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Phoenix loureiroi Kunth, Enum. Pl. 3: 257 1841. (Syn: Phoenix humilis Royle ex Becc. [Illegitimate]; Phoenix humilis var. loureiroi (Kunth) Becc.; Phoenix pusilla Lour. [Illegitimate]; Phoenix hanceana Naudin; Phoenix hanceana var. formosana Becc.; Phoenix hanceana var. philippinensis Becc.; Phoenix humilis var. hanceana (Naudin) Becc.; Phoenix pygmaea Raeusch. [Invalid]; Phoenix humilis var. pedunculata (Griff.) Becc.; Phoenix humilis var. robusta Becc.; Phoenix humilis var. typica Becc. [Invalid]; Phoenix loureiroi var. humilis S.Barrow; Phoenix ouseleyana Griff.; Phoenix pedunculata Griff.; Phoenix robusta (Becc.) Hook.f.) as per Palms of Southern Asia By Andrew Henderson (2009);
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Hindi: Thakal, khajuri; Kumaon: Konda, thankal; Kan: sunichil; Oryia: bukhor, kojiri; Tam: inji, malai-icham; Tel: kondaita; Mar: shewra, shilind;
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Stems with leaf bases, peduncle not flattened, elongate, fruits black. These features lead to P. lourierii Kunth.
Phoenix loureirii…..Plants less than 4 m tall, 20-30 cm in diam., leaves 20-55 cm long, fruit 1-2 cm long
Phoenix sylvestris…Plants 8-15 m tall, 35-50 cm in diam., 1-4 m long, fruit 2.5 cm long
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Phoenix loureiroi (common name mountain date palm[2] ) is a species of flowering plant in the palm family, indigenous to southern Asia, from the southern islands of the Philippines, India, southern Bhutan, Taiwan to Hong Kong.[3] It occurs in deciduous and evergreen forests and in clear terrain from sea level to 1,500 m altitude.[4]
The species is named after João de Loureiro; it was originally written by Kunth as “loureirii”, but this is an error to be corrected to loureiroi under the provisions of the ICBN.[3]
P. loureiroi contains solitary and clustering plants with trunks from 1-4 m high and 25 cm in width, usually covered in old leaf bases. The leaves vary to some degree but usually reach 2 m in length with leaflets wide at the base and sharply pointed apices. The leaflets emerge from the rachis at varying angles creating a stiff, plumose leaf.
The fruit is a single-seeded drupe, bluish-black when ripe, produced on erect, yellow inflorescences, usually hidden within the leaf crown. The species is noted for its variability in different habitats.[4] (From Wikipedia on 29.9.13) .
Phoenix : Attachments (7). 9 posts by 5 authors.
I have doubts in the binomial of this plant.
Is this Phoenix loureirii Kunth var. humilis (Becc.) S.C. Barrow or Phoenix humilis Royle.?
Which one is the recent & accepted name? Mature stems reach up to 0.90 metre in height and these are found on high elevations [1000 – 1500msl].
Date/Time- 07 Mar 2010 12:00pm Location- Place, Altitude, GPS– Satyamangalam RF; Eastern Ghats. ca. 1400msl Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type– wild Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb– short tree Height/Length– 0 to 1m Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size– 1 – 1.2m length; pinnately compound Inflorescence Type/ Size– panicle; 20 – 30cm length(along with rachis) Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts– 0.3-0.5cm across; tepals cream coloured Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- berry; on maturity is black Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- no fragrance The leaves are collected extensively for making broomsticks and thatches. Fruits are eaten by animals; the pith of the plant(mature) is eaten by local people. Stems with leaf bases, peduncle not flattened, elongate, fruits black. These features lead to P. lourierii Kunth. Thank you sir, any differentiating character for Phoenix humilis? I think this is wild sps. commonly seen in hills According to Eflora of Pakistan P. humilis Royle is synonym of Phoenix loureirii Kunth which should be the correct name .
