Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida Blatt. & McCann (Syn: Habenaria foliosa var. foetida (Blatt. & McCann) Bennet);
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Orchidaceae: Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida Blatt. & McCann : Attachments (5). 4 posts by 2 authors.

Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida Blatt. & McCann, J. Bombay Nat. Hist. Soc. 36: 16 (1932).
Synonym:
Habenaria foliosa var. foetida (Blatt. & McCann) Bennet, J. Econ. Taxon. Bot. 5: 452 (1984); Almeida, Orchidaceae in Flora of Maharastra 5: 56 – 57 (2009).
Family: Orchidaceae
Location: Jharkhand
Distribution: India
Note: This has one of the worst smell you can ever come across in such a beautiful flower.
Taxonomically this taxa is very controversial but we have a very good explaination in Orchids of Orissa by S. Misra and I prefer to stick with that.

Gibsonii is to commemorate the name in honor of Alexander Gibson (1800–1867) was a Scottish surgeon and botanist who worked in India. Foetida is for bad smell of the flower.
The other variety, H. gibsonii var. gibsonii is supposed to have good smell.

What was the explaination by S. Mishra as mentioned by u?


Dr. Misra has based the differentiation on the basis of the size of the lobes of petals.
Upper segment of petal much longer than the lower, mid segment of lip equal or slightly longer than the lateral segments
H. gibsonii var gibsonii
Upper segment of petal slightly longer than the lower, mid segment of lip much longer than the lateral segments
H. gibsonii var. foetida.


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ORCHIDACEAE Juss. Fortnight: Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida Blatt. & McCann from Jharkhand, PKS-35 :

Attachments (1). 4 posts by 3 authors.
Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida Blatt. & McCann, J. Bombay Nat. Hist. Soc. 36: 16 (1932).
Distribution: Current pic taken in Jharkhand, known to be distributed in Orissa too.
Unfortunately without understanding the species Kew treats this as synonym of Habenaria foliosa which is not true.

By mistake You put furcifera here and on the image of furcifera you put gibsonii var. foetida………………..
If I im Correct………..

Thanks for wonderful information……….


oH i AM SO SORRY… Yes i posted wrong pic. This is Habenaria furcifera. I am attaching plate of Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida now.


Gorgeous Plate



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Orchidaceae fortnight :: Habenaria gibsonii :: Kolhapur :: AK 02 : Attachments (8). 7 posts by 6 authors.

Here I’m sharing Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida  Blatt. & McCann.
from Kolhapur, MH.
July 2013

… need your confirmation here, one more time !! 🙂 🙂


Very beautiful orchid.. more beautiful capture and presentation…


Yes if it smells very bad… then it is Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida.


ya it is Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida.


…, what if a plant of this sp. smells fragrant during night and foetid during day? I have seen one.


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Attachments (1)-Richardiana-vol14-25-Habenaria foliosa.pdf.
I am very glad to inform you that Pollination in Habenaria foliosa var. foetida(Orchidaceae) paper is published in Richardiana, 2014; 15: 219-228.
Paper is attached herewith

Wonderful work & congrats, …


Truely remarkable and I am very happy that now researchers are thinking about pollination biology of plants in India which is one of the most important subject in the field of ecology and conservation.

BUT…..
I would suggest to check few things:
1. I DONT THINK THIS PLANT IS HABENARIA FOLIOSA, RATHER THIS IS HABENARIA GIBSONI VAR FOETIDA. H. GIBSONI AND H. FOLIOSA ARE TWO DISTINCT PLANTS.
2. STUDY MORE BUT IN THE WILD AS IN CAPTIVITY ITS NOT A NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
3. YOU MUST KNOW THE FLORAL MORPHOLOGY OF HABENARIA AND PRESENT IT IN THE ARTICLE SO AS TO UNDERSTAND WHERE EXACTLY STIGMA IS LOCATED. I WOULD SAY LOWER INNER PART OF STIGMA WOULD NOT BE A GOOD PLACE FOR THE POLLENS TO GET STICK TO. HABENARIA HAVE LONG STIGMATIC LOBES AND THE MOST FRONTAL PART OF MOST STICKY.
4. ITS VERY INTERESTING THAT BOTH MOTH AND BUTTERFLY VISIT THE FLOWER WHICH NEEDS MORE DETAILED STUDY INCLUDING MALE POLLINATION SUCCESS, FEMALE POLLINATION SUCCESS, FRUITING SUCCESS ETC. WRITE A NEW MANUSCRIPT BASED ON ALL THESE AND I AM SURE IT WILL GO INTO VERY HIGH PROFILE JOURNAL.
5. IF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO GC-MS THEN TRY TO ANALYSE THE FRAGRANCE AND THEN ASK SOME ENTOMOLOGIST TO CHECK THE INSECT AS WHAT THEY GET ATTRACTED TO.
Trust me, putting all these together can get your article into journals like The New Phytologist.

