{"id":1274476,"date":"2011-03-26T13:09:58","date_gmt":"2011-03-26T13:09:58","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2024-12-24T18:49:40","modified_gmt":"2024-12-24T13:19:40","slug":"ranunculus-pulchellus-var-longicaulis","status":"publish","type":"ht_kb","link":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/efi\/ranunculus-pulchellus-var-longicaulis\/","title":{"rendered":"Ranunculus longicaulis"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Ranunculus longicaulis<\/b> \u0421.\u0410. \u041c\u0435\u0443. in Ledebour, Fl. Alt. 2: 308. 1830<\/em>. (Syn: Ranunculus gramineus<\/em> Spreng. (ambiguous synonym); Ranunculus nephelogenes<\/em> var. longicaulis<\/i> (C.A.Mey.) W.T.Wang (ambiguous synonym); Ranunculus pulchellus<\/em> var. longicaulis<\/i> (C.A.Mey.) Hook.fil. & T. (ambiguous synonym)) as per Catalogue of life<\/a>;<\/div>\n
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R. pulchellus<\/strong> var. longicaulis<\/strong> (India: Kashmir (Ladakh), Himachal Pradesh (Pangi, Spiti Valley), Sikkim<\/span>; Pakistan)<\/span> as per Srivastava SK (2010) Revision of genus Ranunculus L.(Ranunculaceae) in India. Taiwania<\/i> 55(3): 273-314. [Full text<\/span><\/a>\u00a0with line diagrams]; <\/span><\/div>\n
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Siberia (W-Siberia, C-Siberia), Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Mongolia, Afghanistan (Badakshan, Wakhan, Wardak, Parwan),<\/span> Pakistan (Chitral), Jammu & Kashmir (Zanskar), ?NW-India (?Lahul) <\/span>as per Catalogue of life<\/span><\/a>;<\/div>\n
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Common name:<\/b> Long-Stem Buttercup
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ID for Leh Flowers 8a & 8b<\/a> :\u00a0\u00a020 posts by 5 authors. Attachments (2).
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… not familiar with Himalayan flora … but finding … plant different from … the leaves and flower (petals) differ … could be yet wrong.<\/p>\n

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\nFlora of China writes this as a synonym of Oxygraphis endlicheri<\/i> (Walpers) Bennet & Sumer Chandra, Indian
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There is real confusion here. The plant uploaded by … is clearly Ranunculus<\/i> (see five petals and five petaloid sepals), it is precisely R. pulchellus<\/i>, common at higher altitudes.
\nThe plant uploaded by …, is however, <\/span>Oxygraphis polypetala<\/i>. kindly note nearly 13 or more petals (characteristic of this genus) and nearly orbicular leaves.
\n<\/span>Attaching my herbarium specimen of<\/span> R. pulchellus<\/i> from Ladakh.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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I may be wrong though. This sketch is from eflora of China.<\/p>\n

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On second thought, I doubt your plant to be Ranunculus pulchellus<\/i>.
\nLeaf margin is supposed to be lobed in pulchellus<\/i> and the flower is supposed to be solitary, but yours is entire with branched inflorescence.<\/span>
\nI may be wrong though, but I thought your plant could be new record for India, Ranunculus nephelogenes<\/i> var. longicaulis<\/i>.<\/p>\n

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Flora of British India places this species in a group with entire leaves with a note sometimes lobed in R. pulchellus.<\/i> As such entire leaves are a rule and lobed an aberration.<\/span> I have many more specimens of this from Ladakh near Leh. Flora of China also writes leaves sometimes three-lobed.<\/span> Please read the key from 64 to 67 carefully.<\/p>\n

