{"id":1227917,"date":"2011-03-28T11:57:13","date_gmt":"2011-03-28T11:57:13","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2024-12-24T18:49:08","modified_gmt":"2024-12-24T13:19:08","slug":"saxifraga-moorcroftiana","status":"publish","type":"ht_kb","link":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/efi\/saxifraga-moorcroftiana\/","title":{"rendered":"Saxifraga moorcroftiana"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Saxifraga<\/i> moorcroftiana<\/i> Wall., Rev. Saxifrag. 28, pl. 24 1831<\/i>. (syn: Hirculus moorcroftianus<\/i> (Wall.) Losinsk.; Saxifraga diversifolia<\/i> var. moorcroftiana<\/i> Seringe; Saxifraga kuana<\/i> P.Yu. Zhmylev; Saxifraga lysimachioides<\/i> Klotzch; Saxifraga nyanangensis<\/i> J.T. Pan;Saxifraga reflexa<\/i> Ku);
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1. The bottom leaves on S. parnassifolia<\/i> have long hairy stalks (3-4 cm, photo 7967),<\/span> while those on\u00a0S. moorcroftiana<\/i> have barely a tiny winged stalk that is easy to miss.<\/span><\/div>\n
2. The petals of S. moorcroftiana<\/i> have red markings and are rounder <\/span>than those of S. parnassifolia<\/i>.<\/span><\/div>\n
3. The sepals on S. moorcroftiana<\/i> flowers are ovate, fringed with red glands<\/span> while those on S. parnassifolia<\/i> are more lanceolate and have translucent white glands.
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Saxifraga sp?? 121010-PKA1<\/a> : 9 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (5)<\/span><\/div>\n
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Came across this herb on the way to Hampta pass (Manali region).
\nDate\/Time: 27-09-2010 \/ 11:50AM
\nLocation: On the way to Hampta pass at the altitude of approx 12000 ft (Manali region).
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Is it Saxifraga caveana<\/i>\u00a0?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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I suppose S. moorcroftiana<\/i><\/p>\n

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Looks like Saxifraga aristulata<\/i> ? experts pl validate<\/p>\n

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S. aristulata<\/i> is a small tufted moss-like plant scarcely longer than 8 cm, leaves linear hardly 8 mm long and flowers single.<\/span><\/p>\n

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The choice seems be between Saxifraga moorcroftiana and S. parnassifolia. Stem leaves are clearly ovate, but not sure about basal leaves.<\/div>\n
Basal leaves broadly ovate, obtuse; leaf base subcordate…………………Saxifraga parnassifolia
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Based on the inputs that i received from the group members,\u00a0i was on look out for a erect saxifraga sp with leaves clasping stem, flowers bright yellow multiple flowers in a sort of cluster. After going thru the description in Polunin & Stainton, i think the closest match with this is “Saxifraga moorcroftiana<\/i>“. Also enclosing a link showing the flower type.. do have a look..
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Yes … Thanks for the link<\/p>\n

