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For difference between Cordia dichotoma and Cordia myxa, pl. see Confusion- Cordia myxa L. and Cordia dichotoma G.Forst.
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KOR-dee-uh — named for Valerius Cordus, 16th century German botanist
dy-KAW-toh-muh — divided or forked in pairsDave’s Botanary
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commonly known as: bird lime tree, clammy cherry, fragrant manjack, Indian cherry, Sebesten plum • Assamese: goborsuta • Bengali: bahubara • Gujarati: વદો ગુંદો vado gundo • Hindi: बहूआर bahuar, गुन्दा gunda, लसोड़ा lasora • Kannada: ಚಳ್ಳೆ ಹಣ್ಣು challe hannu • Malayalam: നറുവേലി naruveeli, വിരശം virasam, വിരി viri • Marathi: भोकर bhokar, गोंदणी gondani, गोंधण gondhan • Sanskrit: बहुक bahuka, बहुवारः bahuvaraha, उद्दलक uddalaka • Tamil: நறுவல்லி naru-valli, விரிசு viricu • Telugu: నెక్కర nekkara, శ్లేష్మాతకము slesmatakamu, విరిగి virigi • Urdu: سپستان sipistan
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Native to: China, eastern Asia, Indian subcontinent, Indo-China, Malesia, northern Australia, south-western Pacific
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A medium sized tree with minutely hairy branches; leaves obovate to elliptic-ovate, up to 12 cm long, base rounded or cuneate; petiole 2-5 cm long; flowers in dichotomously branched corymbose cymes, terminating branches; male flowers shallowly 5-lobed calyx; corolla campanulate, 5-6 mm long; bosexual flowers larger with calyx accrescent in fruit; fruit a drupe, up to 15 mm, yellowish red, with sticky pulp.
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Edible use:
… the unripe fruits (as VEGETABLE) pickled in Konkan (and elsewhere in s-e Asia)
… the ripe fruits (as FRUIT) in rural area of Konkan
The wood is ideal for producing fire by friction.—–It is very durable and is said to have been used for making the Egyptian mummy cases
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As per efi thread :
Here is a key for distinguishing the species
1. Corolla white ………..2
2. Fruiting calyx not ribbed …….3
3. Filament hairy at base; Fruit up to 2.5 cm………..
C. dichotoma
3. Filament glabrous; Fruit up to 1.2 cm long……….C. sinensis
2. Fruiting calyx ribbed …..C. domestica
1. Corolla orange ……4
4. Leaves rough; Ripe fruit white …..C. Sebestena
4. Leaves not rough; Ripe fruit brown ……C. subcordata
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There has been a confusion between these species. We have included all our observations under Cordia dichotoma.
Let us explore whether they are the same or different. If different, what are the differences?
POWO and Catalogue of Life consider them to be different., although at some point Catalogue of Life considered them to be the same as per details at GBIF (which relies on Catalogue of Life).
I could not find the difference between the two except at Flora of Pakistan. Here are the keys:
2 (1) Calyx not ribbed, glabrous   2 Cordia myxa
+ Calyx ribbed, minutely pubescent to tomentose   (3) for other species including Cordia dichotoma
Let us examine the detailed descriptions:
Cordia myxa L.:
A deciduous tree 3-5 m tall. Young shoots and branches with a rusty pubescence, glabrate at length. Leaves 6-12.5 x 43-8.2 cm, suborbicular. elliptic-ovate to oblong-ovate, 3-nerved, acute or obtuse, subentire to sinuate-crenate or dentate, glabrous to dense tomentose on under surface, base cuneate to rounded. Petiole 2.5-4.3 cm long. Flowers not seen. Drupe 20 mm long, ovoid, apiculate, brownish-yellow, base partly surrounded by the enlarged, ± broadly cupular calyx.
Fl. Per.: March-April.
Distribution: Pakistan, India Sri-Lanka.
Cultivated and sometimes found as an escape. The pulpy drupe is edible.
Habit: Tree 6–12 m. tall, sometimes rather twisted, with young stems hairy but soon glabrous, older with circular petiolar scars.
Leaves: Leaves broadly ovate to subcircular, or sometimes obovate, 3–18 cm. long, 3–20 cm. wide, rounded to cordate or cuneate at the base, rounded to shortly obtusely acuminate at the apex, entire or repand-dentate, subcoriaceous, glabrous above, glabrous to ± densely pubescent beneath or even velvety; petiole 0.6–3.5 cm. long, glabrous or sparsely hairy.
Inflorescences: Cymes in terminal lax panicles, often on short lateral branches, 3–8.5 cm. long, 2–7 cm. wide, axes glabrous to sparsely pubescent; pedicels 1–2 mm. long, articulate at the apex.

Flowers: Female:calyx tubular-campanulate, 6–8.5 mm. long, irregularly 3–4-toothed, glabrous outside save for tips of lobes, densely pubescent inside; corolla-tube 4.5–6.5 mm. long; lobes 4–6, elliptic to obovate, 5–7 mm. long, 2.5–3.5 mm. wide, reflexed and rolled up; stamens with filaments 1.5–2.5 mm. long, ± pubescent; anthers sterile; ovary ellipsoid or obovoid, 2.5–3.5 mm. long, 2–2.7 mm. wide; style exserted, 8–9 mm. long, deeply divided into 4 stigmatic branches 4–5 mm. long, flattened and subfoliaceous with irregular or erose-denticulate margins. Male:calyx campanulate, 4.5–5.5 mm. long, 3-lobed, glabrous outside, pubescent to tomentose at apex inside; corolla white; tube 3.5–4.5 mm. long; lobes 5, elliptic, 5 mm. long, 2 mm. wide, reflexed; stamens exserted, the filaments 1.5–3.5 mm. long, hairy at the base; ovary rudimentary and style absent.

