Magnolia liliifera (L.) Baill., Hist. Pl. 1: 141 1868. (Syn: Aromadendron oreadum (Diels) Kaneh. & Hatus.; Blumia candollei Nees [Invalid]; Liriodendron liliiferum L.; Magnolia andamanica (King) D.C.S.Raju & M.P.Nayar; Magnolia andamanica King [Invalid]; Magnolia candollei (Blume) H.Keng [Illegitimate]; Magnolia craibiana Dandy; Magnolia eriostepta var. poilanei Dandy ex Humbert [Invalid]; Magnolia forbesii King [Invalid]; Magnolia kunstleri King [Invalid]; Magnolia mutabilis (Blume) H.J.Chowdhery & P.Daniel; Magnolia odoratissima Reinw. ex Blume [Invalid]; Magnolia pachyphylla Dandy; Magnolia poilanei (Dandy ex Humbert) Callaway [Invalid]; Magnolia pulgarensis Dandy; Magnolia pumila Andrews; Magnolia rumphii (Blume) Spreng.; Magnolia splendens Reinw. ex Blume [Invalid]; Magnolia thamnodes Dandy; Manglietia celebica Miq.; Manglietia sebassa King; Manglietia thamnodes (Dandy) Gagnep.; Talauma andamanica King; Talauma athliantha Dandy; Talauma borneensis Merr.; Talauma candollei Blume; Talauma candollei var. latifolia Blume; Talauma celebica Koord.; Talauma forbesii King; Talauma gitingensis Elmer ..; Talauma gracilior Dandy; Talauma inflata P.Parm.; Talauma javanica P.Parm.; Talauma kunstleri King; Talauma liliifera (L.) Kurz; Talauma liliifera (L.) Kuntze; Talauma longifolia (Blume) Ridl.; Talauma macrophylla Blume ex Miq.; Talauma miqueliana Dandy; Talauma mutabilis Blume …; Talauma nhatrangensis Dandy; Talauma oreadum Diels; Talauma pulgarensis Elmer; Talauma pumila (Andrews) Blume; Talauma reticulata Merr.; Talauma rubra Miq.; Talauma rumphii Blume; Talauma sebassa (King) Miq. ex Dandy; Talauma soembensis Dandy; Talauma sumatrana A.Agostini; Talauma thamnodes (Dandy) Tiep; Talauma undulatifolia A.Agostini);
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Common name: Egg Magnolia • Hindi: हिम चम्पा Him Champa • Manipuri: ঊথম্বাল Oothambal
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Magnolia: 1 image.
A Magnolia bud from my garden in Bangalore, taken yesterday. Sadly the bud fell off soon after, before blooming. This is the third time it has happened.
Can any of the members advise on how to prevent this.


Looks more like Talauma mutabilis but I am not sure how to prevent the premature bud fall


Spray planofix (2ml in one litre of water) at the beginning of flowering i.e. initiation of buds once a week to prevent fall of buds. This is available in agro-chemicals shop.


thank you … will be useful for all those that have plnats in gardens, balcony, rooftop terrace… etc



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 I am sending herewith the photographs of Magnolia species (M. grandiflora ?) for confirmation.
Photos taken in a park in Mysore on 6.11.2011.

Not Magnolia grandiflora at least


Magnolia liliifera (L.) Baill. is the current name. syn Talauma mutabilis. This is a shrub with much smaller flowers than M. grandiflora. The leaves are not coriaceous and golden brown beneath.


Yes …, now Magnolia liliifera.


Egg Magnolia is a medium size tree with large velvet leaves and fragrant yellowish off-white flowers about 4-5″ wide.
It is found in North-East India – Assam, Manipur, Sikkim.
Before opening, buds have an egg shape, hence the common name.
One of the most valuable ornamental fragrant trees of Asia.
A highly valued fragrant flower of this small tree or shrub resembles Dwarf Magnolia flower, but the scent is much stronger. Leaves are large, 7-9 inches long and 4 inches wide.
Can be grown in container in a well-lit spot.
Egg Magnolia is similar to Dwarf Magnolia, as both species have those egg shaped flowerbuds, but Dwarf Magnolia flowers are white.

