Cynara cardunculus subsp. flavescens Wiklund (Images by Gurcharan Singh & Aarti S Khale (Id by Gurcharan Singh) (Inserted by J.M.Garg) (For more images & complete details, click on the links))

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Common names: Artichoke thistle, cardoon, cardone, cardoni, artichoke
 
Artichoke thistle is a noxious weed, sometimes cultivated as an ornamental is differentiated by involucre bracts especially the middle ines with acuminate spine tipped apex and tip with distinct yellow margin.
 
Leaf rachis and stems are edible whereas in Globe artichoke flesh involucre bracts are used as food. 


Cynara cardunculus subsp. cardunculus from Kashmir:  Cynara cardunculus L., Sp. Pl. 827, 1753 subsp. cardunculus Syn: Carduus cardunculus (L.) Baill.; Cynara sylvestris Lam.; Cynara scolymus L.

Common names: Artichoke thistle, cardoon, cardone, cardoni, artichoke
A tall plant often reaching 2 m in height with fleshy tap root; leaves once to twice pinnately lobed or almost compound, with oblong to lanceolate, entire or toothed lobes, with or without spiny tips, usually white-tomentose; heads  up to 15 cm across, bluish-purple; involucre bracts usually spine tipped or without spine (globe artichoke); style exserted.

Leaf rachis and stems are edible whereas in Globe artichoke flesh involucre bracts are used as food.
Photographed from Hazuribagh garden (now Iqbal Garden) in Srinagar, Kashmir
IT MUST BE MENTIONED THAT PLANT DISPLAYED AT FOI IS NOT CARDOON AT ALL. THE HEADS ARE REDDISH< MUCH SMALLER AND BRACTS DIFFERENT> IT MAY BE A SPECIES OF CARDUUS THISTLE.

Cynara cardunculus L. subsp. flavescens Wiklund as per another thread by …


Yes …


Plant for ID : 021011 : AK-1: A garden plant, taken at one of the gardens at Pahalgam, Kashmir…..which
is about 2740 metres above sea level.
There were no flowers when the picture was taken on 6th Sept,11.


Artichoke …. an edible flower bud… my favorite vegetable… need some finesse n cooking, sauce making and eating… but yummy… and very rich in potassium…
Can horticulturists in india develop it for vegtable production, since it can grow in Kashmir?


Is this the same identified by you as Cynara cardunculus from Pahalgam?
This picture was taken at Nuwara Eliya, Sri Lanka in Nov,2010.


Yes … 


Cynara cardunculus L. subsp. flavescens Wiklund as per another thread by …


Cynara cardunculus L., Sp. Pl. 827, 1753 subsp. cardunculus
Syn: Carduus cardunculus (L.) Baill.; Cynara sylvestris Lam.; Cynara scolymus L.
Common names: Artichoke thistle, cardoon, cardone, cardoni, artichoke
A tall plant often reaching 2 m in height with fleshy tap root; leaves once to twice pinnately lobed or almost compound, with oblong to lanceolate, entire or toothed lobes, with or without spiny tips, usually white-tomentose; heads up to 15 cm across, bluish-purple; involucre bracts usually spine tipped or without spine (globe artichoke); style exserted.
Leaf rachis and stems are edible whereas in Globe artichoke flesh involucre bracts are used as food.
Photographed from Hazuribagh garden (now Iqbal Garden) in Srinagar, Kashmir


Cynara cardunculus L. subsp. flavescens Wiklund as per another thread by …


Yes … C. cardunculus subsp. flavescens


 

 

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Cynara cardunculus subsp. flavescens from Kashmir-GSMAY2016/03 : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (4). 
Cynara cardunculus L. subsp. flavescens Wiklund,
Artichoke thistle is a noxious weed, sometimes cultivated as an ornamental is differentiated by involucre bracts especially the middle ines with acuminate spine tipped apex and tip with distinct yellow margin.
Photographed from Iqbal Garden (Hazuribagh), Srinagar Kashmir  


nice but the whole question of id esp when the buds have flowered out and then to distinguish between the noxious weed and the globe artichoke … i.e. edible cynara is a murky business

Am not sure how to differentiate these. any help?


Artichoke would have most or at least middle involucre obtuse or rounded at apex, if tip of any bracts is projected spine would be very slender and lacking yellow tip which differentiates subsp. flavescens.


 

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