Dendrobium aphyllum (Roxb.) C.E.C.Fisch. in J.S.Gamble, Fl. Madras: 1416 (1928).
Common name: Leafless Dendrobium
Dendrobium cucullatum – growing in our balcony
Place : Dombivli
Date : 18.04.2012
Yes now it is called Dendrobium aphyllum as before.
The synonym (With 3 star confidence level) of Dendrobium cucullatum is Dendrobium pierardii Roxb. ex Hook.
Another synonym is
But the confidence level is of only one star.
Everything on internet (including The Plant List) cant be right sir.
There was a huge discussion and some articles dealing with this issue after Dr. H.P.Wood changed the name of Dendrobium aphyllum to Dendrobium cucullatum. But recently there was another article by Mr. Andre Schuiteman which changed the names back based on relevant discussions.
Many still believe that cucullatum, aphyllum, pierardii are same (Checklist of Monocots, Goaverts et al. 2012). So we should wait for further more discussions.
May I know the exact references you are quoting so that I can forward it to the mentor of the specific page at the Plant List for correction.
This one sir. Irony is many of the scientists at both plant list and this link are common, but they have different opinion at different places, mainly because all dont pay attention to all of the taxa. Its a huge plant world out there after all, of which more than 50% still remains unexplored……
The Plant List is quoted in our group so frequently. In this case the statement made by both of us seems correct. If The Plant List is itself confused or in developing stage then I feel that it must not be quoted in scientific discussions.
Please give your comments.
Yes sir. But my first concern I laid few months back when Plant List came into exsistence. I imagine why there was a need for Plant List when we already had Kew’s Checklist.
Unfortunately there are huge mistakes in the Plant List. Till date I have written them nearly six letters pointing more than 500 errors and ommisions. Unfortunately many Indian taxa and their names are missing totally from the List. There is no one to own responsibility and I don’t know how this confusion will be solved. At present we have just to pick up what is more recent in taxonomic and nomenclatural status of our plants. The Plant List people have not bothered to even copy whole of IPNI in what they claim a “Complete List of World Plants”
In that case we must discourage fellow members to use The Plant List. I searched our group https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/%22the$20plant$20list%22
There are over 400 results where “The Plant List” was used as reference. Lets discuss on it and if required stop recommending the use of this reference site.
Well. Just checked the Kew List.
It seems confused like the Plant List.;(
In fact, the plant list just copied the content of Kew.
Any other source for try?
It is better to invite … for real discussion.
… is a nice person. He always replied to my mails when ever I needed. But it would be better if you select the Family expert for a species. The list of experts are given on following link.
If you write to Indian Liaison Officer then usually they dont reply 😛
I would request … to find the email ids of the expert and write to them. Mr. … id is: …
Firstly yes, India has been lagging behind w.r.t. to research and many other things. We suffer from Diabetes and then go to a Baba who gives us kheer and we eat the kheer thinking it will get rid of our diabetes.
But, in this context we cant compare ourselves with HK because HK is just less than 1000 square kilometers and India is around 3,300,000 sq.kms. But yes, then we can compare our advancement in science with China!! There are so many rules and regulations made in India by ourselves that we cant do proper research. I am a part of the project where we would be revising Bulbophyllums of Asia. Now I need 100 species from India, just small leaf piece but I cant. There are rules which stops me from doing it. There are many species which are common with China and on both sides there are lot of mistakes, because in both countries people didnt consult each other for the betterment of science.
If we keep fighting, then we cant reach a solution. I am talking about plants not politics!!
Baba ki kheer contains Vijayasar when given for Diabetes, Apamarg when patients are suffering from Bhasmak diseases, Arjun and Gorakhmundi for respiratory diseases, Koha for Heart diseases. Kheer is medium not the remedy. It is never ending list of ingredients.
Considering that The Plant List is not always reliable, I have often suggested on this forum that let us keep our eyes (and options) open. GRIN is a good Database (though largely USA plants), so is The Plant List partly, and Sorting Plant names. We follow the one which has been updated more recently (for example if GRIN has been updated after 2010 and it carries different conclusion from PLant list, we follow GRIN). Plus if there is any recent publication, we follow that. I remember myself and … had exchanges for five-six hours in the night (myself in California and … in India) and did’t leaves before the issue was resolved, and clinching document was Revision of Indian Ranunculus kindly sent by … to me, in the same way as original paper by … recently helped us to detect and resolve the folly (rather blunder) in Flora of Pakistan (both online and hard copy versions) concerning Ipomoea sindica.
Flora picture of the year 2011 UD Serendipity: We were on a Sunday afternoon drive when my friends decided to stop and have some tea… we drove into a village.. and parked under a kadam tree… while they unpacked the picnic baskets and poured tea etc I was walking around and a local gentleman came out to see if what / who had invaded his property… though there were no boundry indicators per se… we apologized, but he turned out to be friendly… and said he just wanted to talk, so over tea he told us what he grows etc and very proudly pointed at this flower on his Kadam tree… and he even told us its name… he had done some research it seems… Dendrobium pierardii…. I came home and looked it up… books and the net images show more intense color… than I got… and the binomial he told seems to hold … UNLESS … thinks otherwise….