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I am hesitant to agree with this. I am talking about your herbarium and not\u00a0… plant!! I still say, I may be wrong……<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Stems 15\u201320 cm; blades of basal leaves ovate, elliptic, or obovate, base broadly cuneate or cuneate, 1\u20133-denticulate on each side …. R. pulchellus<\/b><\/span><\/div>\n
Blade of basal leaf not divided; Petal apex rounded; leaf blade of basal leaf ovate, narrowly ovate, oblong, or linear-lanceolate ………. R. nephelogenes.<\/b><\/span><\/div>\n
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Thanks … What a coincidence. After reading your earlier mails I went through the whole key starting from begining and imagine where I reached: R. nephelogenes<\/i> var. longicaulis<\/i>, the variety with petals almost equalling sepals. The description matched. I went back to Flora of British India India and found Ranunculus longicaulis<\/i> listed as a synonym of R. pulchellus
\n<\/i><\/span>So following a more recent publication, … plant is <\/span>Ranunculus nephelogenes<\/i> var. <\/span>longicaulis
\n<\/i>Thanks for your critical analysis which led me to rethink and research further,
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Thanks a lot for resolving the issue finally. One of my biggest problem is, I dont get taxonomically satisfied so easily, and secondly, I dont start well if it is not an orchid.<\/p>\n

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Let us wish we have many more such fruitful interactions. Can you please check from Indian revision of Ranunculaceae (Fascicles or any other recent one) the status of this taxon? Obviously FBI considered this as mere variation of R. pulchellus<\/i>.<\/p>\n

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I will try to check, but unfortunately, we dont have all th fascicles here at WII. Will check and let you know soon.<\/p>\n

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I think I found something exactly what you are looking for.
\nSo our plant is Ranunculus pulchellus<\/b> C.A. Mey. var. longicaulis<\/b> (C.A. Mey.) Hook. f. & Thomson
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Thanks a lot … for such a useful revision of Indian Ranunculus<\/p>\n

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Though everything in the discussions was difficult to digest at one go we are enjoyed it.
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That is why I love this group. The discussions are often intense and so fruitful, and results achieved so fast. In this particular case … spent whole night awake and I the day time to achieve a mutually agreed identification.
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Wild flower for ID (03\/07\/2011 NSJ-03):<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n
Location – Near Panamik Hot springs, Nubra Valley, Ladakh
\nAltitude – 14000 feet (Approx)<\/span>
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Ranunculus flamula??<\/a> : 26 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (1<\/span>)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Location : Zara Valley, Ladakh<\/span><\/div>\n
Elevation : 5000m.
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I think\u00a0may be\u00a0different from Ranunculus flammula<\/em> as I can not see the upper leaves in this image (also details are not clear) as per<\/div>\n
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https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/<\/span>Ranunculus_flammula<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n
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Ranunculus pulchellus<\/em> I hope if flowers are 1.5 cm across, basal leaves less than 5 cm long,\u00a0 cauline mostly 3-lobed; or if flowers 3 cm across, basal leaves 7-10 cm long disappearing before flowering, cauline up to 30 cm long, mostly entire then R. lingua<\/em>.<\/p>\n

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I am convinced that Ranunculus flammula<\/i> does not reach the Himalayas. This is most likely Ranunculus pulchellus<\/i> or Ranunculus longicaulis<\/i> (sometimes treated as a subspecies of the former).<\/p>\n

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Ranunculus pulchellus<\/strong><\/em> seems good
\nRanunculus flammula<\/em> D. Don (non L.) is the synonym
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Thanks, … There is another one Ranunculus flammula<\/em> L., which is an accepted name as per POWO<\/span><\/a>, Catalogue of Life<\/span><\/a> and The Plant List Ver. 1.1<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Yes … Our plant is R. flamula<\/em> Don, not L.<\/p>\n

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1a. Basal leaves margin ciliate, petioles hairy …. 24.3 var. stracheyanum<\/strong>
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\n2a. Cauline leaves long, linear; stylar beak straight with broad apex ……1 var. longicaulis<\/strong>
\nb. Cauline leaves narrowly elliptic; stylar beak recurved with narrow apex \u2026 24.2 var. pulchellus
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R. nephelogenes<\/em> Edgew\u00a0is the synonym of R. pulchellus<\/strong> according to this 2010 revision\u00a0Revision of Genus Ranunculus L. (Ranunculaceae) in India\u00a0Taiwania, 55(3): 273-314, 2010 by R. K. Srivastava.<\/p>\n

