Herb for ID-1 : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (4).

Please help me to identify this small herb seen as epiphyte on a tree fern.
The plant was about 15-16 cm in height growing in the moss laden habitat in semi evergreen forest areas.
Flowers was about 0.8-1cm
across. Leaves hairy.

Interesting plant. Looks like a member of Sonerila (?) group of Melastomaceae. Eager to know the id.

This is Sarcopyramis nepalensis Wall.
You rightly guessed the family i.e. Melastomataceae.

Thanks a lot …, for the id. Never seen this plant (in Northeast) nor heard the name.
Thanks … for posting the pictures here. Could you pl tell us from where did you collect this?


Re: [efloraofindia:209233] Herb from Uttarakhand: ID Requested : 9 posts by 5 authors. Attachments (4)

Please, Id this herb.
Collected ca. 1900 m asl.
Hairy herb to 15 cm, unbranched.

Sarcopyramis sp (Melastomaceae).

Species need to be checked. See link in efloraofindia
It seems it is not known in West Himalaya.
Check carefully for species.
You are exploring your area very thoroughly. Good work.

S. napalensis (leaves 5-10 cm long) is reported from Nepal, adjacent to Uttarakhand.

Sir, I Thanks both of you.
I w’ll check it critically at my level, i was also observing it under Melastomaceae but fruit characters diverted me.

Pl. also check Sarcopyramis bodinieri H. Léveillé & Vaniot as per FOC Illustration although no distribution in India

I think that is Sarcopyramis napalensis Wall., Tent. Fl. Napal. 1: 32. t. 23. 1824
Type: Nepal: Sheopore [Shivapuri ], Chandaghiry
I am not sure if Sarcopyramis humilis M. P. Nayar, J. Bombay Nat. Hist. Soc. 71(1): 170. 1974
Type: Frontier of Tibet and Burma, Nogmung, Kingdon Ward 6647 (K).
is a separate species or a synonym, probably the latter.

I thank all the experts for their attention and assistant in identification of this plant.
Finally, i am taking it as Sarcopyramis napalensis Wall. (Melastomataceae).

Sarcopyramis nepalensis (Melastomataceae) from Sikkim : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1)
Common in grassy slopes, forest floors, undergrowths, meadows and streamsides at 1600– 2300 m altitudes.
Herbs up to 30 cm high
Fambonglho Wildlife Sanctuary, East Sikkim
Flowering and fruiting: June – November

This species was earlier known in Eastern Himalaya and Nepal Himalaya. Recently it was recorded as new generic record from Western Himalaya (Kumaon Uttarakhand) by Dr Pusalkar (BSI). More recently a research student from Garhwal University found it further westward in Garhwal region of Uttarakhand and I identified the species through his pics.
Nice to see it in its actual homeland.

Thank you Sir for the information about the extended distribution of the species.
I find that ‘napalensis’ is the original spelling of the specific epithet used by Wallich and therefore I think that this spelling gets protection from the Code.

MS Oct.,2017/02 Sarcopyramis sp. for id : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2)

Location : Sailam, Mizoram
Date : 14-10-2017
Habit : Herb
Habitat : Wild

Sarcopyramis nepalensis Wall.

SK814 20 OCT-2017:ID : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (10)

Location:  Deurali, Dolkha, Nepal
Date: 6 September 2017
Elevation : 7700 ft.

Sarcopyramis napalensis Wall.

Sarcopyramis napalensis Wall. : 5 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (3)
Location:  Shivapuri National Park, Nepal 
Date: 25 August 2018
Elevation:6800 ft.
Habit : Wild

the four mer flower with its unique petal shape looks like what was described in this paper but i cant discern any hair on the leaves, besides may be rain caused flower center in pic 2 to look like mush, and all those bright reflections on leaves reflecting your flash is precluding viewer from discerning any hairs

Yes rain is the culprit.


Sarcopyramis napalensis Wall. : 5 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (7)- around 750 kb each.
Location: Sundarijal, Kathmandu
Date: 30 July  2019
Elevation: 1613 m.
Habit : Wild   

seems to match. can you tell me the size of the flower please

Need to visit site again !

is it that near?


30 September 2019.
Attachments (1) – 6 mb.


Gentianaceae? Acantaceae?: 3 images.
I observed a plant possibly in the Gentianaceae or Acantaceae family I would like to identify;

Location; Arunachal Pradesh, Upper siang District
Altitude: 2300 m a.s.l.
Growing in shades forest floor.
Does anyone recognise this? Genus only, or even confirmed family only is also much appreciated! Thank you!

Pl. check

To me appears close.

When was it clicked?

These pictures were taken last October, like 22-10-2022

After some quick searching, a source ( Check List 17 (1): 233–237, https://pubag.nal.usda.gov/catalog/7282727) tells me there are only two species in India represented for this Genus;

S. subramanii and the allied S. nepalensis.
Judging from pictures I find in scientific articles so far I must say my species is neither one of these…
Posibly a new record for India, or possibly even a new species??
Sarcopyramis bodinieri from neighbouring Yunnan & Tibet does not fit the discription either…
Probably much to early to conclude such a thing, but daunting!

Why not S. nepalensis ?

Sarcopyramis napalensis Wall. seems to be the correct ID !

Well it might be a variety of that species possibly, but none of the pictures I can find on the Internet (many of them are from genuine botanical trustworthy websites) show this marbled pattern and colouration on the leaf surface

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