I am very happy to have made a friend across from the Ganges and he has invited us back whenever the mood strikes us…
Serendipity, you ask? why?
because as we drove out of Calcutta we were hoping to find something totally created by nature… not planted by forest dept, highway department or a gardener, nor chopped down or debilitated by humanity…
and what is more spontaneous than a beautiful orchid flowering on a beautiful tree with connection to Krishna… the playful one…
Very nice picture of a beautiful orchid. I like the mild and pleasant color of flowers. And, as usual, well-narrated incident…Thanks … for sharing.
This plant had been very much problematic. Named and changed and renamed.
Serendipitously this month’s ‘Oikos’ desktop calender is also ‘dendrobium’ and the flowers in the picture they have utilized look very similar to yours in terms of color etc (definitely not the same picture though) although they have called it ‘dendrobium microbulbon.’
… wanted to see a close up… this is the best….
I cant imagine this to be in South of 24 Parganas. Strange. I reported it for the first time in Jharkhand. Its not there in Orissa. Not even in Bangladesh. This plant is most probably planted or an escape from gardens. It is found on middle of higher elevations in West Bengal and then northeastwards.
Few months back I happened to be speaking at one national orchid conference in Sikkim. There was someone who did predictive modelling of Cymbidium in Sikkim. And according to her model, there was chances
Thanks for sharing the cropped image of your plant. I just wanted to see the lip character in a close-up shot. Nothing more. … can throw more light on the synonyms and variations. I’ve always found his photographs outstanding. So he can also tell about the orchid photography better than me.
Yes this is Dendrobium aphyllum.
Dendrobium cuculatum-MN260211: Dendrobium cuculatum – Growing at my balcony.
Started blooming now after a prolonged winter rest.
– Where did you get this plant from?
– I bought this plant from an exhibition in Mumbai. Yes, it will look more beautiful in a hanging pot when in flower as it is a pendulous type orchid. Yes the orchid in the last picture is a Phalaenopsis.
– Thats sad but this is not a hybrid and hence its sale is illegal if it has been collected from wild.
Untitled document: Dendrobium cucullatum – growing in our balcony
Place : Dombivli
Date : 18.04.2012
Orchid for ID- 181211-PKA1: Sharing few photographs of orchid seen on a tree at “Veer Jijamata Udyan”, Mumbai
Date/Time: 17-12-2011 / 11:00AM.
This could be cultivated sp., but i am not very sure..
This could be Dendrobium cucullatum, posted by me earlier and identified by … .., kindly validate.
Yes this is Dendrobium cucullatum, now the correct name is Dendrobium aphyllum
Beautiful orchids. I have this orchid, but mine flowered during March last year.
Here is the photos of my orchid D.cucullatum (D.aphyllum)
Yes it is Dendrobium aphyllum (Roxb.) Fisher
Basionym: Limodorum aphyllum Roxb.
Synonym: Dendrobium cuculatum R.Br.
D. pierardii Roxb.
wildly distributed in some patches Eastern India..
yes its present in Victoria garden in Nursery as well as in Superintendent house in VG.
I had found it in wild in Jharkhand too…
It is “Cheptan Jadi” for the Traditional Healers of Sarguja, Chhattisgarh near to Jharkhand border. It is important ingredient of Shore based Formulations.
Orchidaceae Fortnight: Dendrobium cucullatum MN-1 : Attachments (3). 3 posts by 3 authors.
I am starting the orchid series with Dendrobium cucullatum as this was the first orchid I started growing at my home and it had very beautiful flowers. Here are the photos from my second D.cucullatum.
Now it is called Dendrobium aphyllum.
Orchidaceae fortnight :: Hybrid 4 :: SMP 25 : 1 image.
This is Dendrobium aphyllum.
Orchidaceae Fortnight : Dendrobium cucullatum : Jijamata Udyan,Mumbai : 071013 : AK-5 : Attachments (2). 6 posts by 4 authors.
Dendrobium cucullatum from Mumbai.
Identified by …
MS Oct., 2016/17 Dendrobium aphyllum : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1)
Location : Lengpui, Mizoram
Altitude : ca 400 m,
Date : 08/03/2013
Habit : Epiphytic orchid
Habitat : Both wild & cultivated
Yes so pretty and big… Dendrobium aphyllum. Thanks a lot for sharing.
SK579 19 JUN-2017:ID : 8 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (8)
Location: Soureni, Mirik, India
Date: 20 May 2017
Altitude: 4200 ft.
Dendrobium … ????
This id Dendrobium aphyllum
Yes this is Dendrobium aphyllum.
Thank you all for the ID.
Dendrobium aphyllum (Roxb.) G. E. C. Fisch
MS April, 2018/03 Orchidaceae for ID : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (1)
Location : Lengpui, Mizoram
Date : 05-03-2013
Habit : Epiphytic herb
Habitat : Cultivated or Wild
I thought I already identified this.