Fruits: Fruit yellow, apricot or blackish, ovoid, (1.2–)2–3.5 cm. long, apiculate, held in the accrescent campanulate calyx (0.7–1 cm. long, 1.2–1.5(–2) cm. wide), which is ± obscurely lobed or subtruncate; pulp mucilaginous and sweet; endocarp broadly ellipsoid or ± globose, ± 1.2 cm. long, 1 cm. wide, deeply rugose, 4-locular but only 1 seed developing.
Habitat: Naturalised in coastal and other bushland and cultivated; 0–1050 m.
Distribution: native of tropical Asia (India, etc.), cultivated and often naturalised in tropical Africa, Senegal to Cameroon, also in N. Africa (Algeria, Libya, Egypt)                                       
Cordia dichotoma Forster. f.:
A polygamo-dioecious tree up to 15 m tall. Branchlets pubescent. Leaves 5-8 x 1.5-3.0 cm, elliptic-ovate to obovate, pubescent, especially on the under-surface, margin sometimes undulate, base cuneate to oblique or rounded. Petiole up to 3.0 cm long. Flowers in dichotomous cymes, ebracteate. Male flowers: Calyx c. 2.5 mm long, shallowly 5-lobed, hairy to the inside. Corolla campanulate, c. 6 mm long, tube about equalling the limb, dense hairy within. Lobes oblanceolate or broadly so, recurved. Filaments c. 4.5 mm, lower half hairy and adnate to tube; anthers 2.5-3 mm long; bisexual flowers: similar but larger than male flowers. Calyx 5-6 mm long, campanulate, accrescent and up to 10 mm in fruit. Filaments c. 2 mm long. Style branched. Drupe up to 15 mm broad, yellowish-red.
Fl. Per.: March-April.
Distribution: Pakistan, Kashmir, India, S. China, Taiwan, Indo-China, New Caledonia & N.E. Australia.
Trees 3-4(-20) m tall. Petiole 2-5 cm; leaf blade ovate to broadly ovate or elliptic, 6-13 × 4-9 cm, sparsely pubescent or glabrous, base rounded to broadly cuneate, margin usually subundulate to undulate dentate, rarely entire, apex obtuse to mucronate. Inflorescences terminating leafy lateral branches, dichotomously branched into corymbose cymes, widely spaced, 5-8 cm wide. Flowers dimorphic, sessile. Calyx campanulate, 5-6 mm, 5-lobed; lobes unequal, triangular. Corolla white, ca. as long as calyx; lobes shorter than tube, margin somewhat undulate. Filaments of staminate flowers ca. 3.5 mm, filaments of bisexual flowers 1-2 mm. Rudimentary pistil globose. Style united portion 1-1.5 mm, first branches ca. 1 mm, second branches 2-3 mm; stigma spatulate. Drupes yellow or reddish, subglobose, 1-1.5 cm in diam., with sticky mesocarp, surrounded by persistent calyx. Fl. Feb-Apr, fr. Jun-Aug.
Open woods on slopes, mountain streamsides. Fujian, Guangdong, Guangxi, Guizhou, Taiwan, SE Xizang, Yunnan [Cambodia, N India, Indonesia, Japan (Ryukyu Islands), Kashmir, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, Pakistan, Thailand, Vietnam; NE Australia, Pacific Islands]
On checking all the images, the crucial difference appears to be glabrous calyx in Cordia myxa in comparison to non-glabrous calyx in Cordia dichotoma.
The following on net seems to match with Cordia myxa (mostly fruiting images- I am not sure if the calyx become glabrous by that time, except for one small flowering image, in which it is difficult to observe glabrous nature of the calyx correctly)
Following of our posts may be of Cordia myxa (mostly fruiting images- I am not sure if the calyx become glabrous by that time):
However, I strongly feel this minor difference does not warrant a separate species status. And it is better to keep them together under Cordia dichotoma
Any feedback will be highly appreciated.

yes … your observation is very correct, hence both are treated same, only in some outdated floras it is given separately 



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1004110-PR-2 For ID – in Chennai:
Cordia myxa (dichotoma) is now blooming and setting seed in Chennai now.



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Cordia myxa flowers:
these are the flowers of Cordia myxa. the flowers open during night and are insect pollinated probably…. clicked from; Please note that the stigma has two lobes and each lobe is bifid again. though not clear in the photograph but this is the case.

Mohali, Punjab
time 10:30 pm


–  Looking at the descriptions and illustrations of Flora of Delhi, eFlora of Pakistan and eFlora of China, I have a feeling that our C. myxa (Lassora) may be C. dichotoma only, common in plains in North India. eFlora of Pakistan differentiates C. dichotoma from C. myxa in its narrower leaves and cuneate base, but if we have a look at illustration of C. dichotoma in eFlora of China and the photograph at FOI, the leaves are much broader and rounded at base. All our specimens may be C. dichotoma only. You may please check it further.


Some more links to suggest that our C. myxa (non C. myxa L.) , Lasura and C. dichotoma are the same species, with C. dichotoma as accepted name for our plant.
World agro forestry
Haryana online
Globinmed
Book link
http://plantsforman.com/?p=109


– Perhaps .. can throw some light on this. A relation of us was sent one bag full of leaves of this plant (Lassora). Four leaves of this are to be boiled in 2 glasses in water, one cardamom (moti elaichi), boil till it reduces to one eighth, allow it to cool and drink when it is luke warm. lie down covering your self with sheet for one hour. Repeat this once a day for four days. It is supposed to cure joint pains. I want some one to throw light on this.

– It is effective but if it fails then more herbs can be added one by one up to 65 herbs in order to make the decoction more effective gradually. There are some restrictions also. Patients with Leucoderma (Vitiligo) and Kidney related troubles are advised to take this decoction under supervision of experts.


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Cordia crenata: (Mixed thread):
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Thanks a lot, …, for the wonderful additions.
Can the following be the same species?:
Boraginaceae Week: Cordia dichotoma Forster from Delhi
Can you check if any similar observations at
https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/19/cordia-dichotoma/?


No Cordia crenata in this page. Almost all are Cordia myxa, only one or two C. dichotoma ….one from Muscat and possibly one from WB Dinajpur . .
To me Cordia myxa and Cordia dichotoma are distinct though I cannot describe the differences if you ask me. One season I had recorded flowers of both and they were different of course. Unripe fruits are used for pickle making and in season (spring) in market it is always fruit of dichotoma, never myxa. Here is a post on fb comparing flowers of the two species
https://www.facebook.com/groups/indianflora/posts/3506185329422781/



female flower Cordia myxa….. look at stigma



female flower Cordia dichotoma ….look at stigma


Apart from stigma what I have observed is ….
Cordia myxa is a bigger tree, leaf comparatively smaller than dichotoma, orbicular to oblong, ripe fruits are about 1.5 cm in diameter, orangish pink translucent.
Cordia dichotoma trees are smaller, larger orbicular leaf, new emerging leaves are velutinous on undersurface and ripe fruits are about 2cm in diameter light yellow in color, not translucent. 
Branchlets in both are drooping but they are much longer in C. dichotoma
As I said these differences are rather general, Stigma I find specific. 
In discussions on facebook opinions on facebook were very confusing. Finally  I managed to get clarity on these two from a paper from Egypt .


