Sida mysorensis Wight & Arn., Prodr. Fl. Ind. Orient. 1: 59 59 1834. (Syn: Sida glutinosa Roxb.; Sida urticifolia Wight & Arn.; Sida wightiana D. Dietr.);
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SEE-duh — in Greek, a type of water lily; although now a name for a type of mallow
my-sor-EN-sis — of or from Mysore, India
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commonly known as: Mysore fanpetals, Mysore sida
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Native of: India
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China (Guangdong, Guangxi, Yunnan), Taiwan, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Philipines, Vietnam, Java, peninsular Malaysia (Perak, Pahang), Myanmar [Burma], India (Bihar, West Bengal, Meghalaya, Orissa, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan, Gujarat, Maharashtra, Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu, Kerala), Sri Lanka, Bhutan, Philippines as per Catalogue of Life;
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As per efi thread:
This one (Sida mysorensis ) has branched inflorescence,
whereas, flowers in S. cordata are solitary.
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Images by Vijayasankar Raman (Inserted by Bhagyashri Ranade)

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Sida mysorensis: Sida mysorensis (= S. glutinosa Roxb, non Cav.) from Bangalore (images 1 & 2) and Tiruvannamalai (image # 3).
It differs from S. cordata by its erect habit with woody branches and glandular hairs. Number of flowers vary from 1-5 per axil.


Many thanks …. Now that you have shown this plant, it become clear to me that the one at
efi thread by me during Malvaceae week is surely not S. mysorensis (which you pointed out – on basis of branched inflorescence)
… Not aware of varieties OR sub-species of S. cordata OR some other similar species of Sida, which may have this feature of branched inflorescence.


I agree with you …, our plants look different from each other.
Thanks for bringing this discussion again, and sorry for the confusion. On closer look, your plant has flowers also on “leafy, racemelike, axillary shoots”, which I mistook for a branched inflorescence. So it is perhaps Sida cordata as earlier identified by you. My plant seems to be a form of S. mysorensis with solitary flowers. I have seen also the other form with ‘branched’ inflorescence, but both the plants have glandular hairs. Please do the needful, and let us hear from others, too.


… does anyone have Sida mysorensis ?:  Want to see Sida mysorensis Wight & Arn.
Synonyms: Sida glutinosa Roxb.; Sida urticifolia Wight & Arn. • Sida wightiana D. Dietr.
If any one has it to show please post it in a new post.

it is resolved; many thanks to …, he has shared pictures of Sida mysorensis in a separate post at.



 

identification of the sida species requested : Attachments (1). 6 posts by 3 authors.

This sida plant is erect, the leaves resemble Sida cordata, but the pedicel is very short (<5mm) the stipules are also different from sida cordata;
is it sida spinosa, but the leaf has 5 basal nerves, base cordate with deep sinus. I am unable to match with any available species in Flora of A.P or Gamble. I require your help in the
identification

Sidaso far in efi


Seems to be Sida glutinosa?


Thanks, …, I think as per Sida page & Flora of Guntur District, Andhra Pradesh, India,
Sida mysorensis should be correct species instead of Sida glutinosa.

Pl. correct me if I have understood the things wrong.


Thank you …, yes it may be Sida mysorensis; you can see the image taken by me of sida glutinosa in; both are different, S.glutinosa have glutinose hairs, upper leaves oblong,  flowers 4-5 and pedicellate in axils/terminal.


Thanks, … As per Plant List there are two Sida glutinosa:
Sidaglutinosa Cav. is a synonym of Sidaglabra Mill. &
Sida glutinosa Roxb. is a synonym of Sidamysorensis Wight & Arn.



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Abutilon sp. for ID : 9 posts by 6 authors. Attachments (9).

Is this the common AbutilonAbutilon indicum?
Bangalore 15th June


This looks more like a species of Sida to me [possibly S.mysorensis].


Can be Abutilon hirsutum


Friends may be Abutilon indicum


Yes, It is Sida only, I am unable to say exactly the species.


A hope Sida mysorensis


Yes, i also think it is sida species because the Abutilon indicum have large yellow or orange flowers


Thank you all for finalising id as Sida mysorensis.



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Wild Plant For ID : Bangalore : 23NOV16 : AK-3 : 8 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (5)

Wild plant seen in October.

Malvaceae?

Check comparative images of sida species in EFI site


Is it Sida cordifolia?