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Luckily I chanced upon a website, which may help us a lot in future. I has very good photographs of S. hirculus<\/i>.<\/div>\n
http:\/\/www.planetefleurs.fr\/Saxifraga_hirculus.htm<\/span><\/a>
\nThe species especially the var. indica<\/i> is characterised by smaller petals (1.5 to 2 times calyx) and stem with reddish hairs. This seems to agree with your plant, but leaves are much broader and almost ovate-cordate. Frankly speaking I am still not confident about this plant of yours: stem leaves of S. parnassifolia<\/i> and basal leaves of S. moorcroftiana<\/i>.<\/a><\/div>\n
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… is correct that this is Saxifraga moorcroftiana<\/i>. I have seen it abundantly on the Rohtang and another pass above Naggar in Kulu Valley – Hampta is between them.<\/span>\u00a0 Rohtang may well be the place where William Moorcroft collected it – the species is named after him. He reached Leh via what is now Himachal Pradesh.<\/span><\/div>\n
Stewart found Moorcroft’s Saxifrage<\/b> to be common in Kashmir @ 3000-4200m with records from above Gulmarg, Khelanmarg, Kolahoi, Sonamarg etc.<\/span><\/div>\n
Flowers of Himalaya says Pakistan to SW China on alpine slopes @ 3600-4500m.
\n<\/span>It is not <\/span>S.parnassifolia<\/i> (which I have seen in Nepal) which has not been recorded NW of Uttarakhand (according to ‘Flowers of Himalaya’ – though there is a somewhat dubious record from Kashmir). Nothing like <\/span>S.caveana, S.aristulata <\/i>or <\/span>S.hirculus<\/i>.<\/span><\/div>\n
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Well done …, you have photographed both S.moorcroftiana<\/i> and S.parnassifolia<\/i> in HP- which means that ‘Flowers of Himalaya’ is incorrect in the distribution of the latter species.<\/p>\n

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Thank you … I am happy to have found both in my part of the Himalaya.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Saxifraga sp. ABSEP2016\/29<\/a> : 5 posts by 2 authors.
\nFound a couple of plants of this Saxifrage at 3200 and above<\/span>. The red dots on the petals are conspicuous<\/span>. The habit and leaves (smaller) are similar to <\/span><\/span>S<\/span>. parnassifolia<\/span><\/i><\/span>. Could this be <\/span><\/span>S<\/span>. moorcroftiana<\/span><\/i><\/span><\/span>?<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n
Saxifraga moorcroftaiana<\/span><\/i>\u2014Moorcroft’s Saxifrage<\/b><\/span>?
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I think matches with images at Saxifraga moorcroftiana<\/i><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n

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Thank you … My images seem to match better with … images here<\/span><\/a>\u00a0where petals have red markings. Are those images validated to be S. moorcroftiana<\/i>?<\/p>\n

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Thanks, … There was some mixed up earlier. I have corrected them now. Pl. see Saxifraga moorcroftiana<\/i><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n

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This looks correct.\u00a0I have seen it on Rohtang and another pass in Kulu Valley.<\/span><\/div>\n
Stewart found Moorcroft’s Saxifrage<\/b> to be common in Kashmir @ 3000-4200m with records from above Gulmarg, Khelanmarg, Kolahoi, Sonamarg etc.
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Flowers of Himalaya says Pakistan to SW China on alpine slopes<\/span> @ 3600-4500m.<\/span><\/div>\n
I do not consider it to be\u00a0S.parnassifolia<\/i> (which I have seen in Nepal) which has not been recorded NW of Uttarakhand (according to ‘Flowers of Himalaya’ – though there is a somewhat dubious record from Kashmir).\u00a0Flowers of Himalaya distinguishes S.parnassifolia<\/i> from S.moorcroftiana<\/i> on the basis of basal leaves broadly ovate with heart-shaped base<\/span> (narrowed to leaf-stalk in S.moorcroftiana<\/i>)<\/span> with upper leaves triangular heart-shaped with clasping rounded lobes with smaller petals 5-7mm).<\/span> One cannot make out the basal or upper leaves in the photos or judge the length of petals but think the 7-10mm for S.moorcroftiana<\/i> more likely.<\/div>\n
Flowers of Himalaya says 3600-4500m<\/span> – the lower limit is quite a bit higher than where this was photographed but the part of the Rohtang I saw what I consider to be S.moorcroftiana<\/i>, growing abundantly was close to 3100m (or perhaps even lower).\u00a0 Stewart’s information for Kashmir of 3000m is likely to be correct.<\/span> Enumeration of the Flowering Plants of Nepal (the main reference for ‘Flowers of the Himalaya’ with the Natural History Museum in London being the authors’ reference herbarium, gives a lower limit of 2400m, so clearly a mistake was made in Polunin & Stainton’s book – there are a number, not many but they do exist; we all make mistakes).<\/span><\/div>\n
Collet called a plant he found to be rare at Shimla but common at Mushobra and Mahasu Saxifraga diversifolia<\/i>. He considered it “typical” S. parnassifolia<\/i>.\u00a0He thought S.moorcroftiana<\/i> which grew on the “Chor” was much taller and more robust with lanceolate or oblong leaves 5-10cm long,\u00a0FBI included both under S.diversifolia<\/i>.\u00a0 Clearly, there has been confusion and differences of opinion about separating these species.
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VoF Week: Saxifraga parnassifolia from Valley:<\/a>\u00a08 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (4)
\n<\/span>Saxifraga parnassifolia<\/i> from<\/span> Valley
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Any photographs with lower leaves in focus please???<\/p>\n

