{"id":1190253,"date":"2012-06-19T07:46:28","date_gmt":"2012-06-19T07:46:28","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2024-12-24T18:44:00","modified_gmt":"2024-12-24T13:14:00","slug":"chaetoseris-hastata","status":"publish","type":"ht_kb","link":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/efi\/chaetoseris-hastata\/","title":{"rendered":"Melanoseris cyanea"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Melanoseris<\/i> cyanea<\/i> (D. Don) Edgew., Trans. Linn. Soc. London 20:81. 1846 (syn: (\u2261) Chaetoseris cyanea<\/span><\/i><\/a> (D. Don) C. Shih; (\u2261) Cicerbita cyanea<\/span><\/i><\/a> (D. Don) Beauverd;\u00a0(=) Lactuca hastata<\/span><\/i><\/a> DC.) as per GRIN<\/a>\u00a0;<\/span><\/div>\n
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Chaetoseris<\/i> hastata<\/i> (Wall. ex DC.) C.Shih, 404 1991<\/i>. (Syn: Agathyrsus<\/i> cyaneus<\/i> D.Don<\/span><\/a>; Chaetoseris<\/i> hastata<\/i> (Wall. ex DC.) C.Shih<\/span><\/a>; Chaetoseris<\/i> hispida<\/i> C.Shih<\/span><\/a>; Chondrilla<\/i> hastata<\/i> Wall.<\/span><\/a>; Cicerbita<\/i> cyanea<\/i> (D.Don) Beauverd<\/span><\/a>; Cicerbita<\/i> cyanea<\/i> var. cyanea<\/i> <\/span><\/a>; Cicerbita<\/i> cyanea<\/i> var. glandulifera<\/i> (Franch.) Beauverd<\/span><\/a>; Cicerbita<\/i> cyanea<\/i> var. hastata<\/i> (Wall. ex DC.) Beauverd<\/span><\/a>; Cicerbita<\/i> cyanea<\/i> var. khasiana<\/i> Mamgain & R.R.Rao<\/span><\/a>; Cicerbita<\/i> cyanea<\/i> var. neilgherrensis<\/i> (Wight) Beauverd<\/span><\/a>; Cicerbita<\/i> cyanea<\/i> var. paniculata<\/i> Mamgain & R.R.Rao<\/span><\/a>; Lactuca<\/i> funebris<\/i> W.W.Sm.<\/span><\/a>; Lactuca<\/i> hastata<\/i> Wall. ex DC.<\/span><\/a>; Lactuca<\/i> hastata<\/i> var. glandulifera<\/i> Franch.<\/span><\/a>; Lactuca<\/i> hastata<\/i> var. hastata<\/i> <\/span><\/a>; Mulgedium<\/i> cyaneum<\/i> (D.Don) DC.<\/span><\/a>; Mulgedium<\/i> neilgherrense<\/i> Wight<\/span><\/a>; Mulgedium<\/i> robustum<\/i> Wall. ex DC.<\/span><\/a>; Sonchus<\/i> cyaneus<\/i> D.Don<\/span><\/a>; Sonchus<\/i> robustus<\/i> Wall.<\/span><\/a>) as per The Plant List Ver.1.1<\/span><\/a>;
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Tall perennial herb up to 2 m tall glabrescent below, glandular pubescent above especially in the inflorescence; leaves up to 30 cm long, petiole somewhat winged, blade pinnatifid with large terminal lobe, upper progressively smaller; heads bhluish-purple, 18-22 mm long, in panicles, on nodding peduncles; outer involucre bracts about half as long as inner ones, bristly hairy; florets 10-30; achenes elliptic or obovate, 6 mm long (including beak), with beak white as long as dark brown body; pappus 5-6 mm long, dirty white.<\/span><\/div>\n
The plant (Chaetoseris<\/i> hastata<\/i>) looks similar in appearance<\/span> to Prenanthes brunoniana<\/i> but latter has only 3-5 florets in the head and achenes are not beaked;
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Lactuca macrantha<\/i> (syn. of Chaetoseris<\/i> macrantha<\/i>) is a species restricted to Sikkim at altitudes of 10-14000 ft. in Sikkim Himalayas. It belongs to a section in which outer involucre bracts are longer than inner<\/span>,<\/span> whereas L. hastata<\/i> (Syn. Chaetoseris hastata<\/i>) belongs to a section where outer bracts are shorter than inner.<\/span> <\/span>Also plants of L. macrantha<\/i> are much shorter scarcely excceding 50 cm, here it is much taller;<\/span><\/div>\n
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Herbs, perennial; stems 1-3.5 m tall, erect, unbranched or sparingly paniculately branched. Leaves very variable, usually pinnatifid or pinnate to runcinate-pinnatifid, hastate, deltoid or ovate; petiole winged and slightly dilated at base, simple or auricled. Heads subcampanulate, 1.5-2.3 x 0.6-1.2 cm; peduncle nodding, slender. Outer involucral bracts many seriate, oblong-ovate, 6-8 x 2-2.5 mm inner linear-oblong; 12-17 x 1-2 mm. Ligules blue, purple, violet or creamy white. Achenes dark brown or blackish brown, obovate or elliptic, compressed, 8-10 mm long including slender beak, irregularly ribbed, smooth. Pappus dirty white, 5-10 mm long, simple, deciduous.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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For ID from Chakrata:<\/a> This Asteraceae<\/i> member was shot from Chakrata-Budher road<\/span> on September 18, 2011.<\/span> The height was about 2 feet,<\/span> heads deep blue,<\/span> though could not get the opened flowers.
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I hope Lactuca hastata<\/i><\/p>\n

