commonly known as: gentleman’s toes, ivy gourd • Hindi: कुन्द्रू kunduru • Kannada: ತೊಂಡೆ tonde • Konkani: तेंड्ले tendale • Malayalam: കോവയ്ക്ക kovakkai • Marathi: बिंब bimba, तेंडली tendali, तोंडली tondli • Punjabi: ਕੰਦੂਰੀ kanduri • Sanskrit: बिम्बफल bimbaphala, तुंडिका tundika • Tamil: கோவை kovai • Telugu: bimbika, దొండ donda
 
Perennial climbing or spreading herb with 3-5 angled or lobed glistening leaves; flowers white, 4-5 cm across; male and female on different plants; fruit ovoid or oblong, 3-5 cm along up to 2.5 cm broad, green, bright red when ripe.
 
kok-SIN-ee-uh — red; often spelled coccinea
GRAN-dees or GRAN-dis — large or spectacular Dave’s Botanary
 
Native to: Africa, Asia and Australia
 
Tender fruits are used as vegetable, one of the most well known vegetable of Poor man..;
Makes a delicious green kadi with the green leaves ground with fresh coconut and few spices. In Konkani we call this kadi ‘Tambli’;
It is safe to use the fruits at any stage. I have eaten plenty of ripe fruits when they turn fully red. Its sweet. While the green unripe fruits preferred as a vegetable, we generally avoid the fruits which turned reddish inside because they are more bitter and leathery and hence may change the taste and texture of the curry. Also the fact is the fruits that turned reddish inside, have mature prominent seeds that I don’t prefer to have in the dish. Otherwise, I don’t think it is harm to consume these ripening fruits; 
   

 

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This climber is one of the most common one.
Bot. name: Coccinia grandis
Family: Cucurbitaceae
Common name: Tondli
Tender fruits are used as vegetable, one of the most well known vegetable of Poor man..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccinia_grandis


– Today only I ate the bhaji made from thendli for lunch.


 

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Cucurbitaceae (pumpkin, or gourd family) » Coccinia grandis
Synonyms: Cephalandra indica, Coccinia indica

kok-SIN-ee-uh — red; often spelled coccinea
GRAN-dees or GRAN-dis — large or spectacular

commonly known as: gentleman’s toes, ivy gourd • Hindi: कुन्द्रू kunduru • Kannada: ತೊಂಡೆ tonde • Konkani: तेंड्ले tendale • Malayalam: കോവയ്ക്ക kovakkai • Marathi: बिंब bimba, तेंडली tendali, तोंडली tondli • Punjabi: ਕੰਦੂਰੀ kanduri • Sanskrit: बिम्बफल bimbaphala, तुंडिका tundika • Tamil: கோவை kovai • Telugu: bimbika, దొండ donda
Native to: Africa, Asia and Australia
Edible use:
… unripe fruit (as VEGETABLE), cooked and eaten

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Fruits & Vegetables week: Coccinia grandis the ivy gourd or Kundru: Coccinia grandis (L.) Voigt. (syn: C. cordifolia Cogn.) the ivy gourd locally sold in North India as Kundru vegetable, photographed in Delhi   


– This vegetable is also common in West Bengal in both cultivated and wild state. As Canada is quite an extension of India due to admirable population of Indians out here we find these vegetable out here too but believe me ivy gourd as well as parwal (Trichosanthes dioica) are imported from India. Due to severe climatic conditions these plants doesn’t do quite well out here even in the summer.


Tondli in Marathi, Tendle in Konkani. My mother makes a delicious green kadi with the green leaves ground
with fresh coconut and few spices. In Konkani we call this kadi ‘Tambli’.


My Pics of Coccinia grandis from Lohari Panipat Wildly growing


More Pics shot today from a village near Samalkha Panipat


The bee with blue stripes belongs to Amegilla genus. The colour is natural


It is so very clear. Especially I really admired the third pair of leg with the pollen sac cover clearly visible.


The Ivy Gourd creeper from my garden. We call it Kovakka in Malayalam.


hello – a question!: I have received this query. Honestly, I have no clue.. can some one contribute?

I deaily folllow your column ‘ kutuhal’ in Marathi newspaper ‘Loksatta’. I’m trying to find out the real reason behind a query of mine. I  hope you will help me. My question may sound stupid to you. I have taught since my childhood that ‘tondli’ (ivy gourd in english) should not be eaten when they have become red from inside. No reason was available. Now in my in laws place they say you can eat it. There is no harm. So the question is what is the reality. Should we eat or not. If the answer is no why not. If the answer is yes then why so. Can please take the effort to find out the solution for this?


