{"id":1256654,"date":"2016-11-07T06:31:04","date_gmt":"2016-11-07T06:31:04","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2024-12-24T18:23:34","modified_gmt":"2024-12-24T12:53:34","slug":"veronica-chamaedrys","status":"publish","type":"ht_kb","link":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/efi\/veronica-chamaedrys\/","title":{"rendered":"Veronica chamaedrys (Europe)"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Veronica<\/i> chamaedrys<\/i> L., Sp. Pl. 13 1753<\/i>.;<\/div>\n
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Veronica filiformis<\/em><\/p>\n
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V. chamaedrys<\/em><\/p>\n
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Plant for ID :: Salzburg, AT :: EU-ARKOCT34<\/a>\u00a0: 5 posts by 3 authors.\u00a0Attachments (5)<\/span>
\nWe saw this flower (what I believe is <\/span>Veronica persica<\/i>) <\/span>growing wild at 2 places<\/span> – near Zurich, CH and near Salzburg, Austria in May 2016,
\n<\/span>Requested to please validate the ID.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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This is a speedwell… most probably\u00a0Germander Speedwell<\/b>. Veronica chamaedrys<\/i>.<\/p>\n

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A reply from David ji:
\nYour pics of <\/span>V. filiformis<\/em> are –
\n<\/span>https:\/\/08511630493324166816.<\/span>googlegroups.com\/attach\/NkVw<\/a>
\nhttps:\/\/08511630493324166816.<\/span>googlegroups.com\/attach\/sULw<\/a>
\nNot sure of the other 3 which might be <\/span>V. chamaedrys<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Thank you … for the correction in the ID. <\/span>Based on the description provided by you in <\/span>another similar post of mine<\/span><\/a>, all pics belong to <\/span>V. filiformis<\/em> and not <\/span>V. chamedrys<\/em>.<\/span><\/p>\n

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No, \u2026 They are different. Pl. check the leaves.<\/div>\n
What is stated by \u2026 is correct.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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V. chamaedrys<\/em><\/p>\n
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V. filiformis\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n
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Plant for ID :: Vienna, AT :: EU-ARKOCT38<\/span><\/a> : 8 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (9)
\n<\/span>These were seen <\/span>in the Vienna<\/span> castle grounds<\/span>. <\/span>Pics taken in May 2016.
\n<\/span>They look like <\/span>Veronica persica<\/i> (but a bit bigger). Requested to provide ID.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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One of the Speedwell’s, possibly\u00a0Veronica chamaedrys<\/i><\/p>\n

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some sort of Ehrenpreis<\/p>\n

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This is a Veronica<\/i> species.\u00a0Possibly V. chamaedrys<\/i><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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A reply from David ji:<\/div>\n
“some of these pictures are of Veronica filiformis<\/em><\/span> (you should check you don’t have something very similar looking). You’ll see they have small roundish leaves (smaller or equal to the flower), long flower stalks, and tend to lack the white\/pale petal edging that V. chamaedrys<\/em> has, and there’s a pale purpliness to their flower colour different from typical bluey V. chamaedrys<\/em>.”<\/div>\n
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On looking at the timestamp on the pics, there are 2 sets of flowers clicked at 2 different locations, seemingly very close to each other (clicked 4 minutes apart).<\/div>\n
The first set is more blue than purple – names of pics ending 9071, 9072, 9073, 9074, 9075 – they should be V. chamaedrys<\/em><\/span><\/div>\n
The second set is more purple – names of pics ending with 9081, 9082,9083, 9084 – they should be V. filiformis<\/em>.<\/span><\/div>\n
Thank you \u2026 for explaining the differences so nicely and also for noticing that there are 2 species in this post.<\/div>\n
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References:
\n<\/span>Catalogue of Life<\/a>\u00a0 The Plant List Ver.1.1<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0IPNI<\/a> \u00a0Wikipedia<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0PFAF<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0luontoportti<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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