It is differentiated from other common wild species P. sylvestris as follows
Phoenix loureirii…..Plants less than 4 m tall, 20-30 cm in diam., leaves 20-55 cm long, fruit 1-2 cm long
Phoenix sylvestris…Plants 8-15 m tall, 35-50 cm in diam., 1-4 m long, fruit 2.5 cm long The nomenclature of Phoenix sylvestris is a difficult nut for me over 2 years. This species was originally proposed by Linneanus as Elate sylvestris and later Roxburgh transferred this to Phoenix viz. P. sylvestris. The type was based on Rheede’s Kattu eethanl in his Hortus Malabaricus. But Roxburgh described another plant instead in his Flora Indica. This made the problem so complecated. Now we are going to raise an epitype for the species and I do hope we can solve the mystery shortly. Until then we can silent about this issue. Could any of you kindly send me the Kannada name for this Phoenix loureirii Kunth var. humilis (Becc.) S.C. Barrow species? Hindi: Thakal, khajuri; Kumaon: Konda, thankal; Kan: sunichil; Oryia: bukhor, kojiri; Tam: inji, malai-icham; Tel: kondaita; Mar: shewra, shilind. Thank you for the information sir. .
Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Fortnight: Arecaceae-Phoenix humilis from Himachal -GSG (AUG10) : 3 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (2).
Phoenix humilis Royle from Himachal. [From along Paonta Sahib-Nahan road: 900 m asl: Sal forest with miscellaneous species] .
Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Fortnight :: Arecaceae : Phoenix loureirii :: MK03 : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (4). Family: Arecaceae
Habitat: hillslopes at altitudinal range of 800 – 1200 m asl
Height of this plant may go up to a metre tall.
Tamil name: சீமார், சீமார் பில்லு
Uses: mature fronds harvested, tied to make broomsticks; widely utilised in TN
Is my ID right? Is there any recent nomenclatural change? Phoenix loureirii .
Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Fortnight :: Arecaceae :: Phoenix loureirii var. humilis from Almora, Uttarakhand :: ARKAUG-27 : 7 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (2).
Attached are pictures of Phoenix loureirii var. humilis captured at Almora, Uttarakhand in November 2012.
Requested to please validate the ID. Phoenix loureiroi (Syn: Phoenix loureiroi var. humilis S.Barrow) Could be Phoenix loureiroi Thanks … for the correct ID…. Is it a introduced species to India? I have seen a few in BD as an ornamental use .
Arecaceae, Araceae, Zingiberaceae Month Aug 2014: Phoenix humilis from Uttarakhand_DSR_37 : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3). Thanks … for these pics.. .
AAZ Fortnight :: Arecaceae :: SMP34 :: wild palm from Kudremukh Karnataka. Phoenix? : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (2). I hope generic level id is right.. Phoenix loureiroi .
identification no 17/09/2014sn1 : 12 posts by 7 authors. Attachments (6).
Kindly help in identification of this Palm Tree.
Date/time:march14
location:ambyvalley rd.,lonavala,pune
habitat:wild
plant habit:tree
height:about 6-7 ft.upto the tip
other info:flowers attract a lot of honeybees My guess is Phoenix robusta may be canary island palm, not sure though
would like to see it in its entirety, if you had a chance to take it all in. This is the same Flickr, i posted earlier identified as Chamerops humilis. Of course it is not cultivated. I have seen Phoenix robusta in the location you mentioned. In this area they are often very short trees, sometimes only a few feet. Your posted pictures resemble mine. It is often difficult to get an image of an entire tree. Let me get this straight. Does it mean P.robusta= P. loureiroi var. pedunculata= P. loureirii var. humilis= P. humilis Royle ex Baker.Hook I spent a very long time trying to sort out these similar species of Phoenix even after seeing plants with flowers and fruits for several years! efi page on Phoenix loureiroi (Syn: Phoenix humilis Royle ex Becc. [Illegitimate]; Phoenix humilis var. loureiroi (Kunth) Becc.; Phoenix pusilla Lour. [Illegitimate]; Phoenix hanceana Naudin; Phoenix hanceana var. formosana Becc.; Phoenix hanceana var. philippinensis Becc.; Phoenix humilis var. hanceana (Naudin) Becc.; Phoenix pygmaea Raeusch. [Invalid]; Phoenix humilis var. pedunculata (Griff.) Becc.; Phoenix humilis var. robusta Becc.; Phoenix humilis var. typica Becc. [Invalid]; Phoenix loureiroi var. humilis S.Barrow; Phoenix ouseleyana Griff.; Phoenix pedunculata Griff.; Phoenix robusta (Becc.) Hook.f.) as per Palms of Southern Asia By Andrew Henderson (2009); Do not occur in Bangladesh Can anybody please tell me which Phoenix species (one or many) have leaflets with copper/rust (or anything other than green) colored tips? Phoenix are difficult to identify if the locality is unknown. In cultivation they hybridize. Is this a wild plant? Yes it is wild plant
ID-TSP-18NOV2015-1: Phoenix loureiroi var.pedunculata (Arecaceae) for validation. : 4 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (8)
Kindly examine and validate. Phoenix loureiroi var. pedunculata (Arecaceae) Ref: http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.php?id=464&cat=1 Habit: A dwarf palm Habitat: Amidst grass at high altitude. Sighting: Bababudangiri and Devaramane ,Chikmagalur,Karnataka,about 1500 msl. Date: 11-02-2015 and 06-06-2015 Stem upto 0.2 m, Peduncle of pistillate spadix over 1 m long, Staminate spadix upto 40 cm Yes, looks fine . Phoenix sp?: 2 images. Found this plant in Talakona forest on the way to falls.