If it is about Coccinia grandis (= C. indica, Cephalandra indica [‘Kovai’ in Tamil]), then I can say that it is safe to use the fruits at any stage. I have eaten plenty of ripe fruits when they turn fully red. Its sweet. While the green unripe fruits preferred as a vegetable, we generally avoid the fruits which turned reddish inside because they are more bitter and leathery and hence may change the taste and texture of the curry. Also the fact is the fruits that turned reddish inside, have mature prominent seeds that I don’t prefer to have in the dish. Otherwise, I don’t think it is harm to consume these ripening fruits.
You may find a picture of fruits, some turned reddish inside, in this wiki page  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sliced_kovals.jpg


No harm at all… matter of fact the red pulp is very little around the ripening seeds,  little though there is its   a little sweeter than in  green fruit,  and of course astringent to the taste…  and makes good veggeii… esp if a few are mixed in with the green ones… I know because I have eaten them, tasted them raw, and made into curry… Matter of fact.. even reddened ripening karela also tastes good mixed in… and its seeds heavenly deep fried… So moral of the story: feel free to eat it… no harm done…

 

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kok-SIN-ee-uh — red; often spelled coccinea
GRAN-dees or GRAN-dis — large or spectacular
Dave’s Botanary
Mar 11, 2007 … Chota Kashmir near Aarey Milk colony, Mumbai
commonly known as: gentleman’s toes, ivy gourd • Hindi: कुन्द्रू kunduru • Kannada: ತೊಂಡೆ tonde • Konkani: तेंड्ले tendale • Malayalam: കോവയ്ക്ക kovakkai • Marathi: बिंब bimba, तेंडली tendali, तोंडली tondli • Punjabi: ਕੰਦੂਰੀ kanduri • Sanskrit: बिम्बफल bimbaphala, तुंडिका tundika • Tamil: கோவை kovai • Telugu: bimbika, దొండ donda
Native to: Africa, Asia and Australia
References: Flowers of IndiaTopTropicalsWikipediaDave’s GardenM.M.P.N.D.Flowers of Sahyadri by Shrikant Ingalhalikar
more views: Jul 11, 2009 … along Ghodbunder Road near Gaimukh, Thane, Maharashtra

Feb 26, 2011 … in Bassein fort, Maharashtra
Jul 11, 2009 … along Ghodbunder Road near Gaimukh, Thane, Maharashtra
Sep 23, 2007 … at Pirojshanagar, Mumbai

It is कुंदरू in Hindi, 


yes available in markets here also, growing wild in plenty


 

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Cucurbitaceae Week: Coccinia grandis from Delhi:  Coccinia grandis (Linn.) Voigt, Hort. Suburb. Calc. 59. 1845.

syn Coccinia cordifolia sensu Cogn.; Coccinia indica Wight & Arn.
Common names: Ivy gourd
Hindi: Kundru, Ram kachryia
Perennial climbing or spreading herb with 3-5 angled or lobed glistening leaves; flowers white, 4-5 cm across; male and female on different plants; fruit ovoid or oblong, 3-5 cm along up to 2.5 cm broad, green, bright red when ripe.
Common in Delhi


 
 
Cucurbitaceae Week: Coccinia grandis from Panipat:  This one is Coccinia grandis (Linn.) Voigt, Hort. Suburb. Calc. 59, 1845; Bryonia grandis Linn., Mant. Pl. 1: 126, 1767; Coccinia indica Wt. & Arn., Prodr. 347, 1834; Cephalandra indica Naud., Arn. Sci. Nat. (Ser. 5) 5: 16, 1866; Fl. Br. Ind. II: 621
Vern.: Kundru, Kanduri, Ram-kachri.
A perennial herb with tuberous roots. Leaves 5-10 cm, 5-angled or lobed, cordate, shining. Petiole 2-2.5 cm. Flowers white. Calyx-lobes linear-oblong, reflexed. Corolla nearly 2.5 cm, lobes long, triangular. Fruit ovoid or oblong, bright-scarlet. Seeds embedded in red pulp.  
Shot from Panipat and surroundings at different times

 
Cucurbitaceae Week- Coccinea grandis – Ivy Gourd – 050412 – RK: Coccinea grandisIvy GourdSrirangapattana, Karnataka – 13/11/09 – 10.30am
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1j7RVSr-5w3I-EqVxqFCv5snnxgiWizCuth_VUiU5Y4Q/edit


Very beautiful pics …, you didn’t get the female flower somehow..