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Some anthors have included plants with linear leaves of higher altitudes under\u00a0<\/span>Ranunculus nephelgenes<\/i>\u00a0at K. It is not clear whether plants from Pakistan designated as\u00a0<\/span>Ranunculus pulchellus<\/i>\u00a0var.\u00a0<\/span>longicaulis<\/i><\/span>\u00a0(C.A. Mey.) Hook.f. & Thoms. with small flowers of less than 1 cm in diameter are identical with the species described by C.A. Meyer<\/span>.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Thanks, …, I think this is Ranunculus longicaulis<\/em><\/span><\/a>\u00a0as per images, references\u00a0and details herein.<\/div>\n
Ranunculus pulchellus<\/em><\/span><\/a>\u00a0looks different as per images, references\u00a0and details herein.<\/div>\n
Pl. see FoC illustration<\/span><\/a>\u00a0(which gives better appreciation) and discussions at ID for Leh Flowers 8a & 8b<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n
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Ranunculus nephelogenes in FOI<\/a> : 5 posts by 1 author.<\/div>\n
Image by Thingam ji of Ranunculus nephelogenes in FOI<\/span><\/a>, may be of Ranunculus longicaulis<\/em><\/span> \u0421.\u0410. \u041c\u0435\u0443.<\/span><\/a>\u00a0(syn: Ranunculus nephelogenes<\/em> var. longicaulis<\/i> (C.A.Mey.) W.T.Wang), which only is reported from the area in Srivastava SK (2010) Revision of genus Ranunculus L.(Ranunculaceae) in India. Taiwania<\/i> 55(3): 273-314. [Full text<\/span><\/a>\u00a0with line diagrams]<\/div>\n
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References:<\/div>\n
Catalogue of life<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n
Srivastava SK (2010) Revision of genus Ranunculus L.(Ranunculaceae) in India. Taiwania<\/i> 55(3): 273-314. [<\/span>Full text<\/span><\/a>\u00a0with line diagrams]<\/span><\/div>\n
Records of Ranunculus longicaulis and R. pseudohirculus (Ranunculaceae) from Nepal<\/span><\/a> by Andrey S. Erst* and Alexander P. Sukhorukov – Taiwania, 56(3): 218-222, 2011 218\u00a0 <\/span>efi thread<\/span><\/a>\u00a0 <\/span>EOL\u00a0<\/span><\/a>\u00a0<\/span>Flora of China<\/span><\/a>\u00a0 <\/span>FOC illustration<\/span><\/a>\u00a0 <\/span>Flora of Pakistan<\/span><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0<\/span>Annotated checklist of Flowering plants of Nepal<\/span><\/a>\u00a0 <\/span>Tropicos<\/span><\/a>\u00a0 <\/span>The Plant List Ver.1.1<\/span><\/a>\u00a0 <\/span>Flowers of India<\/span><\/a>\u00a0 <\/span>India Biodiversity Portal<\/span><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Ranunculus longicaulis \u0421.\u0410. \u041c\u0435\u0443. in Ledebour, Fl. Alt. 2: 308. 1830. (Syn: Ranunculus gramineus Spreng. (ambiguous synonym); Ranunculus nephelogenes var. longicaulis (C.A.Mey.) W.T.Wang (ambiguous synonym); Ranunculus pulchellus var. longicaulis (C.A.Mey.) Hook.fil. & T. (ambiguous synonym)) as per Catalogue of life; . R. pulchellus var. longicaulis (India: Kashmir (Ladakh), Himachal Pradesh…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"ht-kb-category":[5743],"ht-kb-tag":[],"class_list":["post-1274476","ht_kb","type-ht_kb","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","ht_kb_category-ranunculus"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/ht-kb\/1274476","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/ht-kb"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/ht_kb"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1274476"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/ht-kb\/1274476\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1274476"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"ht_kb_category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/ht-kb-category?post=1274476"},{"taxonomy":"ht_kb_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/ht-kb-tag?post=1274476"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}