{"id":1415064,"date":"2017-01-18T08:46:56","date_gmt":"2017-01-18T08:46:56","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2024-12-24T18:23:27","modified_gmt":"2024-12-24T12:53:27","slug":"askellia-flexuosa","status":"publish","type":"ht_kb","link":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/efi\/askellia-flexuosa\/","title":{"rendered":"Askellia flexuosa"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Askellia<\/i> flexuosa<\/i> (Ledeb.) W.A.Weber, 6 1984<\/em>. (Syn: Askellia<\/i> melanthera<\/i> (C.H.An) Tzvelev<\/span><\/a>; Barkhausia<\/i> flexuosa<\/i> (Ledeb.) DC.<\/span><\/a>; Barkhausia<\/i> flexuosa<\/i> var. flexuosa<\/i> <\/span><\/a>; Barkhausia<\/i> flexuosa<\/i> var. lyrata<\/i> Schrenk<\/span><\/a>; Crepis<\/i> flexuosa<\/i> (Ledeb.) Benth. ex C.B.Clarke<\/span><\/a>; Crepis<\/i> glauca<\/i> Hook.f.<\/span><\/a>; Crepis<\/i> glauca<\/i> (Edgew.) Benth. & Hook.f.<\/span><\/a>; Crepis<\/i> krylovii<\/i> Schischk.<\/span><\/a> [Illegitimate]; Crepis<\/i> kusnezovii<\/i> Pavlov<\/span><\/a>; Crepis<\/i> melanthera<\/i> C.H.An<\/span><\/a>; Hieracioides<\/i> flexuosum<\/i> (Ledeb.) Kuntze<\/span><\/a>; Prenanthes<\/i> polymorpha<\/i> var. flexuosa<\/i> Ledeb.<\/span><\/a>; Youngia<\/i> flexuosa<\/i> (Ledeb.) Ledeb.<\/span><\/a>; Youngia<\/i> flexuosa<\/i> var. flexuosa<\/i> <\/span><\/a>; Youngia<\/i> flexuosa<\/i> var. gigantea<\/i> (Ledeb.) C.Winkl. ex O.Fedtsch.<\/span><\/a>; Youngia<\/i> flexuosa<\/i> var. lyrata<\/i> (Schrenk) O.Fedtsch. & B.Fedtsch.<\/span><\/a>; Youngia<\/i> glauca<\/i> Edgew.<\/span><\/a>);<\/div>\n
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Common name:<\/strong> Tangled Hawksbeard \u2022 Ladakhi<\/span>: \u0f62\u0f7a\u0f58 \u0f42<\/span> Remang<\/div>\n
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Pl. check comparative images at\u00a0https:\/\/sites.google.com\/<\/span>site\/efloraofindia\/species\/a–<\/span>-l\/ar\/asteraceae\/<\/span>cichorioideae\/cichorieae<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n

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Pl. try with some Crepis<\/em><\/span><\/a>\u00a0species as per comparative images herein.<\/p>\n