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this should be Cicerbita macrantha<\/i>.<\/p>\n

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Lactuca macrantha<\/i> is a species restricted to Sikkim at altitudes of 10-14000 ft. in Sikkim Himalayas<\/span><\/div>\n
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It belongs to a section in which outer involucre bracts are longer than inner,<\/span> whereas L. hastata<\/i> belongs to a section where outer bracts are shorter than inner.<\/span> Also plants of L. macrantha<\/i> are much shorter scarcely excceding 50 cm, here it is much taller.<\/span><\/p>\n

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I hope the identity has been resolved, this is Chaetoseris hastata<\/i> (Syn. Lactuca hastata<\/i>)…<\/p>\n

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It is Lactuca cyanea<\/i> to me<\/p>\n

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It would be interesting to know the publication which discusses this, especially from India. Lactuca cyanea<\/i> C. Koch according to the Plant List is unresolved name whereas according to Institute of Systematic botany, Florida it is a synonym of L. serriola<\/i>.<\/span><\/p>\n

http:\/\/florida.plantatlas.usf.edu\/Plant.aspx?id=1804<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n
Incidentally L. serriola<\/i> L. is a much different plant.<\/span><\/div>\n
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Chaetoseris hastata from Chaklrata area:<\/a> Chaetoseris hastata<\/b><\/i> (Wall. ex DC.) C.Shih, Acta Phytotax. Sin. 29(5): 404 (1991)<\/p>\n

syn: Lactuca hastata<\/i> Wall. ex DC.; Cicerbita<\/i> cyanea<\/i> var. hastata<\/i> (Wall. ex DC.) Beauverd<\/div>\n
Tall perennial herb up to 2 m tall glabrescent below, glandular pubescent above especially in the inflorescence; leaves up to 30 cm long, petiole somewhat winged, blade pinnatifid with large terminal lobe, upper progressively smaller; heads bhluish-purple, 18-22 mm long, in panicles, on nodding peduncles; outer involucre bracts about half as long as inner ones, bristly hairy; florets 10-30; achenes elliptic or obovate, 6 mm long (including beak), with beak white as long as dark brown body; pappus 5-6 mm long, dirty white.<\/span><\/div>\n
The plant looks similar in appearance to Prenanthes brunoniana<\/i> but latter has only 3-5 florets in the head and achenes are not beaked.
\n<\/span>Common in Chakrata area<\/span> growing among shrubs.<\/span> Photographed <\/span>in September.<\/span><\/div>\n
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Thanks Sir mine also got name now<\/p>\n

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Botanical Code allows both, though names ending with -aceae and based on the name of a genus are to be preferred.<\/p>\n

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Asteraceae Fortnight Part 3-Ligulate heads: Chaetoseria hastata from Chakrata-NS 2<\/a> : Attachments (5). 3 posts by 2 authors.
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Thanks a lot Sir for confirmation and liking..<\/p>\n