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Sir Sorry I could not have more photograph. This was my second attempt with my Nikon D 5100. First time results were very bad (May 2012 Chakrata Visit) So i have to use old Canon one at that time. This time I tried to learn something from …, …, .. and … about using DSLR. So Most of the time i spent in setting the camera in manual mode. Hope next time I will use D5100 properly and will take multiple shots.<\/p>\n

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Sir I could some more pics
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I thought we should exclude S. moorcroftiana<\/i> which only basal leaves can do.<\/p>\n

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This is Saxifraga moorcroftiana<\/i>. In addition to the differences between this and S.moorcroftiana<\/i> given in ‘Flowers of the Himalaya’, the assorted images of both species posted on this site and my own images of S.moorcroftiana<\/i> have shown clear differences.\u00a0S.parnassifolia<\/span><\/i> has more rounded \/circular petals with 2 noticeable ‘appendages’ at the base of petals.<\/span> <\/span>S.moorcroftiana<\/i> does not have the appendages but typically markings on the interior of the petals which are narrower, a markedly different shape.
\n<\/span><\/span>Both species are recorded for this region.\u00a0Other than that, I think, given that not only has there been confusion between the two species historically, that has continued to this day, as shown by the postings on this site, quoting what the floras and references have to say is pointless.\u00a0 I feel I have built up the better understanding – thanks to viewing plants in the wild and the other images seen thanks to eFI.\u00a0 This is superior to pressed specimens alone in herbaria…..<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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VOF Week: Herb for id from Ghanghariya-Hemkunt trek:<\/a>
\nThis small herb was shot from near Hemkunt Sahib<\/span> on the trek, is this a Saxifraga<\/i> sp. ?<\/p>\n

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Saxifraga parnassifolia<\/i> I hope<\/p>\n

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May be Saxifraga brachypoda<\/i> var fimbriata<\/i> ?????<\/p>\n

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Saxifraga brachypoda<\/i> var. fimbriata<\/i>, now correctly known as S. wallichiana<\/i> belong to the section spinulosae in which leaves are acute, narrower and spinose tipped<\/span> as can also be seen from description and illustration on Flora of China.<\/div>\n
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Above plant seems to have much broader obtuse leaves, sepals are broader and obtuse and petals without two callosities, and petal margins not fimbriate.
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Saxifraga parnassifolia<\/i>.<\/p>\n