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This is Askellia <\/i>(=Crepis<\/i>) flexuosa<\/i>.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Fwd: Crepis flexuosa – new to efi<\/a> : 1 post by 1 author.<\/div>\n
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I appreciate that a lot of time and effort went into\u00a0sub-dividing the VERY large Asteraceae<\/em> family (previously Compositae<\/em>) into Tribes but I personally think in terms of GENERA rather than Tribes and often find searching for entries a nuisance.<\/div>\n
When I began taking a serious interest in botany in the late 1970s arranging plants systematically remained the norm.<\/div>\n
‘Flowers of the Himalaya’ is arranged systematically.\u00a0 Herbaria are arranged systematically.\u00a0 I do see a value in arranging the efI data-base by family.\u00a0 Wisely, an ALPHABETICAL approach has been adopted NOT a Systematic one.<\/div>\n
I would urge that both old and new names (some changes of families have taken place in recent years) should be given\u00a0with a entry for old names given with the new name provided e.g. Compositae<\/em> see Asteraceae<\/em>.<\/span>
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Dickore & Klimes arranged their ‘Flora of Ladakh’ (2005) which is a check-list rather than a Flora, in alphabetical order by family but when I first started to use it, was not familiar with quite a number of name changes of the families (they, unfortunately, did not indicate which families the families had been known as previously).\u00a0 They also do not provide any synonyms for the numerous changes of genera and species\u00a0names – all this has meant a LOT of checking for me.<\/div>\n
I also have to observe that I find a basic check-list (even\u00a0when of the highest standards which Dickore & Klimes’ work always is)\u00a0of MINIMAL\u00a0use – though it represents a START towards a more up-to-date version of Stewart’s ‘An Annotated Catalogue of the Vascular Plants of Pakistan & Kashmir’ (1972).\u00a0Stewart’s original ‘Flora of Ladakh’ (1916-17) was little more than a check-list.\u00a0We still await an actual FLORA for Ladakh.\u00a0 I did offer to collaborate towards an up-to-date Flora for Ladakh 30 years ago but was told, at a senior level, this was for Indian botanists ONLY.\u00a0 I have inquired a number of times since then but nobody seems to be able to tell me IF such a Flora is “in preparation”?<\/div>\n
I wonder how many members are FAMILIAR with\u00a0the Tribes within Asteraceae?\u00a0 I\u00a0only know some and do not think in terms of\u00a0Tribes at all (though probably have a better grasp of what a ‘Tribe’ is than most)\u00a0– does not seem to have done me any lasting damage…..<\/div>\n
My vote would be for an alphabetical listing (though there would be a need for synonyms\/old names to be listed).<\/span>
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Anyhow, I cannot locate Crepis<\/em> or Youngia<\/em>, so perhaps the following\u00a0constitutes a new entry but even if that is not the case, the images<\/div>\n
are well worth having available to refer to for comparison purposes?<\/div>\n
See three lovely images of what I currently consider is Crepis flexuosa<\/em> see: http:\/\/photos.v-d-brink.eu\/Pakistan-new\/i-9XMDWz2<\/span><\/a>\u00a0 (what a great habitat shot) and two following images.<\/div>\n
Flowers of the Himalaya says stony hillsides<\/span> @ 3000-4200m from Pakistan to C.Nepal, Tibet, C.Asia. Prominent in Ladakh.<\/span><\/div>\n
Stewart recorded this as very common on the dry inner ranges on bare gravelly soil<\/span> @ 2700-5700m.
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Flora of Lahaul-Spiti has this species only as a synonym of Youngia glauca<\/em> Edgew.- which they found common on sandy slopes<\/span> at Chatru.<\/span><\/div>\n
According to The Plant List the name Crepis flexuosa is unresolved.<\/div>\n
It can be difficult to distinguish between specimens of Crepis, Youngia<\/em> and related genera, especially when the images do not show quality close-up detail.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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ID request- 101011-PKA2:<\/span><\/a>
\nSeen this\u00a0herb<\/span>\u00a0near Pangong Lake in Ladakh.<\/span><\/div>\n
Family: Asteraceae<\/div>\n
Could this be\u00a0Crepis flexuosa<\/i>??<\/div>\n
Date\/Time:\u00a014-09-2011 \/ 03:30PM
\nLocation: Pangong Lake, ladakh (Altitude: Approx: 14300ft)<\/span>
\nHabitat: Wild (on Sandy , stony soil)
\nPlant Habit: Herb<\/span><\/div>\n
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Looks like\u00a0Chondrilla juncea<\/i>.<\/p>\n

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In\u00a0Chondrilla juncea<\/i>\u00a0the heads are generally on short axillary stalks and florets many in number, and more so not reported from Ladakh
\n<\/span>Crepis flexuosa<\/i> generally forms clumps
\nTo me it looks like\u00a0<\/span>Youngia tenuifolia<\/i>\u00a0(syn:\u00a0<\/span>Crepis tenuifolia<\/i>)<\/span><\/p>\n

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Chondrilla juncea<\/i>\u00a0not only not known for Ladakh but not in Pakistan or Kashmir.<\/div>\n
Crepis flexuosa<\/i>\u00a0and\u00a0Youngia tenuifolia<\/i>\u00a0are the likely candidates.<\/div>\n
Of these,\u00a0C.flexuosa<\/i><\/u>\u00a0is very common on the dry inner ranges on bare gravelly soil @ 2700-5700m.<\/span><\/div>\n
Y.tenuifolia<\/i>\u00a0(previously\u00a0Crepis tenuifolia<\/i>) recorded less frequently @ 3000-4600m.<\/span><\/div>\n
Have not found it easy to distinguish between the two.\u00a0 From the herbarium specimens and illustrations
\nI have seen to date, favouring\u00a0<\/span>Youngia tenuifolia<\/i><\/span><\/u>\u00a0but does anyone know better?<\/span><\/div>\n
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I have made some progress and am now comfortable with what\u00a0Crepis flexuosa<\/i>\u00a0and\u00a0Youngia tenuifolia<\/i>\u00a0(or whatever current name is accepted).<\/div>\n
I can now say with confidence that the plant photographed is not\u00a0Youngia tenuifolia<\/i>.<\/div>\n
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It must be said that the specimen photographed is a poorly developed one and things have been made difficult because the involucral bracts are not in focus nor the foliage for that matter but I suspect this will probably prove to be\u00a0Crepis flexuosa<\/i>.<\/u><\/p>\n