Also see earlier discussions in the matter:
Confusion- Cordia myxa L. and Cordia dichotoma G.Forst.
Any comments are welcome.


Taxonomic revision of genus Cordia L. (Boraginaceae) in Egypt- Wafaa M. Amer, Rim S. Hamdy and Riham A. Mahdy- Egypt J. Bot. 6th. International Con. 11‐12 May, 2016, Menoufia Univ., pp 375‐408.
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Sir, I have read it all. No confusion for me. I see both of them on daily basis… myxa is very common in Surat, dichotoma not so. Same goes for Saurashtra. But I suspect there should be plenty of dichotoma in forests to sustain plentiful supply of dichotoma fruits in market in spring /early summer.



 Date/Time-        08/05/2011       07:00AM
Location- Place, Altitude, GPS-     Near Powai lake, Mumbai, Maharashtra. Sea level
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-:  Wild
Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  : Small tree
Height/Length- 7Mtrs approx
Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-  as seen in picture
Inflorescence Type/ Size- as seen in picture
Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- as seen in picture
Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- small green as seen in picture
Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- Flowers fragrant

This is Bhokar [Cordia myxa].


yes it is
Cordia dichotoma Forst.f., Prodr. 18, 1786; Almeida, Fl. Mah. 3: 294, 2001; Singh et al, Fl. Mah. St. 2: 417, 2001.
Synonyms: C. obliqua Willd. Phytogr. 4. t. 4, 1794; Cl in Hook.f., Fl. Brit. India 4: 137, 1883. C. indica Lamk., Dict. 7: 49, 1808. C. sebestina Forsk., FI. Aegypt.-Arab. 63, 1768. C. latifolia Roxb., FI. Ind. 2: 330, 1824. Argyreia arborea Lour., FI. Cochinch. 135, 1790. Verronia sinensis Lour., FI. Cochinch. 138, 1790. C. myxa auct. (non L., 1753); Hook.f., FI. Brit. Ind. 4: 136, 1883; Cooke, FI. Pres. Bombay. 2: 265, 1958 (Repr.).

Common names: Sebeston plum, Large Sebestan, Bhokara, Gondani.


It looks like Cordia dichotoma भोकर
Is Cordia myxa a synonym?


Cordia myxa L., and Cordia dichotoma Forst as such are distinct species
The problem arose that the name C. myxa was also used for plants from India, which is same as C. obliqua Willd., a name adopted in Flora of British India. This plant is now correctly known C. dichotoma Forst.
The plant should be cited as:
Cordia dichotoma Forst. syn: Cordia obliqua Willd.; C. myxa auct. (non L.); C. indica Lam.; C. latifolia Roxb.
Cordia myxa L. is a distinct plant now understood to be confined to Asia minor and Egypt

This plant in Hindi is known as Lisoda.



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Request for species id DKV 11062011-1:
Location: Mhow, Dist Indore, Madhya Pradesh.

Confused as to species.
I think this is Indian Cherry Cordia dichotoma (Hindi: Lasora)
A friend says it could be Grey-Leaved Sapistan, Cordia gharaf (Hindi: Gondi)
Need confirmation


yes this is
Cordia dichotoma
marathi name :- भोकर


Yes “LISORA


This is the link to this species in the Flowers of India website



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Request Tree ID 0013:
Ulsoor Lake, Bangalore


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Cordia dichotoma from Coimbatore:
Very beautiful capture, the most amazing thing for me is, this tree is common here, I am still to find it blooming.
It has no flowers on the first visit, the other day we go, we find the plant fruiting… I have to keep a strict vigil to capture flowers… thanks for sharing.


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Boraginace​ae Week : Cordia dichotoma from Coimbatore:

Location: NBNP Garden, Anaikatti, Coimbatore Dist. (640 MSL)

Date: April, 2012

Habitat: Garden

Habit: Tree



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Tree for ID : Lalbagh, Bangalore : 280412 : AK-4:
Pictures taken on the 15th of April,12 at Lalbagh, Bangalore.
A huge tree, having small round fruits.
No flowers seen when picture was taken.


Cordia myxa
भोकर


How do you differentiate between cordia myxa and cordia dichotoma ?
You missed the flowers by few weeks.
where did you take these pictures in Lalbagh?
In lalbagh cordia myxa/dichotoma can be found near the rock, near the lake, and in the car park.

Here is my note from an earlier thread
Cordia myxa L., and Cordia dichotoma Forst as such are distinct species.
The problem arose that the name C. myxa was also used for plants from India, which is same as C. obliqua Willd., a name adopted in Flora of British India. This plant is now correctly known C. dichotoma Forst.
The plant should be cited as:
Cordia dichotoma Forst.
syn: Cordia obliqua Willd.; C. myxa auct. (non L.); C. indica Lam.; C. latifolia Roxb.
Cordia myxa L. is a distinct plant now understood to be confined to Asia minor and Egypt”

These pictures were taken a little further to the tree we were trying to identify the other day. Ahead of the huge Ficus mysorensis.
I am not too familiar with Lalbagh. Visited the place after many years.
Not near the lake or the car park.



Nice photographs, but this is also Cordia dichotoma. Cordia myxa is a synonym of Cordia dichotoma. My photographs of this are available in the archives of this group.


Thanks … There is a name plate in Lalbagh, so I kept them separate.
I could never differentiate between myxa and dichotama.
Though there are wiki pages for each of them.

According to Flora of Pakistan Cordia dichotoma ( 5-8 x 1.5-3.0 cm ) differs from Cordia myxa (6-12.5 x 43-8.2 cm) in the narrower and thinner leaves, which are not subcordate at the base and smaller drupes; also calyx is ribbed and hairy in former, not in latter. I wonder if both can be found in India.



