Allardia tridactylites (Kar. & Kir.) Sch. Bip., in Jahresber. Pollichia 20-21: 442 (1863) (syn: Waldheimia tridactylites Kar. & Kir.);
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NE. Afghanistan to SW. Siberia and Himalaya: Afghanistan, Altay, East Himalaya, Kazakhstan, Kirgizstan, Mongolia, Nepal, Pakistan, Tadzhikistan, Tibet, Tuva, Uzbekistan, West Himalaya, Xinjiang as per POWO;
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Ladakh, August 2022 :: Allardia nivea :: ARK2022-173: (Mixed thread): 2 correct high res. images as above.
This was at the Chang la (the top) next to Chang la baba mandir, Ladakh in August 2022.
Allardia nivea
1st set of images are of Waldheimia glabra, as per images and details herein.
Id of 2nd set is correct as Waldheimia nivea
Yes first set is Allardia glabra (accepted name according to both POWO and COL)
Second set is A. nivea
I had completely missed the difference in the leaves and thought both of them to be of the same species.
I think it should be Allardia tridactylites as per GBIF images (one, two, three).
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Leaves do suggest W. vestita.
I guessed so.
Your last two in the set of 4 look W. glabra to me.
I agree with … view on the two photographs, in the set of four, which show bright green leaves.
These too Waldheimia vestita ? Attachments (2)
What about the additional 2 pics?
I shall be looking into this further but would welcome input from others. Just for good luck,I see that ‘The Plant List’ has both W.glabra and W.tridactlites as accepted names! W.huegelii is an accepted name – published as a new record for India by Pusalkar, P.K. & Singh, D.K. 2004. Perhaps the authors belong to this group and can tell us how this species is distinguished from other Waldheimas, perhaps having images to post to help the process and recognition in the future?
I think the differences listed in Flora of Brirish India are nicely illustrated by to images one above another in “The Most Beautiful Flowers of Ladakh” by M. Dvorsky at http://www.butbn.cas.cz/ladakh/ornamental_eng.html
Of the 4 above images above 3 and 4 belong to W. glabra while 1 and 2 fit with W. vestita.
As W.nivea is found at such altitudes in Nepal, it is likely that this and perhaps W.vestita occur in Lahoul and or Spiti.
Thanks … for prompting me to update my information.
Mind you, for Waldheimias, which mostly grow at high altitude, it can be exhausting physically and mentally to work methodically. I recollect some 25 years ago on Baralacha La (between Lahoul & Rupshu district of Ladakh) having reached 4800m with the aid of a jeep, I started photographing plants with my camera using slide film. The light conditions were so bright, I knew that this would confuse the in-camera light metering system leading to badly exposed slides, so I needed to “bracket” the exposure (i.e. adjust to allow for this) yet I could not make myself do it! I am dedicated but my head was ‘light’. Mountaineers, faced with much higher altitudes (albeit, they ascend more steadily, on foot, so can adjust better) can easily make mistakes due to lack of oxygen. But I hope those able to access these high passes and photograph with wonderful species found amongst them, can see the value of trying to secure additional, close-up images for us to both admire (and wish we could have been there ourselves) and to aid the studying of India’s high Himalaya and borderlands of Tibet.
Forgot to say, still need help about Waldheimia huegelii– a description please and how to distinguish it from other Waldheimia species in Ladakh (and elsewhere)?
I think … must also be in your company.
I think it should be Allardia tridactylites as per GBIF images (one, two, three).
Enclosing a link for further verification.
https://ppbc.iplant.cn/sp/159347
I think only last two images should be Allardia tridactylites as per GBIF images (one, two, three).
Date/Time: 12-09-2011 / 12:15PM
Bot. name: Waldheimia glabra
Family: Asteraceae
Location: Baralaccha Pass (Altitude: Approx: 16000ft).
Plant Habit: Herb
Habitat: Wild
Very beautiful alpine plant..
Flowers of Himalaya (FOH) gives a very simple and user friendly classification of Himalayan Asteraceae plants.
1) Of course this comes under the group of plants where flower heads with both tubular disc florets and strap shaped ray florets.
Next it comes under the group in which pappus is present.
This group is divided into two subgroups according to colour of ray florets whether….
… … … purple or sometimes white (6 sp.)/ yellow ray florets.(7sp)
Waldhemia genus comes under first subgroup.
Waldhemia glabra is a low spreading or tufted mat forming perennial, with a small rosette of deeply lobed leaves. Ray florets 1-1.5 cm blunt; disc broader than rays, disc florets yellow.
Most of the features nicely seen here.
I think it should be Allardia tridactylites as per GBIF images (one, two, three).
yes
Sharing some pictures I guess is Waldheimia glabra (Decne.) Regel shot on the way to Khardung La Leh on 22 August 2014 at around 16000 ft.
I think it should be Allardia tridactylites as per GBIF images (one, two, three).
Looks like matching.
Enclosing a link for further verification.
https://ppbc.iplant.cn/sp/159347
Leaves do suggest W. vestita.
I guessed so.
Your last two in the set of 4 look W. glabra to me.
I agree with … view on the two photographs, in the set of four, which show bright green leaves.
I think it should be Allardia tridactylites as per GBIF images (one, two, three).
Enclosing a link for further verification.
https://ppbc.iplant.cn/sp/159347
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Ladakh, August 2022 :: Allardia nivea :: ARK2022-173: (Mixed thread): 2 high res. images.
Allardia nivea
1st set of images are of Waldheimia glabra, as per images and details herein.
Id of 2nd set is correct as Waldheimia nivea
Yes first set is Allardia glabra (accepted name according to both POWO and COL)
Second set is A. nivea
I had completely missed the difference in the leaves and thought both of them to be of the same species.
ID OF THIS FLOWERING SHRUB FROM ALPINE ZONE OF 17OOO FT DRASS LOC SECTOR — 4: 1 image.
Could the members of the esteemed group assist in the ID of this flowering shrub growing in the Alpine zone of 17,000 feet in the Drass LOC sector where the Kargil War was fought in the summer of 1999.
Asteraceae
Maybe something close to Waldheimia genus?:
https://efloraofindia.com/2011/09/05/waldheimia/
Waldheimia glabra I hope
This pant is resembling as Waldhemia and species resembling with stoliczkai what I could able to match with the picture. Besides this glabra, tomentosa and one more species found in ladakh.
The two are very close species, in fact Allardia tridactylis was recorded as synonym of A. glabra in FBI and possibly also by Stewart. Now that two speciea are treated distinct. this key should help.
Capitula 1.5 – 2.5 cm across, on sparsely hairy short peduncles. Phyllaries 3.5 – 4.5 mm long, hairy at the bases. Cypselas 2.5 – 3 mm long. 3 Allardia glabra
+ Capitula 2.5 – 3.5 cm across, on glabrous peduncles. Phyllaries 6 – 7 mm long, glabrous all over. Cypselas 3 – 3.5 mm long. 4 Allardia tridactylites
Looking at head size … looks right. although peduncles would confirm.
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References:
POWO Catalogue of Life GBIF images (one, two, three) (High resolution specimens) Flora of China Flora of Pakistan India Biodiversity Portal