Saxifraga parnassifolia D. Don, Trans. Linn. Soc. London 13(2): 405-406 405 1821. (Syn: Saxifraga diversifolia var. parnassifolia (D. Don) Ser.; Saxifraga parnassifolia var. obscuricallosa J.T. Pan);
. As per efi thread: Basal leaves with truncate-cuneate base; style absent or reduced, different shape of radical and cauline leaves ……. S. diversifolia. Basal leaves with cordate base; style present, conspicuous ….. S. parnassifolia . As per efi thread: 1. The bottom leaves on S. parnassifolia have long hairy stalks (3-4 cm, photo 7967), while those on S. moorcroftiana have barely a tiny winged stalk that is easy to miss.
2. The petals of S. moorcroftiana have red markings and are rounder than those of S. parnassifolia.
3. The sepals on S. moorcroftiana flowers are ovate, fringed with red glands while those on S. parnassifolia are more lanceolate and have translucent white glands.
. Flora of Chakrata: Saxifraga sp from Budher Caves Road Chakrata: 5 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (14) Saxifraga sp from Budher Caves Road Chakrata This is Saxifraga parnassifolia. In addition to the differences between this and S.moorcroftiana given in ‘Flowers of the Himalaya’, the assorted images of both species posted on this site and my own images of S.moorcroftiana have shown clear differences. S.parnassifolia has more rounded /circular petals with 2 noticeable ‘appendages’ at the base of petals. S.moorcroftiana does not have the appendages but typically markings on the interior of the petals which are narrower, a markedly different shape. VOF Week: Saxifraga parnassifolia at VOF: Yes … We also got this one from Chakrata. This is Saxifraga parnassifolia. In addition to the differences between this and S.moorcroftiana given in ‘Flowers of the Himalaya’, the assorted images of both species posted on this site and my own images of S.moorcroftiana have shown clear differences. S.parnassifolia has more rounded /circular petals with 2 noticeable ‘appendages’ at the base of petals. S.moorcroftiana does not have the appendages but typically markings on the interior of the petals which are narrower, a markedly different shape.
I think Yes This was also shot from Chakata This is Saxifraga parnassifolia. In addition to the differences between this and S.moorcroftiana given in ‘Flowers of the Himalaya’, the assorted images of both species posted on this site and my own images of S.moorcroftiana have shown clear differences. S.parnassifolia has more rounded /circular petals with 2 noticeable ‘appendages’ at the base of petals. S.moorcroftiana does not have the appendages but typically markings on the interior of the petals which are narrower, a markedly different shape. VoF Week : Saxifraga brachypoda: I think this could be Saxifraga parnassifolia. yes …, Makes sense….I am sorry for wrongly posting it. Nothing like S.brachypoda. This is Saxifraga parnassifolia. In addition to the differences between this and S.moorcroftiana given in ‘Flowers of the Himalaya’, the assorted images of both species posted on this site and my own images of S.moorcroftiana have shown clear differences. S.parnassifolia has more rounded /circular petals with 2 noticeable ‘appendages’ at the base of petals. S.moorcroftiana does not have the appendages but typically markings on the interior of the petals which are narrower, a markedly different shape.
Both species are recorded for this region. Other than that, I think, given that not only has there been confusion between the two species historically, that has continued to this day, as shown by the postings on this site, quoting what the floras and references have to say is pointless. I feel I have built up the better understanding – thanks to viewing plants in the wild and the other images seen thanks to eFI. This is superior to pressed specimens alone in herbaria….. Saxifraga parnassifolia ABJUL01/12 : 5 posts by 3 authors. 3 images.
While looking for an old photograph in my backup hard disk, I came across a few plants I had photographed in 2014 and never edited them. I will share them in separate emails for your advice. This one, I think, is the Himalayan Saxifrage. I will look out for it this year for better photographs. Please advise.
Saxifraga parnassifolia—Himalayan Saxifrage
Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
1900m
31 August, 2014. I think yes. Ignore/crop twig on the right which may cause confusion. Better photos at efi thread. You are right … These are again from 2014 when I did not know better. I hope to find these again to photograph them properly this time. Could the leaves on the right be of Oplismenus compositus? You are correct, this is Saxifraga parnassifolia. So you have photographed this and S.moorcroftiana (from a higher elevation) in HP. In addition to the differences between this and S.moorcroftiana given in ‘Flowers of the Himalaya’, the assorted images of both species posted on this site and my own images of S.moorcroftiana have shown clear differences. S.parnassifolia has more rounded /circular petals with 2 noticeable ‘appendages’ at the base of petals. S.moorcroftiana does not have the appendages but typically markings on the interior of the petals which are narrower, a markedly different shape.
Both species are recorded for this region. Other than that, I think, given that not only has there been confusion between the two species historically, that has continued to this day, as shown by the postings on this site, quoting what the floras and references have to say is pointless. I feel I have built up the better understanding – thanks to viewing plants in the wild and the other images seen thanks to eFI. This is superior to pressed specimens alone in herbaria…..
I think in light of your images and my better understanding of the differences between the two species, ALL previous records of both species need reviewing in herbaria and their distribution, altitudinally and geographically needs reviewing.
A clear lesson that one needs to check. I could have assumed all the postings for S.parnassifolia were correct because the first ones were (and the last, this one) but others turned out to be S.moorcroftiana.
