{"id":1354093,"date":"2012-02-28T11:38:39","date_gmt":"2012-02-28T11:38:39","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2024-12-24T13:06:26","modified_gmt":"2024-12-24T07:36:26","slug":"aster-thomsonii","status":"publish","type":"ht_kb","link":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/efi\/aster-thomsonii\/","title":{"rendered":"Aster thomsonii"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Aster<\/i> thomsonii<\/i> C.B.Clarke, 48 1876<\/i>. (Syn: Aster<\/i> flexuosus<\/i> (Royle ex DC.) Kuntze<\/span><\/a> [Illegitimate]; Kalimeris<\/i> flexuosa<\/i> Royle ex DC.<\/span><\/a>\u00a0(Unresolved));<\/div>\n
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Perennial herb up to 90 cm tall, rough hairy, branched; leaves ovate to elliptic 5-10 cm long, coarsely toothed, clasping at base; heads solitary at ends of branches, 4-5 cm across, with purple spreading ray florets up to 2 cm long; involucre bracts linear-lanceolate, hairy, leafy; achene hairy, longer than pappus.<\/span><\/div>\n
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Chamba heights al190811a … id please..:<\/a> this looked like the Daisies we find towards Kalatope except the leaves\u00a0are very different ..<\/div>\n
Location Chamba
\nAltitude 3500 mts
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It is clearly Aster<\/i>, but to identify the species we should have some\u00a0details. Diameter of head\/flower is the minimum we expect to do that.<\/p>\n

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This could be Aster thomsonii,<\/i> found at altitudes of 2100-3000 m.<\/p>\n

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Yes sessile almost clasping leaves<\/span> do suggest Aster thomsoni<\/i>.<\/p>\n

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\nAsteraceae Fortnight Part 1-Radiate heads: Aster thomsoni from Chakrata- GS28<\/a> :\u00a0\u00a0Attachments (3).\u00a0\u00a01 post by 1 author.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

Aster thomsoni<\/i> Clarke<\/div>\n
Perennial herb up to 90 cm tall, rough hairy, branched; leaves ovate to elliptic 5-10 cm long, coarsely toothed, clasping at base; heads solitary at ends of branches, 4-5 cm across, with purple spreading ray florets up to 2 cm long; involucre bracts linear-lanceolate, hairy, leafy; achene hairy, longer than pappus.
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\nASTERACEAE Fortnight Part-I Radiate Heads May 1-14: Aster thomsonii from Uttarakhand_DSR_14<\/a> : Attachments (1). 1 post by 1 author.
\n<\/span><\/span><\/span>Aster thomsonii<\/i><\/span> C.B.Clarke <\/i>is a <\/span>temperate Aster in shady areas<\/span> of Western Himalaya.
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Asteraceae Fortnight Part I-Radiate Heads: Aster thomsonii? from Chakrata- NS 65<\/a> :\u00a0\u00a0Attachments (8). 2 posts by 2 authors.
\nPlease validate if this one is <\/span>Aster thomsonii<\/i>… shot<\/span> from Chakrata area..<\/span><\/div>\n
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Aster thomsonii ABSEP2016\/37<\/a> : 3 posts by 2 authors. 4 images.<\/div>\n
After finding a couple of plants at 2450m I was hoping to find more higher up but to my surprise I didn’t encounter a single flowering plant. Either these ones are early and the others will flower sometime soon, or there is only a small localised population. Please validate<\/span>.<\/span><\/div>\n
I assume the violet-blue flower heads fade into white with age<\/span>.<\/span><\/div>\n
Aster thomsonii
\n<\/span><\/span><\/i>Mcleodganj-Triund, HP\u00a0 2450m approx. 10-11 September 2016<\/span><\/div>\n
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I think matches with images at <\/span>Aster thomsonii<\/i><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Some additional photos from Sunday, 9 October<\/span>. The teeth on the leaves can vary from coarse to none.
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Yes, these images seem to match Aster thomsonii<\/i> well. Some Asters are very difficult to name.<\/div>\n
The Supplement to Flowers of the Himalaya has a photo but there is only a description in the main FOH – they say forests & shrubberies @ 2100-3000m.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n
According to Collet this was<\/span> common in woods<\/span> at Shimla.
\n<\/span>Stewart records it from N.Pakistan & Kashmir where it is common in Sind & Lidder Valleys through to Kishtwar @ 2300-3350m<\/span>, <\/span>commenting that the leaves are sessile or nearly so.<\/span><\/div>\n
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Aster thomsonii AT MAR 2017\/23<\/a> : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3)<\/span><\/div>\n
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Asteraceae for ID ABAUG2017\/30<\/a> : 10 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (7)<\/span><\/div>\n
I saw a lone plant among the Rhododendron campanulatum<\/i> on 28 July and saw more such plants on my two subsequent trips to Ilaqa and beyond. The two-tier ray-florets point to an Erigeron<\/i> species. These plants were about 40-50cm tall with large individual flowers (5-6cm across) at the end of stems. Please help identify it.<\/div>\n
Erigeron<\/i> sp.?<\/div>\n
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Snowline and Ilaqa, Dharamshala, HP<\/span><\/div>\n
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Pl. try to check comparative images at efi site on genus and subfamily page, if already not done so.<\/p>\n