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Asteraceae Fortnight Part 3-Ligulate heads (plus Misc.): Chaetoseris hastata from Chakrata-GS5<\/a> :\u00a0Attachments (4). 5 posts by 3 authors.<\/div>\n
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Chaetoseris hastata<\/i><\/b>\u00a0(Wall. ex DC.) C.Shih,\u00a0\u00a0Acta Phytotax. Sin. 29(5): 404 (1991)<\/p>\n

syn:\u00a0Lactuca hastata<\/i>\u00a0Wall. ex DC.;\u00a0\u00a0Cicerbita<\/i>\u00a0cyanea<\/i>\u00a0var.<\/span>\u00a0hastata<\/i>\u00a0(Wall. ex DC.) Beauverd<\/span>\u00a0<\/span>
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Tall perennial herb up to 2 m tall glabrescent below, glandular pubescent above especially in the inflorescence; leaves up to 30 cm long, petiole somewhat winged, blade pinnatifid with large terminal lobe, upper progressively smaller; heads bhluish-purple, 18-22 mm long, in panicles, on nodding peduncles; outer involucre bracts about half as long as inner ones, bristly hairy; florets 10-30; achenes elliptic or obovate, 6 mm long (including beak), with beak white as long as dark brown body; pappus 5-6 mm long, dirty white.<\/span>
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The plant looks similar in appearance to<\/span> Prenanthes brunoniana<\/span><\/i> but latter has only 3-5 florets in the head and achenes are not beaked.<\/span><\/span>
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Common in Chakrata area<\/span> growing among shrubs<\/span>. Photographed in September.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n
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Asteraceae Fortnight Part 3-Ligulate Heads (plus Misc.) Chaetoseris hastata from Kullu-GS18<\/a> : Attachments (4).\u00a01 post by 1 author.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Chaetoseris hastata<\/b> (Wall. ex DC.) C.Shih, Acta Phytotax. Sin. 29(5): 404 (1991)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

syn: Lactuca hastata<\/i> Wall. ex DC.; Cicerbita<\/i> cyanea<\/i> var.<\/span> hastata<\/i> (Wall. ex DC.) Beauverd<\/span> <\/span>
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Tall perennial herb up to 2 m tall glabrescent below, glandular pubescent above especially in the inflorescence; leaves up to 30 cm long, petiole somewhat winged, blade pinnatifid with large terminal lobe, upper progressively smaller; heads bhluish-purple, 18-22 mm long, in panicles, on nodding peduncles; outer involucre bracts about half as long as inner ones, bristly hairy; florets 10-30; achenes elliptic or obovate, 6 mm long (including beak), with beak white as long as dark brown body; pappus 5-6 mm long, dirty white.<\/span>
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The plant looks similar in appearance<\/span> to Prenanthes brunoniana<\/i><\/span> but latter has only 3-5 florets in the head and achenes are not beaked.<\/span><\/span>
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Common in Chakrata area<\/span> growing among shrubs<\/span>. Photographed in September.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n
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Cicerbita sp for ID?? — at Shakati – GHNP – PKA55<\/a> : 7 posts by 6 authors. Attachments<\/span> (6).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Seen this tall climbing herb<\/span> at Shakati at GHNP at an altitude of approx. 2250m.<\/span>
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Looks closer to Lactuca hastata<\/i>, not sure.<\/p>\n

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It looks me Lactuca hastata<\/i> too, I also snapped it below Chor at 2700m<\/span><\/p>\n

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I wonder if the local inhabitants have any culinary or medicinal uses for this lactuca\/ lettuce…<\/p>\n

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Chaetoseris<\/i>\u00a0cyanea<\/i>\u00a0(D.Don) C.Shih<\/p>\n

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I could not find keys \/ description of white\/yellow combination of this sp.<\/p>\n

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You have white versions of colured flowers in many species.<\/p>\n

