{"id":1404960,"date":"2011-02-03T05:56:07","date_gmt":"2011-02-03T05:56:07","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2024-12-24T13:18:39","modified_gmt":"2024-12-24T07:48:39","slug":"agapanthus-praecox-ssp-orientalis","status":"publish","type":"ht_kb","link":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/efi\/agapanthus-praecox-ssp-orientalis\/","title":{"rendered":"Agapanthus praecox ssp. orientalis (Cultivated)"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Agapanthus<\/i> praecox<\/i> subsp. orientalis<\/i> (F.M.Leight.) F.M.Leight.<\/span><\/a>, J. S. African Bot. Suppl. 4: 21 1965<\/i>. (Syn: Agapanthus<\/i> orientalis<\/i> F.M.Leight.<\/span><\/a>;\u00a0Agapanthus<\/i> umbellatus<\/i> var. maximus<\/i> Lindl.<\/span><\/a>);<\/div>\n
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For ID 120610 ET – efloraofindia | Google Groups<\/span><\/a> : 9 posts by 6 authors. Attachments (2)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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I took this plant \/ flower picture during Nature camp to the Nilgiri Biosphere Reserve \u2013 Avalanche- Kunda Forest Reserve-
\nDate\/Time-12.5.10<\/span> \u00a0 \u00a0 —-2.00 p.m
\nLocation- Place, Altitude, GPS- —— Avalanche- Kunda Forest Reserve<\/span><\/span>
\nHabitat- Garden\/ Urban\/ Wild\/ Type- —Garden<\/span>
\nPlant Habit- Tree\/ Shrub\/ Climber\/ Herb- ————-
\nHeight\/Length- —————–1.5 meter<\/span><\/p>\n

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Looks like Agapanthus orientalis<\/i> (Amaryllidaceae<\/i>).<\/p>\n

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I had photographed A. africanus<\/i> (A. umbellatus<\/i>) from California. Could you kindly list differences between the two species. They look similar, except for lighter colour of flowers here.<\/p>\n

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The perianth segments of A. africanus<\/b><\/i> are thick in texture and the flowers are open faced and range in colour from light to mainly deep blue. Rare sightings of white flowered plants have been recorded. Fires stimulate profuse flowering. After a recent fire in the Silver Mine Nature Reserve on the Cape Peninsula a single white flowered plant was noted amongst thousands of blue flowered ones. The plants flower mainly from December to February. The leaves are evergreen and strap like, about 15 mm wide with an average length of 350 mm. The flower stalk is usually under 700 mm tall. This subspecies is quite common and because of the fairly inaccessible terrain its survival is assured.
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Thanx a lot\u00a0… for asking such a nice question. It compelled me to go for a thorough mining of the literature. Unfortunately I
\nfound less number of releavant literature. Sometimes they are very confusing too. Anyway, I am referring here the link (http:\/\/
\nPacific Bulb society<\/a><\/span>) that differentiate these two sps. on the basis of stamen size. From the
\ngiven fotograph of …, it appears that the size of stamen is almost similar or bigger than the tepals<\/span> but not smaller as
\nmentioned for A. africanus<\/i> on the website. <\/span>I would suggest this sps. to be as Agapanthus praecox<\/b><\/i> ssp. orientalis<\/b><\/i> (=A. orientalis<\/i>) but still
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…, Excellent photo.\u00a0Is it fragrant?<\/p>\n

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Agapanthus species : Garden plant of California<\/a>:
\nI think this is Agapanthus orientalis<\/i>. Please validate. Blue and white variety.
\nThis is very commonly found in most flowerbeds of California.<\/p>\n

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Yes .. Another common plant in California<\/p>\n

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Yes, Agapanthus orientalis<\/i>, parking lots, roadsides, outside of fences,\u00a0massive plantings …. everyone loves the buoe flower heads… they provide pleasant color for the whole of the summer…
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Flowers of California 5: Agapanthus praecox subsp. orientalis:<\/a>
\nAgapanthus praecox<\/i><\/b> Willd. subsp. orientalis<\/i><\/b> (F. M. Leight.) F. M. Leight.<\/div>\n
Syn: Agapanthus orientalis<\/i> F. M. Leight<\/span>.<\/span> <\/span><\/div>\n
Evergreen garden ornamental herb with strap-shaped 4-6 cm wide leaves; flowers blue in a 40-110 flowered umbel on a longer scape; flowers 5 cm long.
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Flowers of California 4: Agapanthus africanus:<\/a>
\nAgapanthus africanus<\/i><\/b> (L.) Hoffmanns., Verz. Pfl.-Kult. 35. 1824<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Syn: Crinum africanum<\/i> L<\/span>.<\/span>; <\/span>Agapanthus umbellatus<\/i> L\u2019H\u00e9r<\/span>.<\/span><\/div>\n
Evergreen garden ornamental, with linear-lanceolate leaves 10-13 mm broad; flowers blue, 3.5-4.5 cm long, in a 12-30 flowered umbel on on a long scape.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n
Common names: African Lily, blue African lily, Lily of the Nile
\n<\/b><\/span><\/span>Less commonly cultivated<\/span> in California<\/span><\/div>\n
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May be <\/span>Agapanthus praecox<\/i> Willd. or its hybrids as per discussions in <\/span>another thread<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n

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efloraindia: 111111 BRS150:<\/a>
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Location: Pambar Shola, Approx.. 2000 msl, Kodaikanal
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Agapanthus praecox<\/i> Willd. or its hybrids as per discussions in another thread<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n

