We can easily differenciate this three species without flower by rhizome character and hairy nature.
C. aeruginosa : After its maturity the rhizome shows bluish or violet rings
C. xanthorrhiza : Rhizome colour yellow.
C. caesia : Of course the rhizome shows the bluish olour. But we can identify this species by the hairy nature. In this species the hairs are present in the upper part of leaf. This is the only one Curcuma sp. showing this character. 
 



 

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25032011 pj2 id request: It is wild turmeric, folks will go to forest during nagapanchami & they collect & use this leaves for preparing the sweet dish & wrap in it.
Date/Time-: 12/08/10   –     09:30
Location- Place, Altitude – Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,Karnataka, 380 mtrs
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-    Wild
Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-Herb
Height/Length- 20cm

As far as Curcuma spp. are considered it is difficult to identify upto species without flower. There are three species with almost with this kind of leaves. 


I guess Curcuma pseudomontana 


 

 

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Plant for ID : Nasik : 251011 : AK-1:  A plant growing at a private farm at Nasik, Maharashtra.

Picture taken on the 24 th of August,11.
Was told it is some medicinal plant.
Leaves resembled that of Curcuma sp.
No flowers or fruits seen.


Curcuma sp. of Zingiberaceae family.  


I too thought the leaves looked as that of some Curcuma.
Haven’t come across leaves with that dark line earlier.


काली हलदी or काळी हळद 


This could be Curcuma zedoaria (sham haldi?).


Oh, thats difficult to make out from the leaf. Why not Curcuma caesia?


Please collect few rhizome, cut open and see the color within. If the rhizome is blue within then this could be Curcuma aeruginosa.

Please try get the flowers (if it is C. aeruginosa the flowering season is April-May).


Blue ring is also there in C. caesia …


Without flower it is very difficult to identify the Curcuma species.
May be this plant is, C. aeruginosa, C. xanthorrhiza or C. caesia (Syn: C. zeodaria)
We can easily differenciate this three species without flower by rhizome character and hairy nature.
C. aeruginosa : After its maturity the rhizome shows bluish or violet rings
C. xanthorrhiza : Rhizome colour yellow.
C. caesia : Of course the rhizome shows the bluish olour. But we can identify this species by the hairy nature. In this species the hairs are present in the upper part of leaf. This is the only one Curcuma sp. showing this character.


 

 

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re- identification no250811sn2: Yes … it is Curcuma pseudomontana / Hill turmeric.
My friend photographed the same species in Rajgadh,( dist-Pune ), in June 2010. Attaching the pic.


Mine have also been flowering profusely since mid-July. Sending a few photographs.                   

P.S. – My previous photographs of this are available at this link

i think this one is other species, may be C. inodora


I am not sure if your plant is Curcuma pseudomontana. Was it summer? or it rained already?
Second plant as shared by … looks different to me too as stated by ….


i wish i could grow curcuma at my place.


YES YOU CAN…
…, when you get them in Indian grocery stores, try to pick the ones that look as if they would sprout… then put in a pot with the synthetic gardening soil, lightly water, cover with a net, or perforated plastic fabric, put it in a tray with pebbles and a little water to make its air humid, put the whole contraption on top of the
refrigerator… will get enough heat to create a humid environ for you Haldi… it will sprout … and get you green leaves… may not get the flowers… but green turmeric leaves to boost your spirits… it does mine !!!


Was the leaf sessile and arising from the ground?
Any information on flower color?


Fair enough. I can accept that you have your reservations, but it would be nice if you could substantiate your claim by posting some of your own photographs.

Dr.Almeida and his student Santosh Yadav have in the recent past visited my farm twice and they have had no such issues with this. Infact, it was on Dr. Almeida’s insistence that I have taken photographs 1 & 2 [reproduced here]. During any monsoon season [between June to October] I have at least a few hundreds of these flowering on my property and they look all the same to me.


…, please visit sanjay Gandhi National Park, yeoor or silonda, you can definately see the differences between the two species.. or best way is visit Blatter Herbarium…


 

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ID please of plant @ my home: I live at Nashik . Maharashtra,

Some body gave me. ryzome of plant like Ginger Last year.
Now the plant has developed. And has Flowers to plant. but flower holder shoot out right from soil.
Photos of Development are attached . Please, Give me Identification of this plant.


Of course a Curcuma but which one?  caesia?


I was thinking it was what is called kali haldi, most likely.. dont know the binomial though…
the black/dark rib may be the id


Caesia refers to blue colour (which may be dark or light or almost brinjal coloured). Its the same species and it is called kali haldi because of the black or blue ring present inside the rhizome and the dry rhizome is black and also due to blue stripe on the midrib of the leaf. But such stripes are found in many Curcuma.


Please check Curcuma zanthorrhiza Roxb. Please check whether the rhizome smells like camphor (Sabu 2006)


A simple field identification key for Curcuma with purple patches on leaves
Three species showing this purple patches on leaves. C. zanthorrhiza, C. aeruginosa and C. caesia.
1. Curcuma zanthorrhiza: Rhizome colour is yellow to deep yellow, patch on both sides along the whole length of the midrib.
2. Curcuma aeruginosa: Rhizome colour blue in centre (or blue rings in the rhizome) verging towards grey, patch on the distal half on the upper side only.
3. Curcuma caesia: Rhizome colour is blue to dark blue, but densely pubescent on the upper part of the leaf.


There are more species which have blue or purple markings on leaves. 


Yes, but this plant is collected from Nasik.
In these area very few plants showing this character.


 

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ID help please:

another lovely flower
emerging from the moist grounds of Kanha National park
photo taken on 27th June
should be born out of a bulb underground…!!!!


Curcuma sp. (Zingiberaceae)

More details of the plant are required to confirm the species ID.
Pl wait for other comments.


 

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Fwd: and these three flowers pl : 3 posts by 2 authors.

these are three flowes i got for identification in emergency…can you help me to identify these flower species…
1. One is a tree flowers shed in a pool…dendrophthoe sp..
2. curcuma sp..
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if i got the species name i will be very grateful..


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7ASP7666: Curcuma sp


 
 
 

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