Requesting ID of this plant from Mumbai : 16042013 : ARK-01 : Attachments (4). 4 posts by 2 authors.
Requesting ID of this plant found in a cultivate garden in Mumbai in Apr 2013


Magnolia pumila कवठी चाफा


As per plantlist.org, the accepted name is Magnolia liliifera..



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Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight :: Magnoliaceae – Magnolia liliifera from Mumbai :: AKMAR-07 : Attachments(5). 1 post by 1 author.
Attached are pictures of Magnolia liliifera from Mumbai in April 2013.
This has been posted and identified on this forum.



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Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight : Talauma mutabilis : Kodaikanal : 110314 : AK-5 : Attachments (1). 2 posts by 2 authors.
Posted on our group earlier and identified by …


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24th of October, 2008/ 10.06 am: Kodaikanal; Magnolia for ID : 200310-AK-3 – efloraofindia | Google Groups


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Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight : Magnolia For ID : Lalbagh,Bangalore : 110314 : AK-3 : Attachments (2). 3 posts by 2 authors.
Magnolia seen in Lalbagh, Bangalore in November, 2013.
Didn’t see the buds open, they would fall off as they are seen here.
A small, cultivated tree.
Magnolia liliiflora?


Magnolia liliifera, (L.) Baill. <=> Egg Magnolia Tree


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Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight : Magnoliaceae::Talauma mutabilis :: SMP06 : 3 posts by 3 authors. 1 image.
Talauma mutabilis कवठी चाफा Pune



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Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight : Magnolia liliiflora-Yellow : For Validation : Jijamata Udyan,Mumbai : 110314 : AK-4 : 5 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3).
Magnolia liliiflora seen at the plant nursery.
Kindly validate.


efi page on Magnolia liliiflora   


Appears to be Magnolia liliifera


Thanks …



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Dilleniaceae, Magnoliaceae and Annonaceae Fortnight: Magnoliaceae-07032014AJK1 From: Shripadwadi-June 2013 : 7 posts by 4 authors. 3 images.
Requesting to please identify this Magnolia (Local name: कवठी चाफा), photographed in June 2013, at Shripadwadi – a small village near Gadhinglaj, Dist Kolhapur, Maharashtra)


Very good photographs. Would be interesting to know its ID.


Check for Talauma grandiflora of Magnoliaceae


Appears to be Magnolia liliifera


Thanks for confirming the id.



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MAGNOLIA LILIIFERA ( EGG MAGNOLIA ) : 4 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (5)
Attaching four images and a collage of Magnolia liliifera (EGG MAGNOLIA).


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Magnolia id please: 3 images.
Shot in Neighbours’ garden, Bangalore
id help appreciated


Magnolia grandiflora


Not Magnolia grandiflora please
Should be Talauma mutabilis


I had not come across the name Talauma mutabilis before.
Cannot keep up with all the name changes!
It might be better known under the old name Magnolia lilifera var lilifera.
http://www.google.co.uk/search


Looks similar to Magnolia coco,
I’ll await input from others though.

Better than that…
I need to see the open flower and preferably the fruit pod shape…. there is a bewildering number of hybrids…


It does not open completely mam. This is a very short lived flower..the petals fall off the very next day..


then its not a magnolia grandiflora
ps… take pictures of what remains after the petals fall off and do a follow up … watch the tree…to see what develops…


it may be?? Egg Magnolia (Talauma candollei)
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/165898/


cant tell!
need to see the tree, leaves, bark, habit, and most essentially the seedpod…
i dont want to play a guessing game…. wont be accurate….
people who specialize in magnolias and their hybridization and take it very seriously would laugh at us …. because we would be very far from the base…
just like a gland made up of malignant cells is an adeno…
but of what organ of orirgin??? … cant be forecast with any accuracy… quite the same with just the small flower portrait, it does not lend itself to a firm diagnosis…


This is Magnolia liliifera (L.) Baill.



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