Indian cherry is a small to moderate-sized deciduous tree with a short bole and spreading crown.
The stem bark is greyish brown, smooth or longitudinally wrinkled.
Flowers are short-stalked, bisexual and white in colour, appear in loose corymbose cymes. The flowers open only at night. The fruit is a yellow or pinkish-yellow shining globose or ovoid drupe seated in a saucer-like enlarged calyx. It turns black on ripening and the pulp gets viscid. 
Indian cherry grows in the sub-Himalayan tract and outer ranges, ascending up to about 1500 m elevation.
It is found in a variety of forests ranging from the dry deciduous forests of Rajasthan to the moist deciduous forests of Western Ghats and tidal forests in Myanmar. In Maharashtra, it grows in moist monsoon forest also.
Ref. Flowers of India.


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Boraginaceae Week: Cordia dichotoma:
Cordia dichotoma
‘Bhokar’ भोकर
Medium sized tree.
Leaves alternate.; basal pair of nerves opposite, glabrous beneath.
Fruiting calyx not ribbed.


is it Pune?



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Boraginaceae Week: Cordia dichotoma Forster from Delhi:
Cordia dichotoma Forster. f., Prodr. 18.1. 1876

A medium sized tree with minutely hairy branches; leaves obovate to elliptic-ovate, up to 12 cm long, base rounded or cuneate; petiole 2-5 cm long; flowers in dichotomously branched corymbose cymes, terminating branches; male flowers shallowly 5-lobed calyx; corolla campanulate, 5-6 mm long; bosexual flowers larger with calyx accrescent in fruit; fruit a drupe, up to 15 mm, yellowish red, with sticky pulp.
Commonly planted in Delhi along roadsides. Photographed from Vikas Puri, New Delhi.
KOR-dee-uh — named for Valerius Cordus, 16th century German botanist
dy-KAW-toh-muh — divided or forked in pairsDave’s Botanary
Jun 28, 2008 … along Ghodbunder Road, Thane, Maharashtra
commonly known as: bird lime tree, clammy cherry, fragrant manjack, Indian cherry, Sebesten plum • Assamese: goborsuta • Bengali: bahubara • Gujarati: વદો ગુંદો vado gundo • Hindi: बहूआर bahuar, गुन्दा gunda, लसोड़ा lasora • Kannada: ಚಳ್ಳೆ ಹಣ್ಣು challe hannu • Malayalam: നറുവേലി naruveeli, വിരശം virasam, വിരി viri • Marathi: भोकर bhokar, गोंदणी gondani, गोंधण gondhan • Sanskrit: बहुक bahuka, बहुवारः bahuvaraha, उद्दलक uddalaka • Tamil: நறுவல்லி naru-valli, விரிசு viricu • Telugu: నెక్కర nekkara, శ్లేష్మాతకము slesmatakamu, విరిగి virigi • Urdu: سپستان sipistan
Native to: China, eastern Asia, Indian subcontinent, Indo-China, Malesia, northern Australia, south-western Pacific
References: Flowers of IndiaNPGS / GRINPIERWorld Agroforestry CentreefloraofindiaFurther Flowers of Sahyadri by Shrikant Ingalhalikar
more views: Jun 28, 2008 … along Ghodbunder Road, Thane, Maharashtra
Mar 5, 2011 … along Kumbharli Ghat, Maharashtra
Mar 22, 2009 … Nagla forest (part of Sanjay Gandhi National Park), Maharashtra
… more views on flickr.


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Boraginaceae Week :: Cordia dichotoma flowers at Mumbai:
Sharing few photographs of the Flowers of Cordia dichotoma photographed at Mumbai.



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CORDIA MYXA:
Attaching an image of Cordia myxa with fruits. S Venkatesh in his OUR TREE NEIGHBOURS writes,
The wood is ideal for producing fire by friction.—–It is very durable and is said to have been used for making the Egyptian mummy cases.”



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For ID 090712CS1:
The photo attached below is a small tree collected from some nearby village by my colleague. She says that the fruits are edible. I am sorry that I could take photos only two days after its collection due to the weekend. Can somebody identify this for me

Looks like lassora, Cordia dichotoma


Cordia dichotoma
Bhokar भोकर in Marathi



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SYMBIOSIS :218:
Attaching an image of female of a Koel eating fruit of Cordia myxa. There are two trees at this area. About a month back both the trees were having lots of fruits on them. I used to go regularly, under those trees to record the birds relishing the fruits. At last I could record only one event. With so many fruits, I thought Bulbuls, Barbets, Mynas, Koels will visit these trees. I don’t know why birds don’t like these fruits.
This tree is important to me as it connected me to Shri DCS Raju. I am not a botanist, but I am highly impressed by the type work this gentleman has done.



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Hooghly Today : Cordia myxa L. ??? : 12 images. 3 posts by 2 authors.
I found this 9 ft. small tree beside a road, growing under the dense shade of other much bigger trees. Though it is small, i think it cannot be called a shrub.
I faced some trying time to get my camera focused on the subject and finally succeeded to capture a few recognizable photographs.

Affirmative. This is Bhokar [Cordia dichotoma]. Some of my photographs of this are available at this link:

Thank you very much … I will be also monitoring this tree to see its fruits.


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Plant ID:
please ID this plant species


This is Bhokar [Cordia dichotoma, Cordia myxa]. Please check the archives of this site for my photographs of this.

I am seen your photograph.
Some body comment your photo. He is cordia dichtoma. It is totally wrong indentification in species level. But correct in genes level. It is cordia genes. Species is differ from dicotoma.
It is my suggestion. Below the identification.
Phtograph No . 1 – Cordia gharaf
It is very common in gujrat. From kutch to Dang district. 
Phtograph No. 2 . – Cordia gharaf
It is very important character is terminal and axillary cymes flower.
Phtograph No 3 – Cordia gharaf
It is same to photo 3.


yes i too think it is cordia garaf
i too have seen the same in Nashik, Maharashtra


Yes Cordia dichotoma


It is indeed Cordia species but the leaves are quite different; the fruit also not very similar to Cordia dichotoma. Let us wait for some more comments


Yes Cordia dichotoma affirmative


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Cordia sp for ID help-Reg : Attachments (4).  6 posts by 4 authors.
Please help me to identify the species of Cordia (??). photos are attached herewith

look like Cordia obliqua Willd.


efi page: Cordia dichotoma (Cordia obliqua Willd. as syn.)


