Eriocaulon robustobrownianum Ruhland, Pflanzenr. IV, 30: 77 1903. (syn: Eriocaulon mysorense Fyson; Eriocaulon rhodae Fyson);
SW. India, Sri Lanka, Myanmar as per WCSP;
Eriocaulon robustobrownianum Ruhland :: along Kumta Sirsi Road on December 17, 2012 : 1 post by 1 author. 7 images.
Eriocaulon robustobrownianum Ruhland … Eriocaulaceae
along Kumta Sirsi Road on December 17, 2012 … thanks to … for ID
Names of Plants in India :: etymology of epithet robustobrownianum : 5 posts by 3 authors.
I could not find any clue to what the epithet robustobrownianum in context of Eriocaulon robustobrownianum Ruhland stands for.
Hopefully someone helps with the etymology.
I was able to trace back to the original publication by Engler in 1903 (see attached). Although there is no direct mention of etymology of the specific epithet in the protologue, we can infer something. First of all, the specific epithet is originally hyphenated (robusto-Brownianum). And, there is another species called Eriocaulon brownianum (the first letter of specific names derived from name of a person or place was usually capitalized in the past). I assume that this plant, E. robusto-brownianum, is morphologically somewhat similar to E. brownianum but comparatively more ”robust” in its habit, i.e. the peduncles could be more in number and/or stouter than those of E. brownianum. This is just a hypothesis, though!
Thank you very much …; your analysis is convincing, and etymology should be so. I too was thinking that robusto could be a descriptive prefix, when I saw few instances of the hyphenated epithet, as in Herbarium JCB, IISc, … but did not know of another species E. brownianum. Thank you very much.
I agree with … although in the protologue it mentions SUBROBUST, but such terms are usually in comparison with another existing species, eg. Balanopsis and Cyclobalanopsis. Sometimes names are even in parts or just to sound like an existing name or just opposite of the wording of an existing name:
Thismia : Thomas Smith, some say it is opposite of SMITH.
Sedirea: Opposite of another orchid Aerides because flower looks like it but obviously not same genus.
Thanks and regards
This the first post in efi so far for this species.
So pl. post more images so that these are incorporated in efi site.
Oh sure, … Will do it tonight or so.
commonly known as: Mysore pipewort • Kannada: ಮೈಸೂರು ಗುಂಡು mysuru gundu • Malayalam: മൈസൂർ ചൂത് mysur chooth • Marathi: मैसूर गेंद mysoor gend
botanical names: Eriocaulon robustobrownianum Ruhland … heterotypic synonyms: Eriocaulon mysorense Fyson … POWO
Bibliography / etymology
~~~~~ ENGLISH ~~~~~
~~~~~ KANNADA ~~~~~
ಮೈಸೂರು ಚೆಂಡು Mysuru chendu
~~~~~ MALAYALAM ~~~~~
മൈസൂർ ചൂത് mysur chooth
~~~~~ MARATHI ~~~~~
मैसूर गेंद mysoor gend
~~~~~ x ~~~~~
I will go through and offer my comments in a day or two on adaptation of the word Gend in Kannada and renaming after the word.
The name coined in Kannada is ಮೈಸೂರು ಗುಂಡು mysuru gundu
The word gend is used in Marathi.
I hope you are going to validate the Kannada name … ಮೈಸೂರು ಗುಂಡು mysuru gundu
The classification of Aquatic plants Eriocaulon is understandably complex, could you point the unique species identification points? Or better do you have a taxonomic key?
Identification till Genus Eriocaulon is very easy.
I am seeing and collecting a lot Erios (as they are known among Aquarists) but no idea about their classification.
In addition many Erios are endangered like for example Eriocaulon ratanagiricum. A clear ID will help in conservation.
I fully agree identifying Eriocaulon spp. to specific ID requires proper analysis as per keys.
ID of posted Eriocaulon as E. robustobrownianum was suggested by Shrikant ji Ingalhalikar, author of “Flowers of Sahyadri” book series – field guides to identify plants of northern Western Ghats.
मैसूर गेंद mysoor gend
With reference to the above I wish to add my comments as follows :
I suggest you may change it to Mysuru chendu (Chendu = Ball); ಮೈಸೂರು ಚೆಂಡು. The correct word for ball in Kannada is Chendu. Hence, Mysuru chendu ( Chendu = Ball); ಮೈಸೂರು ಚೆಂಡು is very appropriate if you are deriving fresh name. The common Marigold (Tagetes erecta) is called ಚೆಂಡು ಹೂವು, based on the nature of the flowers in the form of a ball. Hence, I feel the word proposed by me is more appropriate in Kannada rather then Mysore gendu.
Many many thanks dear … for this great help with new name in Kannada for Eriocaulon robustobrownianum.
I will revise the compilation to ಮೈಸೂರು ಚೆಂಡು Mysuru chendu, and post the revised compilation shortly.
Kannada name revised …
Thanks a lot … for accepting my suggestion. A great encouragement to me to contribute more & support your efforts.
It is the other way round – I thank you always for your close collaboration with my work of compiling the regional names. Of course, I thank all other dear members like Saroj ji, Kiratsinh ji, Prasanta ji, Lalithamba ji, Vijayasankar ji, Viplav ji; I am afraid I may have missed a few more collaborators’ names.
So much said, I am copying the blog here once more. I had missed adding the “many thanks” line in the Kannada bibliography notes.