 

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Cucurbitaceae week: Coccinia grandis from Hooghly (WB):  

Last month, keeping in the mind of cucurbitaceae week, i recorded this species with intervals of 6 to 7 days to show different stages of development of its fruits.
Moreover the scientific name of this plant, TELAKUCHO in Bengali, is still unclear to me. Some sources say C. grandis & C. indica are two different species, while the other sources inform me that they are synonyms.
Species : Coccinia grandis L. (syn. C. indica)
NOTE : According to “Plant Groups” (the college text book that i follow) ‘Scarlet gourd’ is Cephalandra indica Naud. = Coccinia cordifolia Cogn.
Date : 15-03-12, 21-03-12, 28-03-12
Place : Gobra (Hooghly), WB


Lot of effort..detailed illustration… Hats off to u


Cucurbitaceae week: Coccinia grandis (supplementary post) from Hooghly:  

In my previous post of the same plant i have shown different maturity stage of its fruits. But fruits of that particular plant were yet to fully mature and ripe. Today, i got one ripe fruit and took the opportunity to crush it to show its seed.
Date : 05-04-2012, 10.00 a.m.
Place : Gobra (Hooghly), WB


 

 

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Cucurbitaceae week: Coccinia grandis:  15 Jun 2008
Chandagal village
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ID : Coccinia grandis (?) from Assam: Is it Coccinia grandis (L.)Voigt (Cucurbitaceae) ? Please ID for this species.

Location : Kamrup district(Rural) Assam
Time of collection : 13/09/2012


Yes it is.

 

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VALMIKI : OBSERVER OF NATURE: Attaching two image of BIMBA as mentioned by Valmiki in his Ramayan. It is a climber with white flowers and small fruits which are conspicuous when ripe (at that time, they turn crimson). In sanskrit there is a term “BIMBOSHTHA“, meaning lips like Bimba.
Common english name of this plant is Ivy Gourd. Scientifically it is known as Coccinia grandis.


 

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SYMBIOSIS:  Attaching an image on symbiosis in which a female of a Koel is eating the fruit of Coccinia grandis. This climber is commonly known as Ivy Gourd. It is known as Bimb/kachri in Hindi and Telakucha in Bangla. Male and female flowers grow on separate plants.

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Coccinia grandis (L.) Voigt from Kamrup district(Metro), Assam : Attachments (17).  3 posts by 3 authors.  

I hope attached images are Coccinia grandis (L.) Voigt collected from Kamrup district(Metro). My earlier post https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups=#!topic/indiantreepix/fRGhsrXTzhw
Date :05.05.2013
Location: Kamrup district(Metro) Assam
Family : Cucurbitaceae
Genus & species : Coccinia grandis (L.) Voigt
Habitat: Grows wild
Habit : Climber
Flower : Large, white


Beautiful photographs and great efforts by you in making excellent pictorial presentation of the vegetative and reproductive characters of the plant. It would be very useful if you can post the pictures of the fruits also (when the plant bears fruits).


 

 

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Great photographs.


 

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The flower & fruit both seen by me on 22/4/2013 at MNP, Mumbai.

Is this the edible Ivy Gourd or a wild species?


Yes … Very good photographs.


Nice pictures … Have you tried the leaf as vegetable? Keerai kuzhambu made out of leaves is one of my favorites!


No I haven’t tried the leaves. Years ago, we had it in our Nasik home garden. Must try out the fresh leaves. 


 

coccinia grandis : Attachments (2). 1 post by 1 author.
coccinia grandis, chandigarh june 2013


 

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coccinia grandis :  Attachments (2). 3 posts by 2 authors.
coccinia grandis, chandigarh

june 2013


Yes … Nice photographs.


 

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Coccinia grandis (L.) Voigt from Kamrup district, Assam :  Attachments (8). 1 post by 1 author.
Attached images are Coccinia grandis (L.) Voigt collected from Kamrup district, Assam. My earlier upload (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/rHpBYVamon4).  
Date :14.08.2013
Location: Kamrup district, Assam
Family : Cucurbitaceae
Genus & species : Coccinia grandis (L.) Voigt 
Habitat: Grows wild 
Habit : Climber
Flower : Not seen
Fruits : green and red when ripen


 

 

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Coccinia grandis, flowers and fruits: Attachments (4). 3 posts by 2 authors. 
Coccinia grandis, Chandigarh

last week (25.9.13)


 

 

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December 2013:: NS 26::Trichosanthes for id from Chakrata.. : Attachments (5). 2 posts by 2 authors. 
This cucurbit was shot from Chakrata region this August.. wanted to know the id.. I cannot fit this into any of Coccinia/Trichosanthes known to me, leaves as well flowers vary..
Please suggest…


I think Coccinia grandis only


 

 

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Coccinia grandis (L.) Voigt SN April 20 : Attachments (1). 1 post by 1 author. 
Coccinia grandis (L.) Voigt, (= C. indica L.) Fam: Cucurbitaceae, Ivy gouard, wild variety,
very bitter to taste, cultivated varieties used as vegetable. root tuber, leaves, fruit are used as diabetes medicine. leaves known to cure stomach ulcers.


