Berberislycium Royle, Ill. Bot. Himal. Mts. 64 1834. (Syn: Berberisangustifolia Roxb.; Berberisaurahuacensis Hook.f. [Invalid]; Berberislycium var. simlensis Ahrendt; Berberislycium var. subfasciculatum Ahrendt; Berberislycium var. subvirescens Ahrendt; Berberisvulgaris f. lycium (Royle) Parsa);
VoF Week :: DV :: 04 AUG 12 – 1131 :: armed bush along Ghangaria – Govind Ghat trail: 4 AUG 12
Ghangaria – Govind Ghat trail… about 6800 ft
Habitat: mountain slope
Habit: bushy shrub, about 2 – 4 m high, as wide; much branched, armed, dense foliage; flower bud
Hope Berberis lycium
Yes it is B. lycium
Request for Identification
Kindly identify this Berberis species.
Location: Paddar valley J&K.
Date: 10th May 2011
Altitude: 1800 meters asl
Plant height: 3-5 meters
I hope Berberis lycium
yes it is Berberis lycium,
Menispermaceae, Berberidaceae, Nymphaeaceae and Nelumbonaceae Fortnight: Berberidaceae- Berberis lycium from Srinagar, Kashmir-GSOCT05 : 5 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (4).
Berberis lycium, photographed from Above Cheshma Shah, Srinagar, Kashmir.
Thank you. I always wanted to see these flowers. I think there is a berry or two in one of the pictures? bluish?
what time of the year was this? because in another thread you have only leaves and thorns in April
first two on 8 july, last two (flowering) on 15 May. The plant flowers profusely in April May at lower altitudes (below 2000 m), may go to early June at higher altitudes.
so by july first week berries set in and mature
Menispermaceae, Berberidaceae, Nymphaeaceae and Nelumbonaceae Fortnight: Berberidaceae- Berberis chitria from Srinagar, Kashmir-GSOCT03 : 1 post by 1 author. Attachments (4).
Berberis lycium photographed from Srinagar, Kashmir
Menispermaceae, Berberidaceae, Nymphaeaceae and Nelumbonaceae Fortnight: Berberidaceae- Berberis lycium from Harwan, Kashmir-GSOCT09 : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (3).
Berberis lycium photographed from Harwan, Srinagar, Kashmir
the last picture is fantastic
in this flower shows its true hanging profile completely
Menispermaceae, Berberidaceae, Nymphaeaceae and Nelumbonaceae Fortnight: Berberidaceae- Berberis lycium from Kud, J & K-GSOCT11 : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2).
Menispermaceae, Berberidaceae, Nymphaeaceae and Nelumbonaceae Fortnight: Berberidaceae- Berberis lycium from Rudrpryag, Uttarakhand-GSOCT08 : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2)
Berberis lycium, photographed from Rudrpryag n Uttarakhand, pl. validate.
It should be Berberis lyceum
Menispermaceae, Berberidaceae, Nymphaeaceae and Nelumbonaceae Fortnight: Berberidaceae- Berberis lycium from Kulu and Manali, HP-GSOCT10 : 4 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (6)
Menispermaceae, Berberidaceae, Nymphaeaceae and Nelumbonaceae Fortnight: Berberidaceae- Berberis lycium from Morni, Haryana-GSOCT04 : 4 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2)
Berberis lycium photographed from Morni, Haryana in April, pl. validate
It is also Berberis lycium
ANJUN04/05 Berberis sp. for identification (Churdhar Trip 05) : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (4)
Berberis lycium ABJUL01/22 : 1 post by 1 author. 2 images.
Fruits on the Barberry bushes are turning nice purple (from green) and be soon edible.
I took a couple of pictures to share.
Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
21 July 2015.
Yes of great Ayurvedic herbal use
Loved your pictures
ps next year looking to the flowers on this shrub
Thank you … The paper is quite informative but the remark that the fruits fall off soon after rains start does not describe our plants accurately. The fruits here are still ripening and will be available on the bush for at least another month. We are already well in to the monsoon season (starting June beginning) and fruits are very much there on the bushes.
I did share the flowers a while ago (with butterflies) but will do so again next spring.
I have greater faith in the observations of Citizen scientists rather than glass palace academicians who dont get their feet wet!!! or hands dirty?
I dont know if the authors did library research or ever go to the fields!!
I just think the overall medicinal info was useful as a a starting point.
MBNN Fortnight::: Berberidaceae:: Berberis aristata for confirmation from Chakrata-NS 05 : 13 posts by 5 authors.
