plenty at Chakrata….this time I didn’t take habit/leaves pictures…

Nice set of Pics. Yes … This was more common in Chakrata

Perhaps this is one thing we have to resolve. Most Indian books and websites (incl. FOI) consider Indian plant to be A. pilosa, whereas I thought our Chakrata plant as well as this one seems to me more as A. eupatoria subsp. asiatica. Perhaps we have to keep watch on flower size, fruit size and direction of prickles . According to Flora of China the following should be expected in our area:

Agrimonia eupatoria subsp. asiatica: Flowers 12-13 mm in diam.; fruiting hypanthium 8-10 x 5 mm including prickles, outer prickles recurved, innermost spreading; leaflets abaxially pubescent and pilose, adaxially appressed pilose.
Agrimonia pilosa var. nepalensis : Flowers 6-9 mm in diam.; fruiting hypanthium 7-8 x 3-4 mm including prikles erect when young, connivent when old; leaflets abaxially densely pubescent or tomentose-pubescent between veins, sparsely glandular punctate, adaxially hirsute or hirtellous on veins.

For more clarification I am sending you cropped pics. On Pic 6488 size is shown by line that is 5 mm for fruit including prickles. for flower as per my calculations it is about 8-9 mm. To me Agrimonia pilosa var. nepalensis more close

Adding some more pics of two plants
I think both are somewhat different

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VOF Week: Herb-1 for ID — at Joshimath:
Seen this herb near Joshimath.
Date/Time: 06-08-2012 / 11:00AM

Agrimonia sp. (A. eupatorium or A. pilosa)…

Yes Agrimonia pilosa var. pilosa (concluded as per … observations).

But … has concluded as Agrimonia pilosa var. nepalensis as per thread
Or am I mistaking something.

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Rosaceae Fortnight- Agrimonia pilosa from Himachal-GSG32/Sept 2015 : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1)
Rosaceae family in Himachal is also represented by a large number of herbaceous flora. In whatever little time that I get from the ever-increasing babugiri in the office, I try to capture as much native plant diversity as I can in my camera. In this mail and in the following mails, I’ll share some of the images I have captured of the herbaceous flora of Rosaceae family from different parts of Himachal Pradesh.
Agrimonia pilosa.

I think only Agrimonia pilosa var. nepalensis is found in India.

Agrimonia pilosa ABJUL01/05 : 5 posts by 2 authors. 4 images.

On the same walk last week I saw a couple of plants of this agrimony. I think this is Hairy Agrimony or Agrimonia pilosa. Please advise if I am wrong.

Agrimonia pilosa—Hairy Agrimony

Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP

1900m
26 June 2016

2nd one looks out of the world.

I think matches with images at Agrimonia pilosa var. nepalensis

As per Flora of China, only Agrimonia pilosa var. nepalensis is distributed in India

SK177NOV04-2016:ID : 9 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (12)
Sharing some pictures for ID shot at Hattiban, Kathmandu, Nepal on 25 October 2016 at 4800 ft.

I was immediately reminded of ‘Common Agrimony’ (Eupatorium eupatoria), though noted slight differences, which grows commonly in rough grassland & wood margins near to where I live in the UK (you can compare images of the two on my ‘Wild Flowers of Buckinghamshire’ web-site see: https://sites.google.com/a/shpa.org.uk/wfob/agrimonia-1 – which I have neglected altogether since joining this google group! My sentiment is that Britain is blessed with hundreds of active field botanists (though much remains still to be done) whereas India has fewer and since I have accumulated knowledge of Himalayan flora over decades, my time is best spent sharing this on this site, as long and as much as circumstances permit.
Indeed Stewart (1972) listed the plant as this species giving E.pilosa and E.pilosa var. nepalensis as synonyms. He commented that Agrimony was common in the temperate zone of Pakistan & Kashmir and very variable but he had not been able to divide it into distinct taxa. According to Kitamura the material from Pakistan was intermediate between E.eupatorium and E.pilosa. There is a second species of this genus in the UK which is very similar.
That aside this plant is now known as Agrimonia pilosa. ‘Flowers of the Himalaya’ give distribution of Pakistan to SW China @ 1000-3000m in shrubberies & cultivated areas saying it is readily distinguished by its long slender spike-like cluster of small yellow flowers and by its top-shaped fruit with numerous hooked bristles (young green ones can be seen in the images).
‘Flora of Kathmandu Valley’ record it from Godawari to Phulchoki @ 1650-2800m. Also Nagarjun 1600-2300m.

I neglected to say how pleasing it was to view a range of images covering flowers, young fruits, habit and foliage incl. both upper and lower surface of leaves – most helpful even though on this occasion we are dealing with a distinctive species (though will be informative for distinguishing varieties and between closely-related species if the genus is revised in the future). Having additional images and extra information is never a waste.

Thank you for the ID
Agrimonia pilosa Ledeb. (accepted name)
Nepali Names: भेराकुरो Bheraakuro / काठलाङ्गे Kaathalaange / गाँठेझार Gaathejhaar / काब्ले Kaable / शिला झार Shilajhaar

Only Agrimonia pilosa var. nepalensis (D. Don) Nakai is supposed to be found in Nepal as per Flora of China

Yes, this fits.

Sharing some links for further validation.
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=100836
Link 2
Link 3

I have seen these.

SK429 16MAR-2017:ID : 10 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (4)

Location: Lele, Lalitpur, , Nepal

Altitude: 4400 ft.

Date: 13 September 2014

Please check in Agrimonia spp. (Rosaceae) in eFI.
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Thanks, …, for Id. I also feel these images are closer to images at Agrimonia pilosa var. nepalensis

Thank you for the ID.
Agrimonia pilosa var. nepalensis (D. Don) Nakai (accepted name)
Nepali Names : काठलाङ्गे Kaathalaange / भेराकुरो Bheraakuro / गाँठे झार Gaanthe Jhaar / शिला झार Shilaa Jhaar / काब्ले Kaable

Triumfetta ? from Chakrata : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (4)
erect herb palmately compound leaf, petals yellowfruits characteristic with spinous margin, wild from Debvan area of Chakrata

This should be Agrimonia pilosa from Rosaceae..

Please check for Agrimonia pilosa (Rosaceae).
A.pilosa in eFI.