MYSTERY SHRUB 23rd Feb 2022…SS: 6 images.
I saw this shrub on Isla de la Plata. Ecuador.
Part of Machalilla National Park.
On 4th April 2019…just 6 pics
I have tried since than to id it…with no joy.
Please may I seek the assistance of the world wide experts that help here to id this very distinctive plant.
Appears to be from Lamiaceae like Phlomis?
However, I do not believe it is Lamiaceae.
The leaves of which emerge oppositely, each pair at right angles to the previous one (decussate) or whorled.
Mystery shrub has alternate leaves.
I have worked very hard to try and id this myself. ..but I am not a botanist, just a keen amateur.
I loved those green square stems so interesting
To me the globose /spherical heads of flowers on stalks remind me of a 3 shrubs/trees.
Someone in the world will surely recognise my mystery shrub/tree
I still feel it may be from Lamiaceae.
Appears close to images at Leonotis nepetifolia (L.) R.Br., but peduncles are long in your images.
Thank you for taking the time to look at my mystery shrub, and for your suggestion.
It was more woody,tree like than a herbaceous plant.
Any idea about the family?
I think it is not a Lamiacean member. Leaf is alternate here.
It is not close to Leonotis.
thank you for looking and reading my comments.
I may be an amateur… but I do have a fair amount of knowledge.
I discounted Lamiaceae /and Leonotis…with my reasons …so frustrating, no one seemed to believe me!
They will believe you …..an Assistant Professor in a Department of Botany
Leaves are not opposite so cannot be Lamiaceae !
The leaves look different.
I was so sure it would be easy to id I only took these pics
Pic 3 seems to have some sort of gland in the axil of the leaves.
Does this lead to any further clues?
I have seen something slightly similar in Aleurites molaccana where 2 glands at the junction of the leaf base and petiole secrete a sweetish sap
But fruits look different and more like those in Uncaria, Mitragyna etc. of Rubiaceae.
Are you sure it is not a climber?
One of my friend says this could be Byttneria. Please check the Malvaceae database for Africa.
this is a new plant to me i will do more research.
Had I seen any evidence of that that I would have taken pics.
I find the fruits of Byttneria to be a little different.
I say again, please remember that this genus has lianas too. That’s why I always say take multiple pics from multiple angles, like … sir. In botany please do not take it for granted that you will get a second chance to visit the plant to take pictures once again, especially when you are travelling.
Thank you……I am EXTREMELY /ACUTELY aware of this.
Many thanks for the help from all in this group!
Nothing ventured nothing gained.
I had the cheek to write to Kew a good while ago!
I have just received a very kind, helpful e mail…
Hurray…after 3 years I have finely got the answer…see below
It ties in perfectly with … answer
Quote from Kew.
“Thank you for your email and I apologise for taking so long to get back to you. I haven’t been able to get a definitive answer but one of our scientists has said that she thinks it looks most like a Byttneria species in the Malvaceae family.
I hope that helps!”
Same happening with Efi. I sometime give identification of a plant posted in 2007 i.e. after 15 years and members are surprised to get response after 15 years.