{"id":1392460,"date":"2016-09-28T11:09:51","date_gmt":"2016-09-28T11:09:51","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2024-12-24T18:24:00","modified_gmt":"2024-12-24T12:54:00","slug":"gentianopsis-stricta","status":"publish","type":"ht_kb","link":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/efi\/gentianopsis-stricta\/","title":{"rendered":"Gentianopsis stricta"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Gentianopsis stricta <\/i>(Klotzsch) Ikonn., Novosti Sist. Vyssh. Rast. 6: 270 1970<\/i>. (syn: Gentiana stricta<\/i> Klotzsch; Gentiana vvedenskyi<\/i> Grossh.; Gentianella vvedenskyi<\/i> (Grossh.) H. Smith; Gentianopsis stricta<\/i> (Klotzsch) Holub (ambiguous synonym); Gentianopsis vvedenskyi<\/i> (Grossh.) V.V. Pis’yaukova);<\/div>\n
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Gentianopsis paludosa (Munro ex J. D. Hooker)<\/a>\u00a0: 6 posts by 2 authors. Attachments<\/span> (5)<\/font><\/span> <\/span><\/div>\n
Sharing some pictures I guess is\u00a0Gentianopsis paludosa<\/i> (Munro ex J. D. Hooker) shot at Kahrdung Village on 21 August 2014.<\/font><\/p>\n
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Pl. also check with images at <\/font>Campanulaceae & Gentianaceae Fortnight: Gentianaceae :: Gentiana detonsa var. stacheyi from Turtuk, Ladakh::PKA13<\/font><\/font><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n
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I am in agreement that this plant appears to be within what is now called the Gentianopsis<\/i> genus.\u00a0There are 2 species recorded from Ladakh<\/font>.<\/font>
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The Gentian family (Gentianaceae<\/i>)\u00a0has undergone a lot of nomenclatural and taxonomic changes in recent decades and quite a number can be difficult to identify with certainty.<\/div>\n
In my early days of exploring for plants in the Himalaya, my teams collected pressed specimens, which e.g. staff at Kew identified (e.g. a duplicate set of pressed specimens was also deposited in the herbarium of the University of Kashmir).\u00a0Later on, Eona Aitken a taxonomist specialising in Gentianaceae<\/i> helped with naming but she is no longer at Edinburgh – always a pity when one losses knowledgeable specialists.
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On my first expedition to Suru Valley, we collected at Kargil and Panichar, specimens which were named at that time as Gentianella paludosa<\/i>. Stewart in his catalogue called this Gentiana stracheyi<\/i> with synonyms Gentiana detonsa<\/i> var. stracheyi<\/i> and Gentiana detonsa<\/i> var. paludosa<\/i>.\u00a0 Nowadays it is known as Gentianopsis paludosa<\/i><\/b>.\u00a0 My present understanding is that this is the commonest species of this genus in Ladakh – mostly on and close to irrigation channels of fields – though ‘Flowers of the Himalaya’ also say it is found on open slopes and alpine shrubberies (in other parts of the Himalaya).
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But in Ladakh there is also Gentianopsis vvedenskyi<\/i><\/u> (syn. Gentianella vvedenskyi<\/u>, Gentiana stricta<\/u><\/i>).\u00a0Stewart comments that this has been much confused with\u00a0what is now Gentianopsis paludosa<\/i><\/u>.
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He separated the\u00a0former species having narrower, more acuminate leaves with less winged calyces.<\/font> The specimen we collected had prominent fringed petals.<\/font>
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My 1980 team also came across what is now Gentianopsis vvdenenskyi<\/i> in the Suru\u00a0Valley (at Rangdum) – its sepals had 5 dark stripes down each lobe but I do not know if this is characteristic of all variants of this species?\u00a0 Comparing the two, this\u00a0example of the species appeared more delicate than the examples of G. paludosa<\/i>.
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I am no expert on Gentianaceae<\/i>. My initial thoughts are that the\u00a0plants photographed by Prashant at Turtuk in Ladakh do come with Gentianopsis paludosa<\/i>.\u00a0As for the plants photographed at Khardung Village by Saroj, I wonder if these might be Gentianopsis vvedenskyi<\/i>\u00a0but am uncertain?\u00a0 They do not have the dark stripes on the\u00a0calyx lobes but\u00a0do exhibit\u00a0narrow leaves and prominent fringed petals but do not know how diagnostic these features are?