 

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ID Request 201014SG : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2).
Please help identify this weed. Photo taken on 20Oct14 at Mohol, Maharashtra.


To me it is Coccinia grandis


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Hooghly-skDec01- Coccinia grandis (L.) Voigt, (cultivated) : 12 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (3)
This is sold as TARULI in local markets and used as vegetable.

Interestingly –

  1. Coccinia grandis in Voigt, Roxburgh and Prain is TELAKUCHA in Bengali; KUNDRI/KANDURI, BHIMB in Hindi (Haines); BAN-KUNDRI in Odisha
  2. Zehneria umbellata (Solena sp.) syn. Momordica umbellata is, in Bengali – RAKHAL-SASA (Voigt); KUDARI/KOODURI (Prain and Roxburgh); BAN-KUNDRI (Haines);  in Hindi – BAN-KUNDRI (Haines); AMOOT-MOOL or TURULI (Roxb.); TARALI (Prain)
These photographs were taken on 3/7/13


Bimbi in sanskrit/ ayurvedic botany books
tindora in gujarati, and in madhya pradesh hindi
nice depiction and cross section, …

my understaniding was that tela kucho that helps liver disorder is a bit different (that’s why cant go by the colloquial names..)…. fruit is pointed at the distal end i think sort of like a triangular end …. (????) vs bimbi is rounded at shoulders and one end is narrowed but still cylindrical…
real tela kucho and this bilimbi /tindora : botanically more differences exist .. … had made a key way back when


Hyan Didi, duto phal – telakucha ar eiti anektai alada dekhete. Satyi bolte ki ami bhabtam taruli hochchhe Solena, kintu amake ekjan, je chash koreche eksamay, phuler ja size dekhalo tate kakhonoi Solena hote pare na.

But couldn’t find the key by Gurcharn Sir, except – efi thread


onakeyi jigish korte hobe
ami hoyto bhul oto kotrte pari

cucurbita family week e hoyto


Didi, keu keu eke KUNDRI o bole thake.


yes that’s what i buy it as kundri  kundru or even kundro
depends where the farmer came from
north or south 24 paragana or deep delta sunderbans
don’t ask me which geographical area uses exactly which name
don’t know


Yes …, the sellers here also say that this is cultivated in 24-parganas.


As per Cucurbitaceae of India (Renner and Pandey, 2013) and paper supplied by Renner recently on our group, the correct name is Solena umbellata, and it grows only in Sri Lanka and South India, not Bengal. The plant growing in NE India is Solena heterophylla, which does not have a beak at all, nor pointed or narrowed end. This is the fruit represented in my book, and clicked by …. I think it has no comparison with Coccinia grandis in fruit or flower.  


all this is confusing me
I don’t have your book nor have i seen … pic
i see the renner paper but superficially quickly perusing it
it confused this  issue more than clarify it for me…
tell me please what vegetable is in the white dish that … has photographed here
that is the fruit/vegetable we get in south 24 paraganas and in Howrah and north 24 paraganas..
I want to know what it is that I am eating feeding my family…


this paper and this picture shows a narrowed end at one end… narrow end is still cylindrical…   this is the Bimbi or Tindora I had seen and eaten in Gujarat and parts of UP and MP… decade ago… we don’t get it in Bengal
we get what … has shown
longish cylinders (not expanded at midriff as in that picture from the paper.. and we also don’t get the white stripes, or only rarely do i see very faint whitish change in the skin. But definitely the short narrow cylinder at one end…


I think these fruits are similar to the 3rd photograph in page 70 of your book. In no way it can be a Solena which has 20 or less number of seeds, seeds being ellipsoid (Haines) or nearly globose or somewhat elongated (“Review of the genus Solena”).
Yes, we have Solena heterophylla here. Attached here entries by Haines.


Here is … post  
There are some sites that show my kind of fruits, but don’t know how authentic they are –
  1. http://www.quickiwiki.com/en/Coccinia_grandis
  2. http://singaporeplantgrower.blogspot.in/2014/03/ivy-gourd.html
Thank you

 

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was n’t there a complete flower?