Yes, I think it is Cordia dichotoma


Thanx for the id. But how come the fruits in this season? Normally the pickle of this fruit (Bhokar) is made in the summer.



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Identification Please Id No. 015 :  Attachments (4).  6 posts by 5 authors.
Place-Challakarae

Dist-Chitradurga,Karnataka
Habitat-Dry-land
Habit- Medium sized tree
Date of Pic. taken-03.08.2013

Cordia sp.


Cordia species so far in efi. with some keys.


Cordia obliqua Willd (= C. wallichii G.Don) Boraginaceae


Cordia myxa. In kannada it is called as “challe haanu” and “simbalada hannu“.


Cordia myxa also synonym of C. obliqua only



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Fwd: Identification of some tree species TK2 : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1).
Identification of some trees species from Manudevi forest Maharashtra Jalgaon

Cordia dichotoma



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ID please of this tree : 10 posts by 5 authors. Attachments (4).
This tree was photographed in South Dinajpur of West Bengal. Local villagers claim fancifully that there are only a handful of these trees in India. Is curious to know which is this tree.

looks like Cordia myxa


efi page on Cordia dichotoma
As per Singh ji:
Cordia myxa L., and Cordia dichotoma Forst as such are distinct species

     The problem arose that the name C. myxa was also used for plants from India, which is same as C. obliqua Willd., a name adopted in Flora of British India. This plant is now correctly known C. dichotoma Forst.
The plant should be cited as:
Cordia dichotoma Forst. syn: Cordia obliqua Willd.; C. myxa auct. (non L.); C. indica Lam.; C. latifolia Roxb.
Cordia myxa L. is a distinct plant now understood to be confined to Asia minor and Egypt

This looks like Cordia myxa to me too.

According to Pradip Krishen’s new book ‘Jungle Trees of Central India’ [which is fairly well researched and presented] : 
C.myxa is the accepted name and C.dichotoma is a synonym.
it closely resembles C.obliqua in the field, though C. obliqua is a smaller tree with larger, broader usually non-toothed leaves and larger fruit.
My photographs of C.myxa are available at these links :
My photographs of C.obliqua [though wrongly labelled] are available at this link :
Google Groups

It is Cordia dichotoma – common tree fruits during July,
seeds used in medicine (Lasoda), sticky fruit pulp is eaten by local people.


Seems to be Cordia myxa.


Attached herewith the KEY in Bengal Plants. Illustrations of both species can be found at-
  1. http://www.plantillustrations.org/species.php?id_species=273570
  2. http://www.plantillustrations.org/species.php?id_species=273902

Thank you and regards


I thank all those who responded. But with due respect I may point out that it is not cordia digitata (Lasoda) which is fairly common in parks of Delhi.
I am not sure about cordia myxa. I have seen the photos of this tree on internet and there appears to be no similarity between the photos of my tree and cordia myxa.
I await further comments from botanists before classifying it in my database.


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Unknown tree from Aligarh (UP) : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (11).
Attached images are unknown tree collected from Aligarh (UP). Please ID the plant sp..
Date :10.04.2014
Location: Aligarh (UP)
Family : ???
Genus & species :???
Habitat: Grows wild
Habit :Tree

This is Bhokar [Cordia myxa]. My photographs of this are available at this link : Google Groups


 


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ID Request 240614SG : 6 posts by 6 authors. Attachments (2).
Please help identify this tree 15ft
Photo taken on 09Apr14 at Mohol, Maharashtra.


Any Cordia sp. ??


The anthers are long so it can not be Cordia


Cordia dichotoma to me


This is Bhokar [Cordia myxa]. Sending a few of my photographs for comparison. Attachments (5).



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MK_KHWS-14a,15b : 3 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (2)- 1 Mb each.
Collection site: Kalsubai-Harishchandragarh Wildlife Sanctuary (KHWS),Maharashtra
Date: 15 February 2015
Collected by: …


I think Cordia dichotoma
Bhokar भोकर

I also think this is Cordia dichotoma



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Mhow Indore Madhya Pradesh: Request for Species Id. : 5 posts by 4 authors. Attachments(2)
Location Mhow Tehsil Indore District Madhya Pradesh
Is this Bada risalla/ Broad leaved Sebestan/ Cordia obliqua or Risalla/ Sebestan Plum/ Cordia myxa ?

It seems to be Cordia myxa


efi page on Cordia dichotoma (syn. Cordia obliqua Willd.);
As per …:
Cordia myxa L., and Cordia dichotoma Forst as such are distinct species

The problem arose that the name C. myxa was also used for plants from India, which is same as C. obliqua Willd., a name adopted in Flora of British India. This plant is now correctly known C. dichotoma Forst.
The plant should be cited as:
Cordia dichotoma Forst. syn: Cordia obliqua Willd.; C. myxa auct. (non L.); C. indica Lam.; C. latifolia Roxb.
Cordia myxa L. is a distinct plant now understood to be confined to Asia minor and Egypt


Yes, looks like Cordia dichotoma G. Forst.


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Tree for ID :: Devgad, Konkan, May 2017 :: ARKMAY10 : 11 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (5)

This tree was seen on a mountain top near Devgad, MH in May 2017.
Requested to please provide ID.


It seems to be some species of Cordia


Cordia species with comparative images in efi so far.
Pl. also check with images at Cordia sinensis Lam.

Cordia dichotoma


Thanks … for the ID.
The leaves, however, look very different, here they seem smaller. Besides, their shape is not circular, like the other C. dichotoma trees that I have seen.


Looking at the fruits and other characters it could be Cordia obliqua. But to confirm the ID one needs to check floral characters.

Yes. The leaf shape and margin is variable. Fruits should have been smaller, globose and orange if it were C sinensis.  


Thank you … for the confirmation.



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02092017BHAR2 : 14 posts by 5 authors. Attachments (2) – 2 MB each.

Found in Yelagiri hills of Eastern ghats.
The fruit pulp is used as gum by local people.