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Thank you … I did check but didn\u2019t come close to an ID. Erigeron<\/i> is very likely but it\u2019s a variable genus.<\/p>\n

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Also tried comparative images at\u00a0\u200e<\/i>Astereae<\/i><\/span><\/a>\u00a0but could not find a match.<\/p>\n

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Thomson’s Aster<\/b>
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I think it may be Aster<\/i> spp. found on temperate area.<\/p>\n

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Should be Aster thomsonii<\/i><\/p>\n

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Thank you … You are right, my sample is most likely Aster thomsonii<\/i>. I convinced myself otherwise because the A. thomsonii<\/i> plants I know from lower altitudes haven’t yet flowered and most had a cluster of flowers simultaneously last year (efi thread<\/span><\/a>).<\/div>\n
Do plants at higher altitude flower first in this species?
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Asteraceae Fortnight Part I-Radiate Heads: Aster sp. 2 from Chakrata- NS 66<\/a> : Attachments (5).\u00a0\u00a05 posts by 2 authors.
\n<\/span>Please help to id this species<\/span> from Chakrata area..<\/span><\/div>\n
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Pl. look Aster peduncularis<\/i>.<\/p>\n

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Thanks … for the help.. will try to ascertain..<\/p>\n

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Herb sp. in POWO and GBIF looks matching !<\/p>\n

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Cordiofontis thomsonii\u00a0<\/i>(C.B.Clarke) Nesom Syn :\u00a0Aster thomsonii\u00a0<\/i>C.B.Clarke ??<\/p>\n

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Both\u00a0Aster peduncularis<\/a><\/em>\u00a0and\u00a0Aster thomsonii<\/a>\u00a0<\/em>look quite close as per GBIF links herein.<\/p>\n

We have to find the difference between the two.<\/div>\n
I am unable to get this on the net.<\/div>\n
Of the two,\u00a0Aster thomsonii<\/a><\/em> seems more common as per availability of specimens\u00a0in GBIF.
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To me this looks like Aster thomsonii<\/em>.<\/p>\n

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The size of the flowers is quite different. Aster thomsonii has larger flowers, 4-5 cm across. Nidhan ji may comment on it, as he saw the flowers. I usually take one picture of the flowers together with a scale, for example with my finger – it helps in estimating the size later by looking at the pics. I am attaching an image of, what I think is, Aster thomsoni from Dhanaulti, Uttarakhand.<\/p>\n

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\nThe size of the flowers is quite different. Aster thomsonii<\/em> has larger flowers, 4-5 cm across. … may comment on it, as he saw the flowers. I usually take one picture of the flowers together with a scale, for example with my finger – it helps in estimating the size later by looking at the pics. I am attaching an image of, what I think is, Aster thomsoni<\/em> from Dhanaulti, Uttarakhand.<\/p>\n

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I am hopeful that … may be having a few shots of this flower. It was my first tour of Chakrata with … in September 2011….the photo was recorded on 17.09.2011 at around 9:30 am (this is a reference for …)..<\/div>\n
I had learnt the significance of reference scale only after some more tours, and this is surely an incomplete post to conclude anything. Even the leaves are not captured. After such a long gap, I am now realizing the mistakes I did in the field, and there are no ways to correct, because it is rare of the rarest possibility to chance upon same plants in future follow up visits.
\n…, <\/span>Aster thomsonii<\/i> is a\u00a0 good probability considering the flower dimensions.. flowers are large, you can see my fingers (at least faintly) in the second image. I am enclosing two more pics, shot a little distance away.. which may help to decide<\/span><\/div>\n
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Cordiofontis thomsonii (C.B.Clarke) Nesom<\/a><\/p>\n

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SK 3192 02 September 2021<\/a>: 7 very high res. images.<\/p>\n
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Location: Mugu, Rara, West Nepal<\/span><\/div>\n
Altitude: 2913m.<\/span><\/div>\n
Date: 20 August 2021\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
Habit : Wild<\/span><\/div>\n
Asteraceae….<\/em> ???<\/span><\/p>\n
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Cordiofontis thomsonii<\/i>\u00a0(C. B. Clarke) Nesom ??<\/p>\n

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Yes, appears close to images at\u00a0Aster thomsonii<\/span><\/a><\/em><\/p>\n

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Cordiofontis thomsonii<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0(C. B. Clarke) Nesom<\/p>\n

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