The images posted by yourself and others on eFI have been informative to complement characteristics observed on herbarium specimens – which is the future, to combine digital photos, living specimens in cultivation of known provenance and traditional pressed specimens. Saxifraga parnassifolia D.Don : 7 posts by 1 author. 7 images- 6 to 7 mb each.
Location: Kathmandu Valley
Date: October 2020
Elevation: 2700m.
Habitat : Wild
. Saxifraga parnassifolia D.Don
Similar to S. moorcroftiana (basal leaves elliptic to lanceolate, attenuate at base, apex acute) but easily separated by basal leaves being broadly ovate, subcordate with obtuse apex.
Photographed from near Budher Caves Chakrata, 18-9-2011.
Yellow flowers for ID :: Govindghat-Ghangria, Uttarakhand :: Aug 2018 :: ARKSEP-06 : 18 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (8)
Requested to please ID these yellow flowers seen on the way from Govindghat to Ghangria in August 2018. They were clicked at various places on the way.
On going through the Saxifragaceae pages in efi, this seems to be Saxifraga parnassifolia. Looks somewhat different at first glance as per
I guess it is matching.
I guess you mean it is matching with S. parnassifolia.
Yes, I mean so.
I think more closer to images and details at Saxifraga moorcroftiana rather than those at Saxifraga parnassifolia
Saxifraga diversifolia to me.
Thanks … Is S. diversifolia a syn. of S. moorcroftiana? No, … I think there are two different species here.
First four images are of Saxifraga parnassifolia
Last four images may be of Saxifraga diversifolia, as ided by … as per the following:
Thanks …, yes, on closer examination, there seem to be 2 sets, the first 4 images have been taken enroute Ghangaria from Gobindghat. The second set was taken at Hemkund.
On further consideration, the last three images are of Saxifraga moorcroftiana, as per images and details herein. The last 4 images have been taken enroute Hemkund and have been taken within minutes (and not seconds) of each other and hence, may or may not belong to the same population. I do not see any red glands in 1st 3 images. Some misunderstanding here. The 1st 4 images are different than the last 4.
The last 4 pics have some kind of red glands on the fringes.
Attached is a copy of what I meant.
In summary, I meant
The first 4 agree with the S. parnassifloia pics on efi, the last 4 S. moorcroftiana.
…, are you of the same understanding? Yes . Saxifraga parnassifolia D.Don: 7 very high res. images. Location: Jumla, Nepal
Altitude: 3118m.
Date: 18 August 2021
Habit : Wild . What is Saxifraga diversifolia ?:
However, it looks contradictory in Plant illustrations one and two of Saxifraga diversifolia.
Here is the description of Saxifraga diversifolia from IBIS Flora from Flora of British India (could not find it for Saxifraga parnassifolia):
Wall. in Sternb. Saxifrag. Suppl, t. 22 ; flowers corymbose rarely 3-2, sepals ovate-oblong small, cauline leaves sessile often cordate and amplexicaul, radical leaves long-petioled often large. Wall. Cat. 452 ; DC. Prodr. iv. 44 ; Hook. Lond. Journ. Bot. iv. t. 21 ; H. f. & T. in Journ. Linn. Soc. ii. 70 ; Engler Monog. Saxifrag. 125. S. parnassifolia, Wall. Cat. 451, partly ; Don in Trans. Linn. Soc. xiii. 405 ; DC. Prodr. iv. 25 ; Sternb. Saxifrag. Suppl, t. 25. S. Moorcroftiana, Wall. Cat. 453 ; Sternb. Saxifrag. Suppl, t. 24. S. lysimachoides, Klotzsch in. Reis. Pr. Waldem. Bot. t. 42. Here is what Flora of China says: Forests, forest margins, scrub, alpine meadows, rock crevices; 2700-4300 m. W Sichuan, SE Xizang, N Yunnan [Bhutan, Kashmir, Myanmar, Nepal, Sikkim]. Saxifraga diversifolia is extremely polymorphic. Many of the variants have been published as species, which are accepted as such in the present account because a very narrow species concept has been adopted in classifying the variation. However, many botanists would prefer to see rather more “lumping,” and comments relating to how this might be done are made in relevant places.
Abies forest margins, slopes; 2700-4000 m. S Xizang (Nyalam Xian, Zayü Xian) [Bhutan, India, Nepal, Sikkim]. Saxifraga parnassiifolia var. obscuricallosa, which was accepted in FRPS, cannot be distinguished reliably because of intermediates. Can anyone solve this mystery or give clear cut and verifiable keys between the two? Very pertinent question. Let’s see what others have to say.
As indicated by Eflora of China and also Vol 1, Flora of Nepal, in S. parnassifolia the cauline leaves are more or less amplexicaule and the basal leaves resemble that of Parnassia. In S. diversifolia the cauline leaves ovate and not amplexicaule.
Earlier illustrations and photos could be mixed and include S. parnassifolia which was considered a variety of S. diversifolia for a long time.
Having said this, I need to see it more closely in the field. here I’m pasting one more key, may it help you, I had never seen Saxifraga diversifolia, so don’t have images of the same. . Saxifraga parnassifolia D.Don: 6 very high res. images. Location: Rara, Nepal
Altitude: 2891m.
Date: 22 August 2021
Habit : Wild
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