Rudbeckia laciniata ‘Goldquelle’ : Pahalgam : 191112 : AK-1: At Pahalgam in Sept,2011.

A cultivated, ornamental, garden plant with bright yellow flowers.


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Rudbeckia laciniata ‘Goldquelle’ , a tall ornamental commonly grown in Kashmir. In our house for at least last 40 years.  


 
is this Coreopsis grandiflora? This is what I got closest after searching the net.

Yes .. You are very correct. Good to know that you have learnt so many plants.


Thank you … It is possible because of experts like you. I equate experts like you to our Rishis in the past who had vast knowledge about the subject and eflora group like a Gurukul. The only difference being that students like me do not have to be present physically with the experts because of the modern day technology. Its a perfect combination of our old tradition of selfless impartment of knowledge and modern day technology. Of course some Rishis are strict but kind too so it gives a good feeling .


Can we call it as E Gurukul. We have distance education classes.


Beautiful. The flowers are so heavy and stem so week, how could so many of them stand?
The emergence from the ground too is as if they are arranged for ekebana


Yes the stem could not hold the flowers . I had to support them by a stick from behind. It is not seen in
this pic


Oh yes that reminds me. This plant is growing in our house in Srinagar Kashmir. It was vegetative by the time we reached Kashmir in June. It started flowering in July and by the time we were coming back in August, the
branches (generally so many in a cluster and often growing to more than 1.5 m tall) were finding difficult to hold together several heads, and we managed by tying together the stems with a thread. Thanks .. for
your keen observation and reminding me.


A beautiful (and full) garden flower. Asteraceae member.
I think it’s growing in your garden. Nice collection indeed. Liked the word e-gurukul too.


Yes .. It is perennial herb with underground rhizomatous stock. You plant it and forget. In temperate climate it is a boon, as winter lawns and beds are mostly empty, and young foliage of this plant appear of their own in march
april and start spreading. Each year you would have a spreading patch in the bed, which slowly elongates to produce attactive flower-heads.


My post at the url is actually Rudbeckia laciniata

my post url for the same is  

 

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Garden Flower for ID : Kenya : 200611 : AK-3: Taken on the 1st of Feb,2009 at Nairobi, Kenya.
A garden plant, cultivated having medium height of about 2-3 feet.

it seeks this is one of the many hybrids of DAHLIA….


I thought I had identified this flower but found two similar looking ones on flowersofindia site. So I’m a bit confused and thought of taking help from our expert friends.
One is Rudbeckia laciniata, the other is Heliopsis helianthoides…which one is this?
Probably.. can help.

by all means lets see what the experts have to say…. did you originally identify it as a Dahlia? 

Rudbeckia laciniata:  is a cone flower…. your  flower /this does not look like a cone flower , too many petals in multiple whorls…. although the leaves may be similar to coneflower’s perhaps… 
Heliopsis helianthoides : is also an aster family, you flower again has too many petals whorls… most of the heliopsis I know have one or at the most two whorls of petals… unless your flower is a new cultivar off either one of these… 
My rule is when in doubt check out Herbarium specimen from reputed herbaria…
heres a link from FSU:
http://herbarium.bio.fsu.edu/view-image.php?Image=images/herbarium/jp… 
and for heliopsis helianthoides …again look at the leaf  anatomy… very different from yours…
at this site…http://wisplants.uwsp.edu/scripts/detail.asp?
SpCode=HELHEL 
and now for DAHLIA… see pg 18 of this pdf from Harvard edu site … for the leaf pattern/anatomy
arnoldia.arboretum.harvard.edu/pdf/articles/1705.pdf 
look at the leaf… compare with your own… why leaf… because the flower may not have fully opened to show the typical cone of a coneflower or the central green/brownish green disk of the heliopsis yet… 


I think this is a Chrysanthemum species, exact species out of my mind but I have seen it flowering in our house in Kashmir,interesting because it grows very tall and produces flowers late in November December. I can still see
some plants in my house here. The new branches sprount every year in March and flowering occurs towards the end of autumn. 

Please check for Coneflower or Ragged Coneflower and Heliopsis Ballerina on flowersofindia site.
I found them similar looking, but have to find the right one.


Yes .. Heliopsis helianthoides ‘Ballerina’, the false sunflower


This plant is actually Rudbeckia laciniata ‘Goldquelle’, as is also mine from Kashmir. Heliopsis leaves are simple and not cut or lobed as in this case.


 

 

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efloraofindia:”For Id 31082011MR2’’ plant with yellow flowers Pune :requesting for identification

Date/Time-July 2011
Location-Place, Altitude, GPS-Pune
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-Garden
Plant Habit-Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- small plant
Height/Length- 2 feet
Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- green
Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- Yellow
Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- Not seen


Heliopsis helianthoides ‘Ballerina

http://www.flowersofindia.in/catalog/slides/Heliopsis%20Ballerina.html


Many thanks … for the Id Rudbeckia laciniata ‘Goldquelle’


    
 
 
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