Eritrichium spathulatum (Benth.) C. B. Cl., J.D.Hooker, Fl. Brit. India 4: 164 (1883). (syn: Cynoglossospermum spathulatum (Benth.) Kuntze; Echinospermum spathulatum Benth.; Eritrichium canum var. spathulatum (Benth.) Y.J.Nasir; Eritrichium jacquemontii Decne.);
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Boraginaceae week: Unidentified one from Hemis Ladakh: 5 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (3)
Seen this herb near “Hemis Monastary” Ladakh. Leaves were hairy.
Date/Time: 15-09-2011 / 01:30PM
Location: Hemis Monastary, Ladakh
Plant Habit: Herb
Habitat: Wild, seen near the rocky soil.
Flower size: Approx 4mm across,
Family: Boraginaceae.
I had posted this earlier. Response from …: “Boraginaceae, identification not possible without fruits, if the were not visible could be Myosotis alpestris”. Thanks … for possible ID and the inputs.
Date/Time: 15-09-2011 / 01:30PM
Location: Hemis Monastary, Ladakh
Plant Habit: Herb
Habitat: Wild, seen near the rocky soil.
Flower size: Approx 4mm across,
Family: Boraginaceae.
I had posted this earlier. Response from …: “Boraginaceae, identification not possible without fruits, if the were not visible could be Myosotis alpestris”. Thanks … for possible ID and the inputs.
looks like some Cynoglossum sp
Two fruits are seen, more clearly in second photograph: one at extreme right above the flower and one near the upper margin in between the flowers. … could you crop these from original photograph and upload for clarity. From these it is clearly not Myosotis.
Can yellow ring points towards some Hackelia species ?
A reply from another thread:
“Boraginaceae, identification not possible without fruits, if the were not visible could be Myosotis alpestris.”
“Boraginaceae, identification not possible without fruits, if the were not visible could be Myosotis alpestris.”
I agree that without fruits (typically nutlets) some Boraginaceae can be difficult.
My first thoughts are an Eritrichium rather than Myosotis asiatica (syn. Myosotis alpestris subsp. asiatica) which is the only Myosotis recorded from Ladakh.
I seem to detect green, immature fruits in two of the images, showing bristles. If so, this means will be an Eritrichium – of which 6 are recorded for Ladakh: E.canum, E.fruticulosum, E.hemisphaericum, E.patens,
E.thymifolium and E.villosum; it is not E.villosum (syn. E.nanum subsp. villosum) or E.hemisphaericum.
E.thymifolium and E.villosum; it is not E.villosum (syn. E.nanum subsp. villosum) or E.hemisphaericum.
Eritrichium, according to ‘Flowers of the Himalaya’ have ovoid nutlets, 3-angled with winged margins, with or without hooked bristles.
Will need to check out the others.
I must locate my copy of Boraginaceae of Pakistan and see if this makes things clearer.
I must locate my copy of Boraginaceae of Pakistan and see if this makes things clearer.
Eritrichium fruticulosum Klotzsch ??
Thanks, … Yes, appears close as per GBIF specimens:
Also does not match with other species as mentioned by …, as per GBIF:
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=IN&taxon_key=7295228
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=7294921
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=7294921
Seen this herb near “Hemis Monastary” Ladakh. It was more or less prostrate herb. Leaves were hairy.
Date/Time: 15-09-2011 / 01:30PM
Location: Hemis Monastary, Ladakh
Plant Habit: Herb
Habitat: Wild, seen near the rocky soil.
Flower size: Approx 4mm across,
Family: Boraginaceae
Date/Time: 15-09-2011 / 01:30PM
Location: Hemis Monastary, Ladakh
Plant Habit: Herb
Habitat: Wild, seen near the rocky soil.
Flower size: Approx 4mm across,
Family: Boraginaceae
Boraginaceae, identification not possible without fruits, if the were not visible could be Myosotis alpestris.
A reply as per another thread:
“I agree that without fruits (typically nutlets) some Boraginaceae can be difficult.
“I agree that without fruits (typically nutlets) some Boraginaceae can be difficult.
My first thoughts are an Eritrichium rather than Myosotis asiatica (syn. Myosotis alpestris subsp. asiatica) which is the only Myosotis recorded from Ladakh.
I seem to detect green, immature fruits in two of the images, showing bristles. If so, this means will be an Eritrichium – of which 6 are recorded for Ladakh: E.canum, E.fruticulosum, E.hemisphaericum, E.patens,
E.thymifolium and E.villosum; it is not E.villosum (syn. E.nanum subsp. villosum) or E.hemisphaericum.
E.thymifolium and E.villosum; it is not E.villosum (syn. E.nanum subsp. villosum) or E.hemisphaericum.
Eritrichium, according to ‘Flowers of the Himalaya’ have ovoid nutlets, 3-angled with winged margins, with or without hooked bristles.
Will need to check out the others.
I must locate my copy of Boraginaceae of Pakistan and see if this makes things clearer.”
I must locate my copy of Boraginaceae of Pakistan and see if this makes things clearer.”
Eritrichium fruticulosum Klotzsch ??
Thanks, … Yes, appears close as per GBIF specimens:
Also does not match with other species as mentioned by …, as per GBIF:
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=IN&taxon_key=7295228
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=7294921
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=7294921
I think it appears close to the POWO specimen and GBIF specimen of Eritrichium spathulatum (Benth.) C.B.Clarke (listed in Ladakh checklist by L. Klimeš and B. Dickoré as published in 2009).
Kindly confirm or otherwise pl.
More close to Eritrichium canum var. fruticulosum (Klotzsch) Y.J.Nasir ??
I think different as per GBIF specimens:
Specimen 1
Specimen 2
This is some Eritrichium, could be E. spathulatum, but without fruits it is hard to tell the species.
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References:
Catalogue of Life POWO specimen GBIF specimen The Plant List Ver.1.1 Flora of China Flora of Pakistan FOP illustration IBIS Flora India Biodiversity Portal JSTOR Type