Thanks for the suggested id. Hope to get it validated.


Thanks, …, To me it appears close to images at Sida mysorensis as per comparative images at Sida

Thanks … Hope to get it validated.

As I can remember, the buds were very hairy, which can be seen in the pics.


Yes, It is Sida mysorensis


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3 images.

Plant growing wild with tiny yellow flowers.


Sida cordata ??


Ma’am, what about habit, seems its erect one, if it’s, could be Sida mysorensis, or prostrate or straggling one, … is correct,


Plants were mostly erect, as far as I can recollect.

Let me check if I have more pictures.


Adding one more picture.
Hope this helps.

1 image


Sure ma’am, You can go through mysorensis,


Yes, I thought so too since the stalks are not long.



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in Pune Oct’ 2009; Malvaceae member for ID PLANT 152 – indiantreepix | Google Groups


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Malvaceae Fortnight:: For id from Chakrata: NS July 09/09 : 3 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (4)
This is a Sida sp., recorded from Chakrata area, stems erect, leaves cordate..

Please suggest proper id for this..


Sir Sida cordata


Nice pictures! It looks like Sida cordata to me, too.


I think it will be Sida mysorensis Wight & Arn. as per discussions at efi thread., as this one has branched inflorescence, whereas, flowers in S. cordata are solitary.


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5 images.
Please identify the weed plant.
Name of plant:
Location:  near Reserve Forest, Chathamattom, Ernakulam District, Kerala PIN:686671
Date:.               05.12.2020, 12.45pm
Altitude:           1700fsl
Habitat:            wild moisture
Plant habit:      erect branches weak stem annual
Height:             03 feet
Leaves:            opposite, hairy, oval long, apex, side jaws
Flower:             diameter:09mm, non fragrant

Colour of flowers are orange.


Sida mysorensis



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Flora of Chakrata: Sida cordata from Chakrata Kalsi roadSida cordata from Chakrata Kalsi road


I think it will be Sida mysorensis Wight & Arn. as per discussions at efi thread., as this one has branched inflorescence, whereas, flowers in S. cordata are solitary.



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abutilon indicum: been seeing it in flower for the last couple of weeks, in alibaug
the flowers are small, about 12 mm or so


Yes it is not Abutilon
The second photograph I agree with …, belongs to S. cordifolia, but interesting the first photograph appears different. Longer slender pedicels and slender stems, smaller flowers suggest S. cordata (syn: S.
veronicifolia
) for the first photograph.


i have added another photograph of the same plant as 755
maybe it will help


Just checked your photographs. This is also Sida cordata.

Erect herb, leaves cordate and hairy (stem too), pedicel is shorter than peduncle: Sida cordifolia
Trailing herb, leaves faintly hairy or even sometimes glabrous pedicel is as long as or longer than peduncle: Sida cordata  My guess, based on the pedicel length, is that this plant is S. cordifolia of Malvaceae family

The first photograph (DSCN0755a.jpg) and photograph uploaded subsequently (DSCN0757a.jpg) belong to Sida cordata (syn: S. veronicifolia) Second photograph (*DSCN0769aa.jpg) Sida cordifolia


To me all three pictures look like Sida cordata, as suggested by ….
Pl see this link for S. cordifolia
Wikipedia image


To me leaf shape, colour, and very short pedicel of second photograph can’t be ignored. The other two have slender long pedicel of S. cordata.


FOR NON BOTANISTS:
INCLUDING MYSELF:
Peduncle has different meaning(s) in medicine…
so had to do some reading:

the nuances are different in Botany:

this is what I learnt today: RE-LEARNT: since after 1962/3… ha ha..

A Pedicle, Pedicel, and Peduncle are the same thing : A stalk…
and leaf stalk is different named….

A pedicle is what we use mostly in  medicine: stalk or a long base of
a tumor, benign or malignant….
A leaf stalk is called : A  petiole

A stalk of a flower cluster is called:  Peduncle

A stalk of a single flower (when it grows independently, not part of a
cluster) is called : Peduncle

A stalk of an individual flower in a cluster or an inflorescence is
called :
Pedicel
A stalk of a moss capsule is also called:  Pedicel:
Source: based this on  a few dictionaries …

An extensively illustrated Taxonomic dictionary for botany would be
very handy…

don’t have one in my library.. could you please suggest one?