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SK1657 19 Dec 2018<\/span><\/a> :\u00a08 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (7<\/span>)<\/span> – around 700 kb each.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Location :\u00a0Chandragiri\u00a0Hills, Kathmandu, Nepal<\/span><\/div>\n
Elevation : 8200 ft.
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Habit : Wild<\/span><\/div>\n
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https:\/\/sites.google.com\/site\/<\/span>efloraofindia\/species\/a—l\/<\/span>ar\/asteraceae\/cichorioideae\/<\/span>cichorieae\/melanoseris<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I did not find any match in the EFN.<\/div>\n
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Melanoseris bracteata<\/em> (Hook.f. & Thomson ex C.B.Clarke) N.Kilian ???<\/div>\n
Syn:\u00a0Lactuca bracteata<\/em> Hook.f. & Thomson ex C.B.Clarke<\/div>\n
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Yes, maybe though\u00a0I am not sure. Pl. see GBIF<\/span><\/a>.<\/div>\n
What is worrying me is the long inflorescence.<\/div>\n
Pl. see the longest I could find in GBIF is this specimen<\/span><\/a>.<\/div>\n
But I find there are wide variations in Lactuca<\/em><\/span><\/a>\/ <\/em>Melanoseris<\/em><\/span><\/a>
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No it might not be\u00a0Melanoseris bracteata\u00a0<\/i> as of plant morphology.
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Any suggestion of sp. besides Lactuca<\/em> ?<\/p>\n

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Melanoseris rapunculoides<\/em> Edgew.\u00a0 Syn : Cicerbita rapunculoides<\/em> (DC.) P. Beauv. ??<\/p>\n

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Looks different from Melanoseris rapunculoides<\/em> as per GBIF<\/span><\/a>.<\/p>\n

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Melanoseris cyanea<\/span><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

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Looks different !<\/p>\n

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Pedicle is very long in M. cyanea<\/em>.<\/p>\n

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Actually pedicel is not much long in M.cyanea please see illustration at<\/p>\n

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What we see in foi is likely a terminal capitula so it looks like having quite longer pedicel…
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Melanoseris cyanea<\/strong><\/em> Edgew.<\/div>\n
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Syn :\u00a0Cicerbita cyanea<\/em> (D. Don) P. Beauv.<\/p>\n

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Could<\/span> this be <\/span><\/span>M. cyanea<\/span><\/i><\/span>? Please advise<\/span>.<\/span><\/div>\n
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I feel this is Melanoseris cyanea<\/em> (D. Don) Edgew.<\/span><\/a>\u00a0only as per images and details herein and as per GBIF<\/span><\/a>– Specimen<\/span><\/a>.<\/p>\n

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Asteraceae Fortnight Part 3-Ligulate heads (plus Misc.): Cicerbita or Lactuca sp. 1 from Manali :: PKA1:<\/span><\/a>\u00a0:<\/div>\n
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This\u00a0small herb<\/span>\u00a0is from Chikka (9000 ft altitude) in Manali region.<\/div>\n
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Location:\u00a0Chikka (9000 ft altitude) on the way to Hampta Pass, Manali<\/span><\/div>\n
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Melanoseris cyanea<\/i>\u00a0!<\/p>\n

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Will you please check once for\u00a0Prenanthes serpentaria<\/em>\u00a0also.<\/p>\n

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Asteraceae Week (Part I \u2013 Radiate heads) ::Cicerbita sp?? from Manali :: PKA11:<\/a> :\u00a0\u00a0Attachments\u00a0(3). 4 posts by 3 authors.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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This small herb is\u00a0from Chikka (9000 ft altitude) in Manali region<\/span>. I remember,\u00a0 \u2026 has indicated the posiibility of this being \u201cCicerbita decipiens<\/i>\u201c.<\/div>\n
Date\/Time: 26-09-2010 \/ 04:00PM<\/div>\n
Location: Chikka (9000 ft altitude) on the way to Hampta Pass, Manali<\/div>\n
Habitat: Wild<\/span><\/div>\n
Plant Habit: Herb
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earlier discussion: <\/span>Cicerbita decipiens ?<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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This interesting plant <\/span>may not be a\u00a0Cicerbita<\/i>\u00a0species as the characteristic black hairs on involucral bracts are not visible.<\/span>\u00a0It may be a\u00a0<\/span>Lactuca<\/i> species<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Melanoseris cyanea (D.Don) Edgew. ??<\/p>\n