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This is Saxifraga moorcroftiana<\/i>. In addition to the differences between this and S.moorcroftiana<\/i> given in ‘Flowers of the Himalaya’, the assorted images of both species posted on this site and my own images of S.moorcroftiana<\/i> have shown clear differences.\u00a0S.parnassifolia<\/span><\/i> has more rounded \/circular petals with 2 noticeable ‘appendages’ at the base of petals.<\/span> <\/span>S.moorcroftiana<\/i> does not have the appendages but typically markings on the interior of the petals which are narrower, a markedly different shape.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n
Both species are recorded for this region.\u00a0Other than that, I think, given that not only has there been confusion between the two species historically, that has continued to this day, as shown by the postings on this site, quoting what the floras and references have to say is pointless.\u00a0 I feel I have built up the better understanding – thanks to viewing plants in the wild and the other images seen thanks to eFI.\u00a0 This is superior to pressed specimens alone in herbaria…..<\/div>\n
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This is one more set of pics of Saxifraga parnassifolia (??) spotted en-route Dhel pass at GHNP at an altitude of approx. 3600m.<\/span>
\nBot. name: Saxifraga parnassifolia<\/i> ?? (Pl. validate ID)<\/span>
\nFamily: Saxifragaceae<\/i>
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This is Saxifraga moorcroftiana<\/i>. In addition to the differences between this and S.moorcroftiana<\/i> given in ‘Flowers of the Himalaya’, the assorted images of both species posted on this site and my own images of S.moorcroftiana<\/i> have shown clear differences.\u00a0S.parnassifolia<\/span><\/i> has more rounded \/circular petals with 2 noticeable ‘appendages’ at the base of petals.<\/span> <\/span>S.moorcroftiana<\/i> does not have the appendages but typically markings on the interior of the petals which are narrower, a markedly different shape.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n
Both species are recorded for this region. Other than that, I think, given that not only has there been confusion between the two species historically, that has continued to this day, as shown by the postings on this site, quoting what the floras and references have to say is pointless.\u00a0 I feel I have built up the better understanding – thanks to viewing plants in the wild and the other images seen thanks to eFI.\u00a0 This is superior to pressed specimens alone in herbaria…..<\/div>\n
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\nSaxifraga parnassifolia ?? set-1 — en-route Dhel Pass – GHNP – PKA72<\/a> :\u00a0\u00a02 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (6).<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

Seen this herb<\/span> en-route Dhel pass at GHNP at an altitude of approx. 3600m.<\/span>
\nBot. name: Saxifraga parnassifolia<\/i> ?? (Pl. validate ID)
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This is Saxifraga moorcroftiana<\/i>. In addition to the differences between this and S.moorcroftiana<\/i> given in ‘Flowers of the Himalaya’, the assorted images of both species posted on this site and my own images of S.moorcroftiana<\/i> have shown clear differences.\u00a0 S.parnassifolia<\/span><\/i> has more rounded \/circular petals with 2 noticeable ‘appendages’ at the base of petals.<\/span> <\/span>S.moorcroftiana<\/i> does not have the appendages but typically markings on the interior of the petals which are narrower, a markedly different shape.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n
Both species are recorded for this region.\u00a0 Other than that, I think, given that not only has there been confusion between the two species historically, that has continued to this day, as shown by the postings on this site, quoting what the floras and references have to say is pointless.\u00a0 I feel I have built up the better understanding – thanks to viewing plants in the wild and the other images seen thanks to eFI.\u00a0 This is superior to pressed specimens alone in herbaria…..<\/div>\n
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Fwd: Saxifraga moorcroftiana (Moorcroft’s Saxifrage) in Kashmir<\/a> : 1 post by 1 author. Attachments (1)<\/span><\/div>\n
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Only took a single shot of this Saxifrage<\/i> whilst walking down from Khelanmarg along a stream<\/span> towards Gulmarg.<\/span><\/div>\n
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The markings on the petals seem distinctive to me. Saxifraga moorcroftiana<\/i> rather than S.parnassifolia<\/i>.
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Saxifraga diversifolia in FOI<\/span><\/a> : 3 posts by 2 authors.<\/div>\n
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Images of Saxifraga diversifolia\u00a0in FOI<\/span><\/a>\u00a0by \u2026 should be of\u00a0Saxifraga moorcroftiana<\/em><\/span><\/a> as per comparative images of Pistil as per the following:<\/div>\n
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Saxifraga moorcroftiana ABSEP2017\/02<\/a> : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (16)<\/span><\/div>\n
I had filed this species last year here<\/span><\/a>. Following insightful\u00a0 comments by Chris Chadwell and looking into various descriptions I decided to look into the species in a little more detail. I found several plants growing along with the similar looking S. parnassifolia<\/i> on the southwestern slope near Ilaqa. I made comparative photographs to see the difference clearly and hope that this removes any confusion that these to are two distinct species.<\/div>\n
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1. The bottom leaves on S. parnassifolia<\/i> have long hairy stalks (3-4 cm, photo 7967),<\/span> while those on\u00a0S. moorcroftiana<\/i> have barely a tiny winged stalk that is easy to miss.<\/span><\/div>\n
2. The petals of S. moorcroftiana<\/i> have red markings and are rounder <\/span>than those of S. parnassifolia<\/i>.<\/span><\/div>\n
3. The sepals on S. moorcroftiana<\/i> flowers are ovate, fringed with red glands<\/span> while those on S. parnassifolia<\/i> are more lanceolate and have translucent white glands.<\/span><\/div>\n
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Thank you once again. I am happy to sort out some confusion regarding the species growing here.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb5B for Id- JM – efloraofindia | Google Groups<\/span><\/a>: (Mixed thread): 5 posts by 3 authors. 2 correct images as above<\/span>
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I think Saxifraga moorcroftiana<\/i><\/p>\n