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Asteraceae Fortnight Part 3-Ligulate heads (plus Misc.): Youngia tenuifolia?? at Ladakh :: PKA6::<\/span><\/a>\u00a0: Attachments (3). 3 posts by 2 authors.
\nSeen this herb near Pangong Lake in Ladakh.
\nFamily:\u00a0Asteraceae<\/i>
\nBot name:\u00a0Youngia tenuifolia<\/i>\u00a0(syn:\u00a0Crepis tenuifolia<\/i>)??
\nDate\/Time:\u00a014-09-2011 \/ 03:30PM<\/span>
\nLocation:\u00a0Pangong Lake, ladakh (Altitude: Approx: 14300ft)<\/span>
\nHabitat: Wild (on Sandy , stony soil)
\nPlant Habit: Herb<\/span><\/p>\n
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Chondrilla juncea<\/i>\u00a0not only not known for Ladakh but not in Pakistan or Kashmir.<\/div>\n
Crepis flexuosa<\/i>\u00a0and\u00a0Youngia tenuifolia<\/i>\u00a0are the likely candidates.<\/div>\n
Of these,\u00a0C.flexuosa<\/i><\/u>\u00a0is very common on the dry inner ranges on bare gravelly soil @ 2700-5700m.<\/span><\/div>\n
Y.tenuifolia<\/i>\u00a0(previously Crepis tenuifolia) recorded less frequently @ 3000-4600m.<\/span><\/div>\n
Have not found it easy to distinguish between the two.\u00a0 From the herbarium specimens and illustrations
\nI have seen to date, favouring\u00a0<\/span>Youngia tenuifolia<\/i><\/span><\/u>\u00a0but does anyone know better?<\/span><\/div>\n
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A\u00a0 feedback from … from another thread:<\/div>\n
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“I have made some progress and am now comfortable with what\u00a0Crepis flexuosa<\/i>\u00a0and\u00a0Youngia\u00a0tenuifolia<\/i>\u00a0(or whatever current name is accepted).<\/div>\n
I can now say with confidence that the plant photographed is not\u00a0Youngia\u00a0tenuifolia<\/i>.<\/div>\n
It must be said that the specimen photographed is a poorly developed one and things have been made difficult because the involucral bracts are not in focus
\nnor the foliage for that<\/span>\u00a0<\/b>matter but I suspect this will probably prove to be\u00a0<\/span>Crepis flexuosa<\/i>.”<\/span><\/div>\n
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I guess\u00a0Crepis flexuosa<\/em>\u00a0is the correct ID<\/p>\n

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\nAlong the roadside\u00a0<\/span>on the Leh-Khardung La road before South Pullu (15,300 ft) on 15.6.22 in Ladakh.
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Yes, appears close to the images and details at\u00a0Askellia flexuosa<\/span><\/a><\/em>, among the other slited species.<\/p>\n

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\nLadakh, August 2022 :: Askellia flexuosa for validation :: ARK2022-129<\/a>: 2 high res. images.
\nThis was at Namika la (a pass on the Srinagar Kargil route) at 3700 mt. ASL in August 2022.<\/span>
\nAskellia flexuosa<\/em>
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I guess the \u00a0ID is correct !<\/p>\n

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I also agree as per images at\u00a0Askellia flexuosa<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n

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\nLadakh, August 2022 :: Askellia flexuosa :: ARK2022-146<\/a>: 2 high res. images.
\nThis was at the Diskit monastery near Nubra, Ladakh in August 2022.<\/span>
\nI think this is Askellia flexuosa<\/em> only.
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I guess the ID is correct !<\/p>\n

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I also agree as per images at\u00a0Askellia flexuosa<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n

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References:
\n<\/span>Catalogue of Life<\/a>\u00a0 The Plant List Ver.1.1<\/a> \u00a0GCC<\/a> \u00a0IPNI<\/a> \u00a0GBIF<\/a> (with type specimen) BSI Flora of India checklist<\/a> \u00a0Flora of China<\/a> \u00a0FOC illustration<\/a> Flowers of India<\/a>\u00a0 India Biodiversity Portal<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Cichorieae Portal<\/a>\u00a0 Rock Garden Plant Database<\/a><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Askellia flexuosa (Ledeb.) W.A.Weber, 6 1984. (Syn: Askellia melanthera (C.H.An) Tzvelev; Barkhausia flexuosa (Ledeb.) DC.; Barkhausia flexuosa var. flexuosa ; Barkhausia flexuosa var. lyrata Schrenk; Crepis flexuosa (Ledeb.) Benth. ex C.B.Clarke; Crepis glauca Hook.f.; Crepis glauca (Edgew.) Benth. & Hook.f.; Crepis krylovii Schischk. [Illegitimate]; Crepis kusnezovii Pavlov; Crepis melanthera C.H.An;…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"ht-kb-category":[9079],"ht-kb-tag":[],"class_list":["post-1415064","ht_kb","type-ht_kb","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","ht_kb_category-askellia"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/ht-kb\/1415064","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/ht-kb"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/ht_kb"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1415064"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/ht-kb\/1415064\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1415064"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"ht_kb_category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/ht-kb-category?post=1415064"},{"taxonomy":"ht_kb_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/efloraofindia.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/ht-kb-tag?post=1415064"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}

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