Just to add to useful information by …
Peduncle and scape are two terms which we use for the stalk of the inflorescence having no leaves on it.
When this arises from aerial branches, we call it peduncle (Ixora, Cassia, Acacia, etc.), situation is tricky in some plants with solitary flowers like say Hibiscus, where lower portion of stalk is peduncle, upper pedicel, and a  joint between the two point of separation: position often an important taxonomic character.
When this stalk arises from basal rosette of leaves, like in onion (and other Allium sp.), some Crinum species, we call it scape (and not peduncle) and inflorescence scapigerous .

Would suggest you buy a basic textbook of Botany used in colleges.  A.C.Dutta’s ‘A Class Book of Botany’ would do for starters.


Prof. … would be the right person to suggest this – possibly one of the many books authoured by him.
The book I have suggeste is available in Bombay. Another book [with
difficulty] is ‘A Textbook of Systemic Botany’ by Prof. R.N.Sutaria.


No two opinions. We all have graduated reading A. C. Dutta


Thanks for adding the info… esp about the pedicel/pedical of Hibiscus…
that’s why the flower breaks off so easily the day after blooming and often falls off on its own leaving behind a segment of the stalk..
next time it happens I’ll look at it with a little more knowing eyes.


I think it will be Sida mysorensis Wight & Arn. as per discussions at efi thread., as this one has branched inflorescence, whereas, flowers in S. cordata are solitary.




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Sida cordata at Pachmarhi :: 19 SEP 13 :: DV :  4 images. 1 post by 1 author.
Pachmarhi … about 3600 feet ft asl
Date / Time: 19 SEP 13 at 10:49 AM … Altitude: about 3132 ft asl
Sida cordata (Burm.f.) Borss. … (family: Malvaceae)

Bee Falls – very popular tourist place. Large evergreen patch of forest around this water falls – a very good place for exploring flora. This source is the main supply of water to Pachmarhi town.


I think it will be Sida mysorensis Wight & Arn. as per discussions at efi thread., as this one has branched inflorescence, whereas, flowers in S. cordata are solitary.



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Fwd: Images for identification and validation : Attachments (2). 3 posts by 3 authors.

attaching images of Sida ovata for identification and validation, plz confirm,


efi page on Sida ovata


Inflorescence appears to be branched. So may be Sida mysorensis Wight & Arn.



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Saw these Sida in the Aarey forest in Mumbai in November 2016. I suspect them to be more than 1 species.
Is it possible to ID them?


Appears to be some other species/ plant.


Sida mysorensis


Yes, I agree with you as per Sida mysorensis Wight & Arn.



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Malvaceae week :: Sida mysorensis : Sida mysorensis  Wight & Arn.  
SEE-duh — in Greek, a type of water lily; although now a name for a type of mallow
my-sor-EN-sis — of or from Mysore, India
[image: Sida mysorensis Wight & Arn.]<>
Nov 23, 2008 at Yeoor Hills (part of Sanjay Gandhi National Park)
commonly known as: Mysore fanpetals, Mysore sida
Native of: India
   – [image: Mysore fanpetals]<>…
Nov 23, 2008 at Yeoor Hills (part of Sanjay Gandhi National Park)
– [image: Mysore sida]
Nov 23, 2008 at Yeoor Hills (part of Sanjay Gandhi National Park)
– … more views:

… this plant had earlier got mixed up with Sida cordata at efi thread.
Many thanks to .. for having pointed it out.

At eflora of China, a small note on the page of Sida mysorensis:
Sida mysorensis is often confused with the closely related species S. javensis Cavanilles and S. cordata (N. L. Burman) Borssum Waalkes but can usually be distinguished by the presence of glandular hairs and the erect habit.
This notable “erect habit” of S. mysorensis made me go look up for the habit of S. cordata which turns out to be procumbent (or rarely ascending up to 1 m)
This difference is quite worthy other than clear key clarified by …  of branched inflorescence for S. mysorensis, whereas, flowers in S. cordata are solitary.

After reading in FBI the first question (besides procumbent and erect habit) in my mind was same, how to distinguish the two. The two look so similar. Thanks for providing clarification which .. gave..


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Malvaceae for ID : Nasik : 23APR21 : AK-18: 3 images.
Seen growing wild.
Sida Species?


Though not sure please check this link  for S.mysorensis :
http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=5681&cat=7


I support


The id looks to be correct.


 


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