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SK1022 17MAR-2018<\/a> : 6 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3)<\/span><\/div>\n
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Location<\/span><\/span>:\u00a0Godawari\u00a0Botanical Garden, Nepal\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n
Altitude: 5000 ft.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n
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Habit : Cultivated
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Also check \/species\/a—l\/ar\/asparagaceae<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Thank you … Agapanthus africanus<\/i> (L.) Hoffmanns.\u00a0???<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Yes to me also appear close to images at Agapanthus africanus<\/i> (L.) Hoffmanns.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Agapanthus praecox<\/i> Willd. or its hybrids as per discussions in another thread<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n

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SK1377 21AUG 2018<\/a> : 15 posts by 5 authors. Attachments (6)- around 600 kb each.<\/span><\/div>\n
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Location: Godavari, Nepal<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n
Altitude : 5000 ft.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n
Date: 24 July 2018
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Thank you … Agapanthus africanus<\/i> (L.) Hoffmanns.<\/p>\n

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This appears to be\u00a0Agapanthus praecox<\/i> Willd. [Amaryllidaceae<\/i> \/ ex-Agapanthaceae<\/i>]. This plant is, and has been, widely mistaken for\u00a0A. africanus<\/i> (L.) Hoffmanns.
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Please refer to the attached documents for more details. The screenshots have been sourced from:\u00a0<\/span>The European Garden Flora, Vol. I<\/span><\/a>, Alismataceae to Orchidaceae, Second edition, Cambridge University Press, 2011.<\/div>\n
PS:\u00a0<\/span>The pentamerous flower in these images seems to be a curious aberration.<\/span><\/div>\n
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Thanks, … I think we should accordingly take our images at Agapanthus africanus<\/i> (Cultivated)<\/span><\/a>\u00a0as Agapanthus praecox<\/i> Willd. or its hybrids.
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Yes. The confusion is widespread. As mentioned in the PDF attached in my previous email:
\n“…even in South Africa, cultivars are mainly traded or linked to <\/span>Agapanthus africanus<\/i>. In nearly all cases, these plants have nothing to do with this species; almost all are selections or hybrids from <\/span>A. praecox<\/i>. Even so close to the natural habitat, it seems impossible to get rid of this confusion…” – p. 19, <\/span>Agapanthus<\/i> – A Revision of the Genus by\u00a0<\/span>Wim Snoeijer,<\/span>\u00a0<\/span>Timber Press, 2004.<\/span><\/div>\n
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on that page<\/span><\/a>,\u00a0esp\u00a0… case, only he has taken the trouble to find out and tell us that it was<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/span>an evergreen.\u00a0
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information in plain english for gardeners :\u00a0 the following snipptes are\u00a0 from daves garden<\/span><\/a>: …<\/div>\n
Classification of\u00a0<\/span>Agapanthus<\/i>\u00a0is confusing, and even experts have difficulty. Over the years,\u00a0<\/span>Agapanthus\u00a0<\/i>has changed families several times, being at one time or another assigned to\u00a0<\/span>Liliaceae\u00a0<\/i>(lily)<\/span>,\u00a0<\/i>and\u00a0<\/span>Alliaceae\u00a0<\/i>(onion)<\/span>,\u00a0<\/i>or being assigned its own monotypic family,\u00a0<\/span>Agapanthaceae.\u00a0<\/i>APG III taxonomic system assigns it to the family\u00a0<\/span>Amaryllidaceae\u00a0<\/i>and recognizes<\/span><\/span>\u00a0these species<\/span><\/a>:\u00a0<\/span>A. africanus, A. campanulatus\u00a0<\/i>(with one subspecies)<\/span>, A. caulescens, A. inapertus\u00a0<\/i>(with five subspecies)<\/span>,\u00a0<\/i>and\u00a0<\/span>A. praecox<\/i>\u00a0(with three subspecies)<\/span>.<\/i><\/span><\/div>\n
The\u00a0<\/span>APG III taxonomic system<\/u><\/span><\/a>\u00a0does not recognize\u00a0<\/span><\/span>A. orientalis,\u00a0<\/i>but it does list\u00a0<\/span>A. praecox\u00a0<\/i>subsp.\u00a0<\/span>orientalis.\u00a0<\/i><\/span><\/div>\n
Since it is generally recognized by most experts that almost <\/span>all the evergreen agapanthus in cultivation are cultivars or hybrids of\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/span>A. praecox<\/i>
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this page is short treasure of whats in US gardens.<\/div>\n
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Re:Blue lily ?<\/a>\u00a0: 7 posts by 4 authors.\u00a0Attachments\u00a0(1)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

Location\u00a0Kalimpong Darjeeling West Bengal<\/span><\/div>\n
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Could not find a match with any species so far in efi as per comparative images at <\/span>\/species\/a\u2014l\/a\/amaryllidaceae\/allium<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Please compare with\u00a0Agapanthus<\/em>\u00a0species in eFI.<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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A. africanus<\/em>: Scape less than 70 cm long, leaves\u00a0 less than 15 mm wide,\u00a0 umbel 12-30 flowered, flower less than 4 cm long,\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n
A. praecox<\/em>: Scape longer than 80 cm, leaves wider than 15 mm, umbel more than 30 flowered, flower longer than 4 cm.
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\nFrance, July 2022 :: Agapanthus praecox subsp. orientalis for validation :: ARK2022-082<\/a>: 3 high res. images.
\n<\/span>This was clicked at the Eze Botanical Garden<\/span> near Nice, France in July 2022.<\/span>
\nAgapanthus praecox<\/em> subsp. orientalis<\/em>
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Agapanthus praecox ‘Albus’ from California-GS24072024-2<\/a>: 4 high res. images.
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