Please validate/correct the id of this Berberis sp. recorded from Chakrata and fairly common in the area…
Is this Berberis aristata ?
This is Berberis lycium
The underside of leaf being glaucous, it is not Berberis aristata, but Berberis asiatica.
Yes, it is Berberis aristata– Daruharidra of Ayurveda.
do they get these uniformly faded green berries?
should they not be dark green turning yellow/orange to orangered?
I have got three different views:
All the three are distinct taxa, perhaps more details are required from my side, for experts to conclude..
…, sorry for delay, these berries will not turn orange/red, they will ripe to bluish purple colour, however, due to my mixing up of pics from different areas/seasons, I cannot be very sure…
three different views: does that mean 3 different opinions about this one case?
… is the expert on this family
The fruits become bluish purple on ripening. In B. lycium, the inflorescence is shorter or equal to leaves; whereas in B. aristata, it is longer than the leaf tufts.
I think it matches with images of Berberis lycium Royle
I agree with … that it looks a lot like the B. lycium we get here but I am not familiar with B. aristata. If I am not mistaken B. aristata berries are red when ripe while B. lycium berries are deep purple which are ripening now.
Thanks, …, for validation.
ID Request: Devariya Tal trail : 10 posts by 4 authors. 1 image.
Location: Sari Village, along the Devariya Tal trail, just above temple
Altitude: 2000 meters
Date: May 6, 2015
Pl. also check comparative images at Berberis
If you have other images, pl. post.
Adding more images showing habit and context. Could it be B. chitria?
Thanks for the image. It looks close to B. glaucocarpa but not sure without looking at fruits: fruits are quite distinctive for glaucocarpa.
Winter Colours/ABDEC31 : 4 posts by 3 authors.
Idling about in the cold chilly morning today I found comfort in the warm autumn/winter colours of these plants. I thought I will share these with you. All photos were taken on my phone. As always, please correct me if I have misidentified any of these.
Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
16 December 2014
1. Indian Barberry (Berberis lycium)
Berberis lycium/ABAPR01/07 : 1 post by 1 author. Attachments (4)
Our barberry bushes are sprouting buds now. Here are a couple of pictures to show the young sprouts and one showing the yellow heartwood of a chopped up bush.
Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
11 April 2015
Berberis lycium ABMAY2019/03 : 3 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (28)
A comment in Flora Simlensis by Col. Collett under Berberis drew my attention to the irritable stamens of this genus (I hold Col. Collett’s work to be very superior) and I decided to investigate. The idea was that when an insect (or the legs of an insect) touch the base of the stamens, the stamens bend forward releasing the pollen (if they are ripe) onto the stigma achieving self-pollination. A paper here investigates this in detail. Another good source of information is here.
I brought a couple of flowers home to test the hypothesis. Upon touching the base of the stamens by a needle, the stamens did bend forward but only halfway or so towards the stigma. I repeated the process with several stamens individually or different flowers but saw only the halfway movement (see photos 4829 and 4836 recording the before and after stages). I then decided to observe insects visiting the flower and found many different species from beetles, flies to butterflies and moths. Since the bush is quite common in our area I was able to find some where I could observe the insects at my eye level. I found that the same movement occurred when insects touched the base of the stamens. After a few observation involving very small flies that entered the flowers and browsed the nectaries on the petals on either sides of the stamens to large butterflies that barely managed to stay on the flower, I thought the following:
That the stamens move forward fully only when the pollen is ready and the anther has moved to its correct perpendicular position to touch the stigma disc. or that the self-pollination is the last resort and first the flowers try to deposit their pollen on to the bodies of the visiting insects. When they fail to do so and near the end of their lives, they fall upon fully onto their stigmas. During my observations though, I did not see any of the insects covered by pollen but that may be due to my own ineptitude.
The number of sepals also intrigued me a little. When I looked close, I found three whorls of sepals starting with two small ones in the outermost and then three significantly larger ones in the middle and the largest three in the inner most (indistinguishable from the petals). That meant there were 8 sepals. I looked at more flowers and found it to be true. On researching further I discovered that the two smallest ones are the bracts (the third at the base of the flower stalk), also called prophylls. Again some good info here.
I have also included photos of its habit, the arrangement of flowers with respect to leaves, shape of leaves and spikes, of nectaries, unripe fruit, ripe fruit and withering flowers with stamens touching the pistil below the stigmatic disc to pull all in one place for reference.
Please advise if I have overlooked something here.
Mcleodganj and above,
April, May 2019 and previously Mar., July 2015-16
Botanical name: Dodonaea viscosa: 1 image.
State: jammu and kashmir