Is it not Lisora.


Thanks, …  You are correct.


Cordia


Yes. It is correct.


To me appears more close to images at Cordia sinensis Lam. as per comparative images at Cordia

Pl check for Cordia dichotoma


The fruit colour do not match with Cordia sinensis

It is Cordia dichotoma G.Forst.,


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Cordia myxa vs Cordia dichotoma : 3 posts by 3 authors.
Can anyone guide me to the differences in Cordia myxa and Cordia dichotoma?
the two species are confusing as i think there are minor differences between the two.

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Cordia dichotoma from Kurukshetra University Campus… : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (9)
Here am attaching some details of Cordia dichotoma (Boraginaceae) shot from Kurukshetra University Campus in April.


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at Sagargad, Alibag– Aug’09?; Id080909phk 2 – indiantreepix | Google Groups


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Request for ID – 301110SC1:
This photo I could take on cell phone only as that time I was not having
camera with me. So the picture quality is not very good, but if someone can please identify the tree for me.
Date / Time – 27th Nov.. 2010 / 11.00 am.
Location – Place /Altitude / GPS – Versova, Mumbai
Habitat – Garden/ Urban/ Wild / Type – Urban
Plant Habit – Tree/Shrub / Climber /Herb – Tree
Height /Length –  about 25-30 ft.
Fruits Type /Shape /Size / Seeds – Yellow coloured round ripe fruits.

looks like cordia


Agreed. This is Cordia dichotoma [C.myxa] locally called Bhokar. Please check the archives of this group for my photographs of this tree.



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Pls help in identifying this plant 03 : 8 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (2)
Does this look like Karanj (Pongamia pinnata)

No. It is not.


Looks like RhamnaceaeZiziphus sps. ???


Cordia dichotoma


so when it flowers and fruits, i am sure you will photograph it and share here to confirm.
interesting plant


yes …, That is what i am aiming at. I do not even know when this will flower. I’ll have to wait.


good. keep an eye on it. now that you know the name. easier now to do your own searches
and learn about your plant and teach us


Yes … Very good suggestion.



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Synonyms: Cordia indica, Cordia myxa (popular), Varronia sinensis
KOR-dee-uh — named for Valerius Cordus, 16th century German botanist
dy-KAW-toh-muh — divided or forked in pairs

Native to: China, eastern Asia, Indian subcontinent, Indo-China, Malesia, northern Australia, south-western Pacific
Edible use:
… the unripe fruits (as VEGETABLE) pickled in Konkan (and elsewhere in s-e Asia)
… the ripe fruits (as FRUIT) in rural area of Konkan

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sanskrit shloka on trees:
Sometime back there was a mail containing a Sanskrit shloka suggesting plants for various directions. Unfrtunately am not able to trace it just now.
I have a few doubts:
1. By chilla/pimpri is meant ficus benjamina or caeesaria tomentosa?
2. By Indian cherry/bhokar is meant ziziphus (ber) or lasora (cordia dichotoma.


–  It may be the link to the earlier thread


– I have noted this from Marathi newspaper and I’m trying to send the shloka to the right person for correct  translation, I tried to get some names in common english names, based on the marathi trnaslation given in the newspaper & with my poor knowledge, request you that together will sort out this names once I get the
translation in english or marathi, then only we can come to know about the correctness of this shloka,
Please bear with this delay,
Hope this helps,
I have also learnt about Panchavati in Nasik that they have five trees in five directions because of which the Panchvati the name is derived and also has good healthy pollution free air and is advised for outing for sick
people; it is in Nasik of Maharashtra almost 250km away from mumbai. will also send you the information with right source,

– just cdn’t stop checking on ur query: I have tried to collect the following infor.
it is  Cordia dichotoma
marathi name bhokar
for Pimpri:
at flicker of .. <
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/3957722897/>
.. has explaind that “Ficus amplisimma” sathi “Pimpri” ha Marathi paryayi shabda ala ahe
ilustration : <
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=86858&flora_id=5


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cordia dichotoma:
Cordia dichotoma, at my place in abaug.
the flowers are growing right at the base of the trunk of the tree



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I’d plz Cordia spp. ?? : 6 posts by 5 authors. Attachments (4)
I’d plz Cordia spp. ??
At Amirgadh between Palanpur and Abu road, Gujarat

Cordia dichotoma  ???

Cordia myxa L. ??


I too agree with …


I think it should be Cordia dichotoma as per images and details herein, as suggested by …
Pl. check discussions at Please identify this tree near Powai lake ID02 and Cordia myxa flowers


Images by (Aarti Khale – Id by Gurcharan Singh) 

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Fruits for ID : 190611 : AK-3:

Found in one of the parks here at Muscat, Oman on the 16th of June, 2011.
A cultivated medium sized tree, laden with fruits.
My friend tried eating one of the ripe fruits out of many fallen down. She described it as sweet and very sticky, left an odd feeling in the throat for a long time.
Ripe fruits were about 1 inch.
Any clues?


Yes … is right
it is Cordia, I hope C. dichotoma


Cordia myxa ( भोकर )


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Boraginaceae Week :: Cordia dichotoma : Oman : AK:
Cordia dichotoma seen in a park here in Muscat, Oman on the 16th of June,2011.
Identified on our group earlier.
Have yet to catch the flowering.
Tried this year too, got to see fruiting stage again.


