Dalbergia lanceolaria subsp. paniculata (Roxb.) Thoth. (Syn: Amerimnon paniculatum (Roxb.) Kuntze; Dalbergia hemsleyi Prain; Dalbergia maymensis Craib; Dalbergia nigrescens Kurz; Dalbergia paniculata Roxb.);
Wood of this sp. is used primarily as fuel and not preferred for furniture etc.;
Cambodia (N) ; India (N) ; Andhra Pradesh ; Goa ; Gujarat; Haryana ; Karnataka ; Kerala ; Madhaya Pradesh ; Maharashtra ; Meghalaya ; Orissa ; Rajasthan ; Tamil Nadu ; Uttar Pradesh ; Laos (N) ; Myanmar (N) ; Nepal (N) ; Thailand (N) ; Vietnam (N) as per ILDIS;
D. lanceolaria subsp. lanceolaria has 11-17 leaflets not turning black when dry, and pink flowers, upper two calyx teeth obtuse lower three acute; whereas D. lanceolaria subsp. paniculata has 9-13 leaflets turning black when dry, and white flowers, all five calyx teeth acute.
Fabaceae-Faboideae (Papilionaceae) Week : Trees : Dalbergia lanceolaria ssp.paniculata: Dalbergia lanceolaria ssp.paniculata
Adding video of Dalbergia paniculata. Not sure whether it is the same species.
Dalbergia paniculata- Flora Of Madhya Pradesh: Sharing – Dalbergia paniculata tree (Fabaceae) , photographed at Jungle of Betul, MP.
Dated- 15th Dec 11.
Local name- Dhobin, Phansi.
( I asked d story behind name- ” Phansi” bt no one der knew . I’ll try to find out in next trip ).
Tree height- abt 35- 40 feet
Tree bark- yellowish -grey.
Wood of this sp is used primarily as fuel and nt preferred for furniture etc.
Dalbergia for id 161209MK3 : 12 posts by 5 authors. Attachments (3).
Kindly help me to identify this big tree. Could this be Dalbergia paniculata?
Date: 10 Dec 2009
Locality: Moyar river bank, Satyamangalam forest division, Eastern Ghats
Affirmitive … It is Dalbergia lanceolaria [D.paniculata] locally called Phanshi.
D.lanceolaria is different from D.paniculata sir. Sorry I could not get the flowers.
Hold on Guys..there is confusion…….flowers of Sahyadri Part I says D. Lanceolaria (syn D. paniculata) on 36 has pinkish flowers… and same D. lanceolaria on FOS part II says it has white flowers. can some one throw light on this.
link of FOI.net
D. lanceolaria Linn. and D. paniculata are distinct and if we follow GRIN terminology they are better named as D. lanceolaria subsp. lanceolaria and D. lanceolaria subsp. paniculata (Roxb.) Thoth. Former has 11-17 leaflets not turning black when dry, and pink flowers, upper two calyx teeth obtuse lower three acute; whereas latter has 9-13 leaflets turning black when dry, and white flowers, all five calyx teeth acute.
The number of leaflets suggest D. lanceolaria subsp. paniculata for these photographs.
That should solve colour confusion.
…, not sure whether D. paniculata is a separate species … could be sub-species as put at NPGS / GRIN
D. paniculata is broadly a synonym of D. lanceolaria OR at subspecies level: Dalbergia lanceolaria subsp. paniculata
D. lanceolaria is commonly known as: bastard rose wood • Assamese: meda-luwa, mouhit • Bengali: chakemdia • Coorgi: ಹಸರುಗೋಣಿ hasarugoni, ಶ್ವೇತ ಬೀಟೆ shweta beete • Gujarati: તણતોશી tantoshi • Hindi: हर्दी hardi, टाकोली takoli • Kannada: ಬಿಳಿ ಬಿಟೆ bili beete • Kolami: piri • Malayalam: കണ്ണന് വാക kannan vaaka, വെള്ളീട്ടി velliitti • Marathi: दोण्डुस dondus. फणशी phanshi • Mundari: birmunga, keadcadlomdaru • Oriya: dodilo • Rajasthani: barbat, passi • Sanskrit: गोरक्ष goraksha • Santal: chapot siris • Tamil: எரிகை erikai, காட்டுப்பச்சிலை kattuppachalai • Telugu: కొండపచారీ kondapachari, తెల్లవిరుగుడు tellavirugudu • Urdu: dandous
what a sweet coincidence? we reached the same conclusion independently within minutes of each other.
But.. conclusion is still technical for layman like me…………
practically can be considered that D. lanceolaria has “… Flower tube dull white or pinkish …” just as put at FOI http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Takoli.html.
Shrikant ji’s FOS and FFOS also illustrates the same aspect.
At depth, … has explained well the variations in shapes of flower parts, the colour of flowers and the number of leaflets — either considered as per species of Dalbergia or subspecies of D. lanceolaria.
I wish I was not very technical. As I wrote earlier they were described as distinct species. Dalbergia lanceolaria has pink flowers, D. paniculata white flowers. We we treat them one species D. lanceolaria should be the correct name (being published earlier) and D. paniculata its synonym. Then we would be justified in saying that species has pink or white flowers. If, however, we treat latter as subspecies of former then D. lanceolaria subsp. lanceolaria would have pink flowers and D. lanceolaria subsp. white flowers. Other differences I have mentioned earlier.
I hope I have explained things in simple way.