Please feel free to ask if you need any help. I can design your method if you wish to follow and I dont need any authorship for that. I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND you to spend one more year and publish a better article.


I feel yr reply to … needs to be read and seen by more wide audience out of eflora.

I will love to put it on facebook just for people there to know that what kind of work is going on eflora.


This work is actually not mine but … I would really be happy if his work gets more audience and more such works can be undertaken by researchers in India.
His work misses some important aspects which he and others can incorporate in their work to make their research more laudable.

I am always ready to help anyone who is working on orchids. For other groups I have less idea !



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Presenting few images of Habenaria digitata (Orchidaceae 

Habit:Herb 

Habitat:Wild,terrestrial,evergreen forest fringe. 

Sighting:Near Chikmagalur,about 1700 msl 

Date:06-08-2016,19-08-2016 and 26-08-2016


No sir, this is not digitata. Did you smell the flower?


No … I did not sniff it… and it didnt occurr to me at that point of time…. Wondering what this could be…. It was the only plant in the vicinity where it was found… Please examine and place it.


It is Habenaria gibsonii.

If smell was good then Habenaria gibsonii var. gibsonii; if the smell was bad then Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida.


Thanks … One thing I am sure, it was not offensive when I went near the plant close enough to take some macros. There was nothing in the air. Any foul smell would have been registered in my mind involuntarily…!


Yes this is again Habenaria gibsoni var. foetida as the upper segment of the two lobed lateral petal is longer than the lower segment.

And ofcourse as the name foetida suggests, it will have a foetid smell.

On the link is the true Habenaria digitata


Can it be Habenaria gibsoni var. gibsoni as per discussions at Identification??????? ?


This is Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida.


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Habenaria foliosa: Habenaria foliosa
At Kanakeshwar, Alibag

Though Kew considers Habenaria gibsonii and foliosa as conspecific, I think they are different. Even gibsonii has two varieties. They both smell very differently. have long been confused with this. But to me this plant looks very much like Habenaria gibsonii.
I am in delhi right now. Will try to dig more and find out the different between two. I assume difference lies in the flower especially in the lobes of lateral petals.
Please do try to smell it and let me know the fragrance.

Sending the photographs of foliage


Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida Blatt. & McCann as per discussions at Identification???????


Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida



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ORCHIDACEAE: Habenaria gibsoni var? by Sachin Dangat 001 – 31.08.2010: This is Habenaria gibsoni.
Please check the smell to confirm if this is gibsoni var. foetida or gibsoni var. gibsoni.


Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida Blatt. & McCann as per discussions at Identification???????


Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida.



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VOF Week: Habenaria sp.?? (Orchid) en-route Joshimath: Seen this erect herb en-route Joshimath.
Looks like some Habenaria sp.??
Family: Orchidaceae.
Date/Time: 06-08-2012 / 11:50AM
Habitat: Wild
Plant habit: Herb

Wow

Indeed a good find. This is a new record for western Himalaya !!!!!

Kew treats this as synonym of Habenaria foliosa but I truly believe that its Habenaria gibsoni a distinct species.


This sp is Habenaria foliosa A.Rich. found only in India.
Syn name
Habenaria gibsonii Hook.f; Habenaria digitata var. gibsonii (Hook.f.) C.E.C.Fisch;

Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida Blatt. & McCann;
Habenaria foliosa var. foetida (Blatt. & McCann) Bennet;

Habenaria foliosa var. gibsonii (Hook.f.) Bennet.


This synonymy is perfectly wrong.
Habenaria foliosa is a different plant
Habenaria gibsonii var gibsonii and Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida are distinct.
Habenaria digitata is obviously a separate thing.