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first one of the three cordia species : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (4).
Cordia species with small fruits off white in colour. pls help in ID

Cordia dichotoma



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second species in three cordia species : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (4).
this plant with big size fruits like big amla. big and leathery leaves

Cordia dichotoma again


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Boraginaceae Week :: Cordia dichotoma at CBD Belapur Hills:
Came across this Cordia sp in its fruiting stage at CBD Belapur hills, Navi Mumbai.
Bot.name: Cordia dichotoma
Family: Boraginaceae
Date/Time: 17-04-2010 /08:45 AM
Habitat: Wild
Plant Habit: Tree (Medium sized)



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MS/July/2021/3 – ID of the Cordia dpecies : 10 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (1)
I am attaching herewith a photo (combo) received from a friend in Chennai. For me it looks like Cordia myxa looking at the leaves and the size of the tree. However on checking the efloraofindia   on this species it is merged with the C.dichotoma.
efi page on Cordia dichotoma   .  Extract  submitted  for ready reference :
As per Singh ji:

Cordia myxa L., and Cordia dichotoma Forst as such are distinct species

     The problem arose that the name C. myxa was also used for plants from India, which is same as C. obliqua Willd., a name adopted in Flora of British India. This plant is now correctly known C. dichotoma Forst.
The plant should be cited as:
Cordia dichotoma Forst. syn: Cordia obliqua Willd.; C. myxa auct. (non L.); C. indica Lam.; C. latifolia Roxb.
Cordia myxa L. is a distinct plant now understood to be confined to Asia minor and Egypt “
  According to Pradip Krishen’s new book ‘Jungle Trees of Central India’ [which is fairly well researched and presented] : 
– C.myxa is the accepted name and C.dichotoma is a synonym
My queries :
(1)  Which is the correct form of accepted name and which is the synonym ?
(2)  Suggest the correct citation for the picture I have posted.
Please clarify.

Thanks, … I think … is correct in the matter.
POWO gives Cordia dichotoma G. Forster as the accepted name as is Catalogue of Life also.

We can’t just pick up accepted name and synonym without authority name. No doubt Cordia myxa L. and Cordia dichotoma G. Forst are distinct species according to Kew Database (the most authentic at present), Catalogue of Life and World Flora Online.

       As understood now both occur in India, C. myxa differentiated by broader leaves (6-12 cm long, 4-8 cm broad), rounded to subcordate at base, drupe usually 20 mm long. C. dichotoma, on the other hand has smaller and narrower leaves (5-8 cm long, less than 3 cm broad, with cuneate base, fruit less than 15 mm.
      You may check up details, but shape of leaves suggests C. myxa.

Thanks, …, If that is the case, may I request you to pl. look at efi posts in our database, which are all in the same page at C.dichotoma.


Thanks … The fact that both are called and used as Lasura in India has created lot of confusion on the internet, even Wikipedia, even Flowers of India. We have to proceed carefully. I think this looks to be typical C. dichotoma: http://tropical.theferns.info/image.php?id=Cordia+dichotoma 


I agree with you sir.


May I request you to pl. upload image of the page of Pradip Krishan’s book.

Book link
Please check the above link. Nevertheless, I am unable to get into the page now..


I think then it is of no use.



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Id plz… : 3 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (2)
My first posting….Id plz.
Habit – Medium sized tree
Location – Kihim Alibag Raigad MH
Photos were large in size hence sending screenshots.


The fruits and leaves look like Cordia species 

But. I am not familiar with the species, maybe C. dichotoma G.Forst or maybe C. myxa L.
I my be wrong. Please wait for our experts’ views

Seems like a Cordia species to me too.


This should be Cordia dichotoma G. Forst. (Bhokar)


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Cordia dichotoma : 1 post by 1 author. Attachments (2)
Shrub seen near a lake.
Not very sure if growing wild or cultivated.
Id by …


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Tree Id from Bangladesh SM047 : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1).
Habit: Tree
Habitat: Plain Land

Location: Panchagar
Fruiting: May


Looks like a Cordia sp.


Cordia dichotoma


I concur with …



19052014NVR2 Tree from Hollant Beach Goa for ID : 4 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (3).
Native Cordia sp

Could be Cordia dichotama. Only flowers can confirm.


This is also a species of Cordia.


Seems Cordia myxa


Now C.dichotama. C.myxa is now merged with C.dichotama ???



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SK 29421 7 August 2021: 3 very high res. images.
Location: Far West, Nepal
Altitude: 1200m.
Date: July 2021
Habit : Wild


Cordia


Only 2 sp. in Nepal
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=107975 !

According to the elevation I guess it matches with Cordia dichotoma Forster.
Please validate.

It might be Cordia grandis …, because seems tomentose or small hairy below,
Leaf margin toothed near the apex, surface rough but hairless ……. C. dichotoma
Leaf margin entire, stellate tomentose beneath ……….. C. grandis


There is about 2400 ft. difference. Would it be possible?


Yes, it’s possible


Where did you get the keys from ?

With these images, I would like to go for Cordia dichotoma only, as per images and details herein.
Not much details on the net of Cordia grandis. Appears quite uncommon except specimens in GBIF.
I found the description of Cordia grandis from IBIS Flora from FBI:
Roxb. Fl. Ind. ed. Carey & Wall. ii. 335 ; leaves large ovate 3-5-nerved scabrous above mature glabrous or scarcely villous beneath, corymbs large dense, flowers small pubescent or scarcely tomentose, berry at most 1/2 in. ellipsoid very obtuse. Wall. Cat. 892 ; DC. Prodr. ix. 481; Kurz For. Fl. ii. 208. C. cordifolia, Wall. Cat. 894.
Assam, Griffith, &c. Chittagong ; H. f. & T., &c. Pegu ; Kurz.—Distrib. Aya.
A large tree. Leaves 3-6 in., acute or obtuse, scabrid with very small rough points, base 3-5-nerved; petiole 1-2.1/2 in. Corymbs terminal, female many-flowered, male dense. Calyx at flower-time scarcely 1/6 in., tubular-campanulate. Corolla-lobes 4, 1/8-1/6 in. Stamens 4. Berry usually 1/3 by 1/5 in., 1-2-seeded ; fruiting-calyx scarcely 1/3 in wide. Leaves feather-nerved not (or obscurely) 3-nerved at the base.


Thank you …! Agree with you.


That keys myself made from the description of the World trees book, to easily differentiate, still, I am feeling it’s something different from dichotoma,
Even you’re right that might be ecological differentiation, will conform with complete information,
if possible get some more information,

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MS,Oct.,2021/16 Cordia sp. for id.: 1 very high res. image.
Location : Tamdil

Date : 11-11-2015
Habit : Tree
Habitat : Wild

I think it is close to images at Cordia dichotoma G.Forst. as per comparative images at Cordia.
Do any other species reported from your area?



Yes, appears to be Cordia dichotoma G.Forst. as per keys also.


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Small Tree for ID : Cordia Species : Nasik : 29APR22 : AK – 10: 7 images.
Cordia Species seen by the roadside.
For Species id please.