Have huge trees of Dalbergia lanceolaria at my property at Shahapur [near Bombay]. Sending you a few photographs of the flowers and fruit.
Good to see them …, only flowers could solve clearly this id.
Dalbergia lanceolaria subsp. paniculata (Roxb.) Thoth. SN Aug 42 : 1 post by 1 author. Attachments (4).
Dalbergia lanceolaria subsp. paniculata (Roxb.) Thoth (= D. paniculata Roxb.),
fast growing tree, tall or short from scrub jungle deciduous forest from Chamundi hills, Mysore.
ANSEPT59 Please confirm if Dalbergia lanceolaria subsp. paniculata : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (4).
Yes it is matching.
Yes from me too
In Marathi धोंडूस
TSPNOV2015-51: Images of Dalbergia paniculata (Fabaceae) : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (7)
It is my pleasure to share few images of Dalbergia paniculata (Fabaceae)
Habitat: Wild, Dry deciduous forest
Sighting: Tumkur, Karnataka, about 900 msl
Date: 08-07-2015 and 24-08-2015
Why the stem appears so red in many photos? Natural colour?
Dalbergia species for ID : 21 posts by 10 authors. Attachments (5)
I was following this tree on Vetal Tekdi for a very long time.
At one place it was wrongly labelled as Albizia odoratissima.
Ultimately I could catch the flowering and could capture the data and photographs in the visits in last week till today.
The venation on the leaflets is reticulate.Very few trees are flowering.
I think this tree has to be Dalbergia lanceolaria. ssp.paniculata.
There are plenty of Dalbergia lanceolaria ssp. lanceolaria trees nearby which flower in March, April. but this set appears to be different.
The flowers are also pure white and much smaller.
A picture with a pod of earlier season’s flowers.
I too think this is Dalbergia lanceolaria !! But not sure about the sub species
yes this Dalbergia lanceolaria var. paniculata
This is D. horrida (Dennst.) Mabb. syn D. sympathetica
According to Dr. Almeida’s flora of Mah. D. horrida (Dennst. ex Fortsetz) Mabberley is a large scandent shrub running over high trees. Request … to inform about this.
I am not convinced with D.horrida yet.
I think the leaflets don’t match here. In my tree leaflets though not opposite are not imparipinnate but I think they are paripinnate.
Needs further study here.
It still appears closer to D.horrida var. concanensis
If the plant is not a scandent shrub than D. horrida can be ruled out. Besides, yes in your pics leaflets are paripinnate, whereas D. horrida are supposed to be imparipinnate. I think if it is a tree than it comes close to D. paniculata Roxb. according to Dr. Almeida’s flora.
I agree with you … You have checked all points (Which I also think are correct) from your flora. This is a nice, not very big but definitely one, a tree and not a scandent shrub.
Ok, here’s the description for D. paniculata Roxb….” Corollas 8 mm long, bluish-white; standard oblong, emarginate, 3-4 mm broad, with a claw about as long as the tube of the calyx and without any callosity at the base….” Hope this helps.
i am attaching pictures of Dalbergia paniculata for comparison.
Any comment on the id pl?
A very robust and gregariously flowering tree …! Seems to be matching, Dr. Almeida’s flora has leaf description of D.paniculata Roxb. as “leaflets 9-15, rigidly subcoriaceous, 2-2.5 by 1-2 cm, obovate, oblong or elliptic, obtuse, emarginate , glabrous; petioles 1-2 mm long.”
Your leaves look retuse to me maybe just a variation? The pods with long stalks matches in both the sets. But the flowers are too tiny to see the details. Your set appears more greenish white, whereas … more bluish white. Will be good to get more observations and comments on this.
Just continuing the thread….attaching pictures of both UnIded Dalbergia (From above thread) along with Dalbergia lanceolaria(Known plant) which flowers in April.
Any final id on the unidentified plant?
I stick to my comment
It has to be Dalbergia lanceolaria ssp. paniculata.
Dhondus in Marathi
In ssp. paniculata the leaflets turn blackish on drying. In ssp. lanceolaria they do not. I first read this in the Brandis flora and have found it to be true.
Yes I agree with … This I have observed regarding the above trees which are in plenty on Vetal Tekdi
As regards the description of both ssps. there is some confusion between Cooke flora and BSI flora.
The names and description of plants is reversed I think.
Above plant is Dhondus धोंडूस though
Fabaceae-Faboideae (Papilionaceae) Week : Trees : Dalbergia lanceolaria ssp.lanceolaria: Dalbergia lanceolaria ssp. lanceolaria
‘Dandus’ ‘Dhondus’ धोंडूस
seeing this first time in flowering
Dalbergia lanceolaria. ssp. paniculata as per another thread.
Valparai 080714 TBN 2 for id/ TBN July 2 : 5 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (3).
Please identify this plant details of which are as follows:
Date : 20.06.14
Location :Route to Valparai, above Aliyar dam
Altitude :approx 1000 to 1500 ft
Habitat :wild/ ? dry deciduous
Height :20 to 30 ft
Fruits :not seen,
Probably Dalbergia sp?
Yes, me too thought of a Dalbergia species
The flowers look very much like Dalbergia laceolaria var. paniculata.
Others characters need to be checked. Any pods? Bark pictures?
Sorry, I do not have.
I also think close to images at Dalbergia lanceolaria subsp. paniculata (Roxb.) Thoth.
Dalbergia lanceolaria paniculata (Roxb.) Thoth