Feb. Phoenix loureiroi    identification no 051011sn3: Repeating my request.It has been identified as Phoenix (Arecaceae). Which species is it? I think it is short species, unlike other palm trees, though from ground to tip of leaves must be 8-9 ft.
date/time:July/aug11
location:mulshi,pune
habitat:wild
plant habit:tree
height:8-9 ft.
This could be Chamaerops humilis L. of Arecaceae family (Syn: Phoenix humilis (L.) Cav.) If this is Chamaerops humilis then this cannot be Phoenix loureiroi identified earlier as it is the same plant- efi thread
SK 3270 28 December 2021: 3 very high res. images. Location: Surkhet, West Nepal
Altitude: 382 m.
Date: 28 August 2021
Habit : Wild Phoenix loureiroi Kunth ?? What are the species listed from your area? Yes, Phoenix loureiroi Kunth is possible as per keys and details in Flora of Pakistan. Yes it’s loureiroi …, We too have occasionally in Andhra Pradesh on top hills,
Kemmangundi Karnataka
Date: 13 NOV 2016 … Altitude: ~ 1488 – 1513 m (4882 – 4962 ft) asl
Chamaerops humilis L. … (family: Arecaceae ~ Palmae) Kindly look into the efi page on Phoenix loureiroi. Is Chamaerops humilis distinct from Phoenix loureiroi…???
I think there is some confusion in nomenclature…..!?
1.Chamaerops humilis syn Phoenix humilis as per the Plant List
2.Phoenix loureiroi syn Phoenix humilis as per the efi page on Phoenix loureiroi
Ref: https://sites.google.com/
3.Also please examine this link
I think details at EFI site should be correct as being taken from references give at the bottom. I think there is also some discussion in this matter on the page. Pl check as I am saying this from my memory. Thank you very much … for pointing to the confusion in Phoenix names. . Plant for ID: 29-3-2023: Kerala: 16 high res. images. Phoenix loureiroi Kunth ! Characters are matching with Phoenix sylvestris. Appears more close to images at
https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/20/phoenix-loureirii/ The following also does not have distribution in the area as per Flora of Peninsular India:
https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/20/phoenix-sylvestris/ .
Location: Dhan Khola, Dang,, West Nepal
Date: 30 May 2023
Elevation 400m.
Habit : Wild Nepali Names : खजुर Khajur / थाकल Thaakal .
      Phoenix acaulis Roxb.: 6 very high res. images. Location: Nuwakot, Nepal
Date: 13 June 2024
Altitude: 815m.
Habitat : Wild
Who has identified it ?
Is the id correct?
Myself. My guess going through many images! Phoenix loureiroi . References: GRIN The Plant List 1 (Phoenix loureiroi Kunth) The Plant List 2 (Phoenix loureiroi var. loureiroi) The Plant List 3 (Phoenix loureiroi var. pedunculata (Griff.) Govaerts) Flora of China India Biodiversity Portal (Phoenix loureiroi Kunth) Wikipedia |
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