Cordia dichotoma


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Tree identification request: 2 high res. images.
Please help me in identifying this tree, due to the absence of flowers or fruit and dry foliage. I only have very limited information on this one. But since it was found in only one sampling site, I have to decode its identity.

Habitat : Rocky Area
Location: Central Ridge Reserve Forest, Delhi
Date : June 2022
Height : 3-4 mtrs
The tree was mostly dry and thus I couldn’t get good images of foliage and new leaf only in some branches.
Heavy grazing at the site.

Cordia myxa ….. Lasora


Looks different !!!


I think id may be correct as per images at Cordia dichotoma


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SK 3632 04 September 2022: 1 very high res. image.

Location: Cheda, Surkhet,  Nepal
Altitude:  1000m.
Date:  02 April 2022
Habit : Wild 

Pl. check with images at Cordia dichotoma G.Forst.


I concur with … ID suggestion.


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Tree identification request: 2 high res. images.
Please help me in identifying this tree, due to the absence of flowers or fruit and dry foliage. I only have very limited information on this one. But since it was found in only one sampling site, I have to decode its identity.

Habitat : Rocky Area
Location: Central Ridge Reserve Forest, Delhi
Date : June 2022
Height : 3-4 mtrs
The tree was mostly dry and thus I couldn’t get good images of foliage and new leaf only in some branches. Heavy grazing at the site.

Cordia myxa ….. Lasora.


Looks different !!!


I think id may be correct as per images at Cordia dichotoma


Thankyou … I was confused because of the size of the leaf, but maybe because these are new growth. This group has been tremendous support for me. Thank you everyone for helping new researchers like me.


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SK 3673 17 January 2023: 5 high res. images.

Location: Jalthal, Jhapa, East Nepal
Date: 01 January 2023
Elevation: 97 m.
Habitat: Wild

I think it will be difficult to id, with these images.


Locals said it to be पाडरी Stereospermum chelonoides but looks different.


Any chance for
https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/26/pterospermum/


Boraginaceae, Cordia species only.


Cordia dichotoma G.Forst. ??


Might be another sp


Only 2 sp. recorded in Nepal : Another is Cordia grandis Roxb.


If possible try with sexual organs


https://www.gbif.org/species/5341270 ???


Yes, Cordia is more likely.


Cordia dichotoma G.Forst. ?? ?


Yes, possible as per images at
https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/19/cordia-dichotoma/


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Regarding the Id Of the Species 030323PKD1: 8 high res. images.
Herewith I am attaching the species photographs which i have taken in last month of 2023, from Bhanjanagar Odisha


boraginaceae member??? I too had similar collection


Yes, you seem to be right.


Cordia dichotoma G.Forst. ??


yes it looks like Cordia species


Yes, this appears to be quite interesting.

I check species mentioned in the Flora of Peninsular India.
After going through the specimens, I find it closer to Cordia perrottetii as per GBIF specimen (one and two), FlickrIMPFlora of Peninsular IndiaPOWO
What do you think?

Any views?


So I keep it as Cordia perrottetii


But it is not matching with the description given in FPM by Gamble. let us wait,  till fruit


Go with Cordia macleodii.


Looks different from images at
https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/19/cordia-macleodii/


Buds also look different from Cordia macleodii. Pl. see a very high res. attached image.


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cordia_dichotoma_flowers_and_foliage.jpg ??


Ok, I will check Cordia dichotoma again.


Yes, I will go for it (Cordia dichotoma) as per images at
https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/19/cordia-dichotoma/


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Cordia dichotoma G.Forst. :: Shirgaon, Palghar :: Feb 26, 2023 · JUN23 DV435: 4 images.

Cordia dichotoma G.Forst.
Shirgaon, Palghar :: Feb 26, 2023 · 10:41 AM IST :: about 14 m (46 ft) asl
Many thanks to Radha Veach for validating the ID at iNaturalist

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Cordia dichotoma G.Forst. :: Thane, Maharashtra :: Apr 6, 2008 · JUN23 DV524: 2 images.

Cordia dichotoma G.Forst.
Thane, Maharashtra :: Apr 6, 2008 · 9:32 AM IST :: about 11 m (36 ft) asl
Many thanks to Radha Veach and Bharat Godambe for validating the ID at iNaturalist

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Cordia dichotoma G.Forst. :: Thane, Maharashtra :: Mar 15, 2008 · JUN23 DV526: 2 images.

Cordia dichotoma G.Forst.
Thane, Maharashtra :: Mar 15, 2008 · 5:08 PM IST :: about 11 m (36 ft) asl
Many thanks to Tabish for suggesting the ID at flickr; and to Radha for validating at iNaturalist

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475 ID tree overgrown: 17 high res. images.
Please ID tree overgrown,
Location: bloomed at Jal Mahal, Jaipur Rajasthan INDIA
Altitude: 1400fsl
Flower date: 17APR2023, 08.20pm
Habitat: roadside
Plant habit: tree overgrown, erect, branches, branchlets, hard woody stem 50 inches base circumference, rough brown corked bark
Height: 07 meters
Leaves: alternate, heart shaped, acute simple glossy size upto:08×6cm
Flower: axillary panicle inflorescence, clustered, diameter:08mm, off white, good fragrance
Fruit: berry green ovoid size:02×1cm
Seed:
Camera: CANON EOS1500D +FL10x


Cordia species. C.dichotoma ???


Yes, it is Cordia dichotoma, dear …, thank you very much for ID my tree


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Ehretiaceae: Cordia dichotoma G. Forst.: 2 images.
synonym: Cordia myxa L.
location/date (both): Tarubanda village, Melghat Wildlife Sanctuary, Amravati Distr., Maharashtra, November 1994


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Ehretiaceae: Cordia macleodii Hook.f. & Thomson: 1 image.
location/date: Barha, Jabalpur Distr., Madhya Pradesh, October 1994

I am having a bit of doubt due to greenish under surface of the leaf and other factors.

Cordia sinensis Lam.: Cordia gharaf Ehrenb. ex Asch. ??


Cordia myxa. !


Yes, this is most likely as per details at
https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/19/cordia-dichotoma/


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cordia dichotoma:
cordia dichotoma two weeks ago the flowers were growing at the base of the trunk


– Really large tree. I have seen on smaller ones in Delhi.


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