The plant here is one of the varieties of Habenaria gibsonii. If it smells good then its Habenaria gibsonii var. gibsonii and if it smells bad then it should be Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida.
If i had to guess this plant should be Habenaria gibsonii var foetida owing to the slightly longer upper segment of the petal. Second thing is the smell which I can find out from here.

Here is the link to a perfect flower of Habenaria foliosa


All the names according to KEW. I have no much more idea about the species because I don’t see the live specimen till now. I know this species only from literature.


There are mistakes on Kew list, so dont worry.


Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida Blatt. & McCann as per discussions at Identification???????


Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida.



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Seen this erect herb en-route Joshimath.
Bot. name: Habenaria gibsoni
Family: Orchidaceae.
Date/Time: 06-08-2012 / 11:50AM
Habitat: Wild
Plant habit: Herb


Yes this is Habenaria gibsonii. If nice fragrance then H. g. var. gibsonii, if foul smell then H. g. var. foetida.


Again we missed this during our tour to VoF.


OH DEAR…. R U JOKING ME….
This must be published as it is new record for western Himalaya. It has never been reported from Himalayan elevations.
You must publish.


Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida Blatt. & McCann as per discussions at Identification???????


Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida.



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Orchidaceae fortnight :: Habenaria sp. fo ID?? – en-route Tirangi Ghat (Dhasai region):: PKA51:: :

Attachments (2). 4 posts by 3 authors.

This herb was spotted en-route Tirangi Ghat (Dhasai region).
Date/Time: 22-07-2007 / 11:30AM

These are the only pics available…


This is a Habenaria gibsonii. If the flower has good fragrance then Habenaria gibsonii var. gibsonii; if the plant has bad smell then Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida.


Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida Blatt. & McCann as per discussions at Identification???????


Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida.



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Orchidaceae fortnight :: Habenaria sp. seen en-route Panhala-Vishalgad trek route :: PKA55 : Attachments (4). 3 posts by 2 authors.

Saw this terrestrial orchid on Panhala-Vishalgad trek route. Requesting ID..
Date/Time: 16-08-2013 / 12:20PM.


Habenaria gibsonii.
Smell it to know further 🙂


Thanks … for the ID and the info. Yes, i did smell this and smell was not bad..


Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida Blatt. & McCann as per discussions at Identification???????


Very strange looking, but I think its still Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida.



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Orchidaceae fn-UP 7 :  Attachments (2). 4 posts by 3 authors.

Habenaria foliosa seen near Satara


No mam this should be Habenaria gibsonii.


Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida Blatt. & McCann as per discussions at Identification???????


Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida.



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Habenaria sp for ID? – Gambhirgad- 21July2014-PKA2 :  4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (7).

Looks like Habenaria foliosa?
Seen this terrestrial herb growing under Karvi bushes en-route Gambhirgad.
Date/Time: 19-07-2014 / 11:40AM


Your suggestions seems correct as it seems to be Habenaria foliosa


I always consider this plant as Habenaria gibsonii.

Check the smell, if it has good fragrance then Habenaria gibsonii var. gibsonii and if the smell if foul then this is Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida.

There has been lot of issue on the identification, but I have always stick to mine for this species 🙂


Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida Blatt. & McCann as per discussions at Identification???????


Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida.


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TSP31082015-1: A terrestrial orchid for ID assistance : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (4)

Submitting images of a terrestrial Orchid for identification
Date/time: 28-8-2015/6.00 pm
Location: Mullaianagiri, Chikmagalur, Karnataka about 1700 msl
Habitat: Wild, terrestrial, on humus rich shola forest floor.

Habit: Herb.


Habenaria digitata


Kindly have a re-look into the ID of this orchid with reference to my another upload TSP-OCT2016-16-453 where in the plant is identified as Habenaria gibsonii. Both the plants appear strikingly similar and were found in the same locality…! 


No this is also not digitata.

This is Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida.

The lateral petal is bifurcated and the upper segment is longer than lower hence foetida. It will also have bad smell if you tried!!


I think this may also be Habenaria gibsoni var. gibsoni as per discussions at Identification???????


This is again a bit strange looking, but still Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida.


 


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References:

Biodiversity in India, Volume 2 edited by T. Pullaiah (Description- Habenaria gibsonii var. foetida Blatt. & McCann (Syn: Habenaria foliosa var. foetida (Blatt. & McCann) Bennet)

The Plant List (Syn. of Habenaria foliosa A.Rich.)  IOSPE photos  India Biodiversity Portal 

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