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Saxifraga moorcroftiana<\/i> Wall. Numer. List [Wallich] n. 453.
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… was correct to have doubts. This is Saxifraga parnassifolia<\/i>. In addition to the differences between this and S.moorcroftiana<\/i> given in ‘Flowers of the Himalaya’, the assorted images of both species posted on this site and my own images of S.moorcroftiana<\/i> have shown clear differences.\u00a0S.parnassifolia<\/i> has more rounded \/circular petals with 2 noticeable ‘appendages’ at the base of petals. <\/span>S.moorcroftiana<\/i> does not have the appendages but typically markings on the interior of the petals which are narrower, a markedly different shape.
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These are of\u00a0Saxifraga moorcroftiana<\/a><\/em>, as per images and details herein.<\/div>\n
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Yellow flowers for ID :: Govindghat-Ghangria, Uttarakhand :: Aug 2018 :: ARKSEP-06<\/a> : 18 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (8<\/span>)<\/span><\/div>\n
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Requested to please ID these yellow flowers seen on the way from Govindghat to Ghangria in August 2018.<\/span> They were clicked at various places on the way.<\/div>\n
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On going through the Saxifragaceae<\/i> pages in efi, this seems to be Saxifraga parnassifolia<\/i>.<\/p>\n

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I guess it is matching. Thank you. Saroj Kasaju<\/div>\n
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I guess you mean it is matching with S. parnassifolia<\/i>.<\/div>\n
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I think more closer to images and details at Saxifraga moorcroftiana<\/i><\/span><\/a>\u00a0rather than those at Saxifraga parnassifolia<\/i><\/span><\/a><\/div>\n
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Saxifraga diversifolia<\/i> to me.<\/div>\n
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Thanks … Is S. diversifolia<\/i> a syn. of S. moorcroftiana<\/i>?<\/p>\n

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First four images are of Saxifraga parnassifolia<\/i><\/span><\/a><\/div>\n
Last four images may be of Saxifraga diversifolia<\/i>, as ided by\u00a0… as per the following:<\/span><\/div>\n
https:\/\/www.flowersofindia.Diverse-LeavedSaxifrage.html<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n
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On further consideration, the last three images are of\u00a0Saxifraga moorcroftiana<\/a><\/em>, as per images and details herein.
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The 1st 4 images are different than the last 4.<\/div>\n
The last 4 pics have some kind of red glands on the fringes.<\/div>\n
Attached is a copy of what I meant.<\/div>\n
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The first 4 agree with the S. parnassifloia<\/em> pics on efi, the last 4 S. moorcroftiana<\/em>.
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