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Would be pleased if those with greater knowledge than me can comment.\u00a0 What shame I am not in a position to consult Eona.<\/font><\/p>\n
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Thanks, … After going through the images at http:\/\/www.plantarium.ru\/page\/image\/id\/118614.html<\/font><\/a>,<\/div>\n
I agree with your ID of Gentianopsis vvdenskyi<\/i> <\/p>\n
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Further both Catalogue of Life<\/font><\/a>\u00a0 <\/span>The Plant List Ver.1.1<\/font><\/a> now consider that Gentianopsis<\/i> vvedenskyi<\/i> (Grossh.) Pissjauk.<\/span><\/span>\t is a synonym<\/font><\/a> of Gentianopsis<\/i> stricta<\/i><\/b> (Klotzsch) Ikonn.<\/font><\/span><\/a><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n
Pl. also see specimen as below from GBIF<\/font><\/a>:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n
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I think all these confirm the Id.<\/p>\n
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So the accepted name is Gentianopsis stricta<\/i> and rest\u00a0are synonyms.<\/p>\n
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Thanks for up-date.\u00a0Interesting.<\/font>
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I note specimen 1 was determined as G.stricta<\/i>\u00a0by E.Aitken the Gentianceae<\/i> specialist <\/font>at Edinburgh I mentioned previously.\u00a0\u00a0Specimen collected in Ladakh by Walter Koelz, a University of Michigan <\/font>zoologist hired by the strange Russian Nicholas Roerich to collect specimens in the 1930s. <\/font>He also collected for USDA.\u00a0 Collected jointly with Thakur Rup Chand from the leading family <\/font>in Lahoul (who settled in the US).\u00a0 It is a great pity that the duplicate set of specimens they<\/font><\/div>\n
collected which were deposited at the Urusvati Institute at Naggar, Kulu Valley, have languished <\/font>there since the 1930s!\u00a0 I tried a number of times to get to inspect what remains of\u00a0thousands of <\/font>these pressed specimens – what a waste, no doubt some lost to mould and insects but presumably <\/font>others may be OK?<\/font>
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Dr Stewart, whom I regularly refer to, retired aged 70, from his post as Principal of Gordon College, <\/font>Rawalpindi, leaving a large private herbarium at the college to become Pakistan’s National Herbarium. <\/font>He was recruited by the Curator of the\u00a0University of\u00a0Michigan at Ann Arbor Herbarium to identify, label <\/font>and have mounted tends of thousands of pressed specimens accumulated by Koelz & Chand (mostly) <\/font>in Lahoul, Ladak, Kulu Valley and other districts, mostly in the\u00a01930s.\u00a0 This Stewart managed (with the <\/font>help of specialists) over a 20 year period (I think funds were made available through the USDA for him <\/font>to be a Research Associate) this and was able to compile his excellent ‘An Annotated Catalogue of the <\/font>Vascular Plants of Pakistan & Kashmir’ which I refer to a lot.\u00a0\u00a0 Then the ‘Flora of Pakistan’ Project began, <\/font>initially supervised by former students of Stewart, producing family-by-family revisions.<\/font>
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Shame no funds available for me to do something similar for the Western Himalaya or at least on <\/font>Ladakh… I currently have the time available and have accumulated much knowledge.<\/font>
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Anyhow, returning to Gentians.\u00a0 I note that Stewart\u00a0listed Gentiana stricta<\/i> Klotzsch (syn. G.detonsa<\/i> Clarke) <\/font>from N.Pakistan & Baltistan but not Ladakh.\u00a0Dickore & Klimes do not list G.stricta in their more up-to-date check-list <\/font>(but this does not always tally with Stewart).<\/font>
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This is the first time I have seen digitised specimens from Edinburgh – so shall check this source out regularly. A <\/font>long way to travel to the herbarium there in Scotland.\u00a0 I live not that far from\u00a0 Kew and the Natural History Museum <\/font>Herbaria (both about an hour or so by train and underground) but do not have funds available to consult specimens <\/font>there – which would be helpful sometimes.\u00a0 Clearly, Kew has only digitised some of the 7 million odd specimens and <\/font>being able to inspect and look at closely with a hand lens or binocular microscope, if necessary, is more informative <\/font>than the low resolution Kew images.\u00a0 Also, often the out-of-date names are used from specimens, so tracking down\u00a0<\/font>the specimens can be difficult.\u00a0 The Natural History Museum herbarium has better specimens of quite a lot of Himalayan <\/font>species and being a much smaller herbarium means one can cover more ground\/consult more specimens per hour there.<\/font>
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<\/font>Catalogue of Life<\/a>\u00a0 <\/span>The Plant List Ver.1.1<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0<\/span>IPNI<\/a>
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