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ID request-141010-PKA1<\/a>\u00a0:\u00a0\u00a0Attachments\u00a0(3).\u00a07 posts by 4 authors.<\/div>\n
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Here is yet another flower From Chikka (9000 ft altitude) in Manali region.<\/div>\n
Date\/Time:\u00a026-09-2010 \/ 04:00PM<\/span><\/div>\n
Location:\u00a0Chikka (9000 ft altitude) on the way to Hampta Pass, Manali<\/span><\/div>\n
Habitat: Wild<\/span><\/div>\n
Plant Habit: Herb
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May be\u00a0Cicerbita decipiens
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\u201cThis interesting plant\u00a0may not be a\u00a0Cicerbita<\/i>\u00a0species as the characteristic black hairs on involucral bracts are not visible<\/span>. It may be a\u00a0Lactuca<\/i> species.<\/p>\n

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I feel this is Melanoseris cyanea<\/em> (D. Don) Edgew.<\/a> as per images herein.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Melanoseris cyanea Edgew.<\/a>\u00a0: 8 posts by 1 author.\u00a08 images- 4 to 7 mb each.<\/div>\n
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Location: Kathmandu\u00a0Valley
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Date: \u00a0October 2020\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n
Elevation: 2800m.<\/span><\/div>\n
Habitat \u00a0: Wild
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Fwd: Fw: Lactuca hastata ?<\/a>\u00a0: 4 posts by 1 author.<\/div>\n
Please confirm the species. Shot\u00a0below Chor at 3000m.<\/span>\u00a0along with the shady nallah\u00a0<\/span>on 22-9-14.
\n<\/span>It looks like\u00a0<\/span>Lactuca hastata<\/i>.<\/span><\/div>\n
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It does not look like <\/span>Chaetoseris hastata<\/span><\/a><\/em> (Syn. Lactuca hastata<\/em>).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Melanoseris cyanea<\/em> (D.Don) Edgew. ??<\/p>\n

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Melanoseris cyanea Edgew.<\/a>: 10 very high resolution images.<\/p>\n

Location: Chandragiri<\/span><\/div>\n
Date: November 2020<\/span><\/div>\n
Altitude: 2400m.
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\nSK 3228 14 September 2021<\/a>: 7 very high res. images.<\/p>\n
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Location: Jumla, West Nepal<\/span><\/div>\n
Altitude: 2500m.<\/span><\/div>\n
Date: 25 August 2021\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
Habit : Wild
\n<\/span>Melanoseris graciliflora<\/i>\u00a0<\/i>(Candolle) N. Kilian ??<\/span><\/div>\n
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Phyllaries look different from\u00a0Melanoseris graciliflora<\/i>\u00a0<\/i>(Candolle) N. Kilian as per\u00a0POWO<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0GBIF<\/a>\u00a0specimen-\u00a0one<\/a>,\u00a0two<\/a>
\n<\/span>It is\u00a0<\/span>Melanoseris cyanea<\/strong>\u00a0(D. Don) Edgew.<\/span><\/a>\u00a0(<\/span>Cicerbita cyanea<\/i>\u00a0(D. Don) P. Beauv. of\u00a0<\/span>Checklist of Nepal<\/a>) as per\u00a0<\/span>GBIF<\/a>\u00a0specimen-\u00a0<\/span>one<\/a>.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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OK …. I thought leaves are different.<\/p>\n

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\nSK 2932 29 July 2021<\/a>: 4 images.
\nLocation:\u00a0Kathmandu, Central Nepal<\/span>
\nAltitude: \u00a01400m.<\/span>
\nDate: 14 July 2021
\nHabit : Wild on pot.<\/span>
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Yes, possible with species like\u00a0Lactuca brunoniana<\/em>\u00a0(DC.) Wall. ex C.B.Clarke<\/a>\u00a0(with leaves highly variable).
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Are you following up on the plant?<\/p>\n

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Pl. also see discussion in another thread:\u00a0Identification required 8965<\/a> w.r.t.\u00a0<\/span>Parasenecio levingei<\/em> (C.B.Clarke) Karthik. & Moorthy<\/p>\n

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Melanoseris cyanea\u00a0<\/i>(D.Don) Edgew.<\/p>\n

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GRIN<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Flora of China<\/a>\u00a0 FOC illustration<\/a> The Plant List Ver.1.1<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0 India Biodiversity Portal<\/a>\u00a0 Checklist of Nepal<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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