No, Didi, there wasn’t any fresh flower. I will have to revisit to see if I can get one. This was a kitchen garden with gourd, brinjal, tomato and some other vegetables.


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Climber for ID :: Thane :: ARKDEC10 : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (4)
Spotted this climber in a cultivated garden in Thane, Maharashtra in December 2016.
Requested to please ID the same.


Coccinia grandis?

Ivy Gourd or Tondli.


Is it? Thank you so much … I have seen the flowers many a time but never the fruits.


 

 

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SK753 25 SEP-2017:ID : 9 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (6)
Location:  New Town Eco Park
                 Kolkata, India
Date: 10 September 2017
Elevation : 25 ft.


Should be Coccinea indica


Thank you … Coccinia indica Wight & Arn  ??

But did not find listing in the Plant List and the Catalogue of Life.


Pl. check in efi site. 


https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a—l/cl/cucurbitaceae/coccinia/coccinia-grandis


Checked but could not decide!


I think close as suggested by … Coccinea indica is a syn. of Coccinia grandis as per the link given by me. 


Thank you …! Coccinia grandis (L.) Voigt

Nepali Names : गोलकांक्री Golakaankree   / कुन्द्रि Kundree  / वन किरी Van Kiree / अखुपर्नी Akhuparni / कुन्दरु Kundaru  / तिलकोरा Tilakoraa

 

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White flower of Sri Lanka : 4 posts by 2 authors. 1 image.
I think this flower is a Convolvulaceae but I do not know how to go to the species.
Photo taken 18/02/2018 in Kawudupelella-Matale District-SriLanka.
If anyone to an idea thank you in advance! 

Could it be Coccinia grandis ?


Big thank you …!
I focused on the Convolvulaceae while the tendrils should have made me look in the Cucurbitaceae ….

 

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Re: Coccinia grandis : 5 posts by 3 authors. 1 image.
This climber is from Kavali, Andhra Pradesh
Kindly identify

in wild??? seems to be over-ripe patol.

i understand that Patol has to be planted by planting roots and have to be taken care of diligently. is that a myth propagated by farmers?
they also prevented me from going in their plantation saying women are not allowed in their plantation. women of any age, particularly childbearing age. that was in Hooghly district about five  or 6 years ago. i am baffled.
i shall appreciate it if these myths be supported/ validated or erased 


You seem to be right as per images at Coccinia grandis



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Coccinia indica;
Telakucha, Bimbi, Bimbafal, tindora;
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Coccinia grandis :: Puducherry :: 14 OCT 19 : 6 posts by 3 authors. 4 images.
Puducherry  near sea coast

Dates, various: October 14 – 15, 2019 … Altitude range: about 0 – 3 m (0 – 10 feet) asl
Coccinia grandis  (L.) Voigt  

tindora. ayurvedic texts say it reduces the brain?// buddhi


Thank you, … I eat some of its preparations !!


me too. but when i went to a post grad study in ayurvedic univ twenty or so years ago, one of the professors we liked, told us that “you gujaratis become stupid because u eat tindora”
those days i was not able to get tindoras so i did not take it personally but now in ganges delta, we get them. i am now self-conscious about eating them…


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Coccinia grandis : Cucurbitaceae : Gujarat : 02JAN20 : AK-1 : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (4)
My first post for this year.

A lot of these climber were seen by the roadside on the way from Baroda to Rajpipla.
The local driver said that these were wild, bitter to taste and not eaten. 
Are these any different from the ones we eat as a vegetable?
To me they looked the same.


As much as I know, wild ones are not bitter. I regularly see poors, particularly road and construction workers, picking it from wild vines. Occasional bitter ones, yes. 

Cucurbits can be bitter occasionally, I know from experience. Our Indian Desi Cucumber is famous for bitterness, particularly on caudal end and sometimes whole. Luffa cylindrica, Luffa acutangula, Lagenaria vulgaris, Trichosanthes dioica, Kakdi … bitter pieces are encountered time and again. In Coccinea grandis, what is grown is a selection and propagation of non-bitter variety year on year. When a farmer encounters bitter vine, he will simply uproot it. 
Dinesh sir, in Gujarat it is called Giloda and Tindoda
In Bihar, Kundari  
I left home in 85. Till then Coccinea grandis was not introduced as vegetable, at least in my area (Siwan) and in Patna and Bhagalpur. But diabetics were known to gather it from wild vines and use it as vegetable. Interestingly, wild growth was known as Tirkol तिरकोल. By 95 it was an established vegetable in markets of Bihar. I came to Gujarat in 96 and it was already there. 


Thanks a lot for the clarification and additional information.
I take it as Coccinea grandis.


 

 
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