Tamarix ramosissima Ledeb., Fl. Altaic. 1: 424 1829. (syn: Tamarix altaica Niedenzu; Tamarix amurensis Hort. ex Chow; Tamarix odessana Stev. ex Bunge; Tamarix pallasii var. ramosissima (Ledeb.) Bunge; Tamarix pentandra Pall.; Tamarix ramosissima var. macedonica K. Micevski; Tamarix tetrandra Szovits ex Bunge);

Listed in Ladakh as per Ladakh checklist by L. Klimeš and B. Dickoré (2009);

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China (Gansu, Nei Mongol, Ningxia, Qinghai, Xinjiang), W-Tibet, Northern Caucasus, Georgia [Caucasus], Armenia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Ukraine, Crimea, E-European Russia, ?Libya (I), Afghanistan (Badakshan, Baghlan, Bamyan, Helmand, Herat, Jawzjan / Sar-e-Pol, Kabul, Kandahar, Nimroz, Samangan), Pakistan (Baluchistan), Mongolia, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Iran (EC-Iran, NE-Iran: Mts., N-Iran, Iranian Aserbaijan, S-Iran), Iraq (NE-Iraq, NW-Iraq, SE-Iraq: Mesopotamia, S-Iraq, W-Iraq: Desert), USA (I) (Arkansas (I), Arizona (I), California (I), Colorado (I), Georgia (I), Kansas (I), Louisiana (I), Mississippi (I), North Carolina (I), North Dakota (I), Nebraska (I), New Mexico (I), Nevada (I), Oklahoma (I), South Carolina (I), South Dakota (I), Texas (I), Utah (I), Virginia (I)), Argentina (I), Mexico (I), Mozambique (I), Namibia (I), Greece (I) (incl. Kiklades (I)), Macedonia (I), East Aegaean Isl. (I), South Africa (I) (Cape Prov. (I)) as per Catalogue of Life;

Five-stamen Tamarisk, Salt-cedar;

 


Tamarix ramosissima, commonly known as saltcedar[1] or salt cedar, is a deciduous arching shrub with reddish stems, feathery, pale green foliage, and characteristic small pink flowers.

Tamarix ramosissima is a hardy shrub or small tree native to Europe and Asia. It is a vigorous, deciduous shrub grown for its ornamental reddish stems, its showy plumes of flowers, and its unusual feathery leaves. Its hardiness and tolerance for poor soil make it a popular, easy to grow shrub. It can grow up to 8 m in height and up to 5 m in width. It can be used as a screen, windbreak, informal hedge or specimen shrub.[2]
It produces upright racemes of small, pink, five-petaled flowers from late summer to early autumn which cover the new wood of the plant. It is tolerant of many soil types, but prefers a well drained, light or sandy soil in full sun. This plant is considered an invasive species in warmer climates.[2]
(from Wikipedia on 22.11.17)

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Tamarix aphylla (L.) Karst. (accepted name) ?? : 8 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (4)
Location: Way to Nubra Valley , Nepal
Altitude: 11000 ft.
Date: 22 August 2014

efi page on Tamarix aphylla                                          


please confirm it by following attached literature…  Attachments (2)


Please confirm location where the Tamarix was photographed.

Where is Nubra Valley, Nepal?


That was mistake ! Leh ! on the way to Nubra Valley, Ladakh


Thanks.  As most of your posts are from Nepal, I wondered if it was a part of that country I was unfamiliar with.
To begin with, your images do appear to be of a Tamarix, rather than Myricaria both in Tamaricaceae.
Tamarix – the nomenclature (and taxonomy) of this genus is complicated. Like so many others.
I recollect seeing what I assumed was a Tamarix during my first expedition to Ladakh but we did not collect a pressed specimen to check the identity.
I prepared a check-list for Ladakh in the 1980s listing Tamarix troupii Hole (syn. T.gallica) as they only species present.
Stewart listed 15 species from Pakistan & Ladakh with T.indica Willd. (syn. T.gallica L. var. indica) as a Dubia.
Dickore & Klimes in the most up-to-date check-list for Ladakh list Tamarix ramosissima Ledeb. – Stewart only knew this from Baluchistan.
As for Tamarix aphylla (l.) Karst.  – Stewart records this as the largest and commonest species in Pakistan, thriving in saline soils, frequently planted as a roadside tree. But NOT from Ladakh.
As Tamarix ramosissima Ledeb. is an Accepted Name in the latest ‘The Plant List’, my current vote would be to go with Dickore.

IF a specialist in the genus can explain otherwise, then fine.


Is this the same plant?


No, I do not think that Tamarix aphylla (L.) Karst. is the SAME as the Tamarix found in Ladakh – which I understand to be T.ramosissima Ledeb.
I repeat that this is a complicated genus with Stewart listing 15 species + 1 Dubia from Pakistan.
He considered T.aphylla (recorded from Sind, Baluchistan, NWFP (Peshawar), Punjab etc. the largest and commonest species (which thrives in saline soils).  Frequently planted as a roadside tree.
The above information fits the location of plant on the FoI but I cannot be certain (unless there are no other tree-sized species in the region).
I have MORE THAN enough to focus on plants from the Himalaya (at least 1500-2000m or more), so cannot justify the time to check this further/confirm the identify of the plant photographed in Delhi.

Both are accepted names in ‘The Plant List’ – but I shall leave the pleasure of sorting out correct identification and any taxonomic revisions of lower-altitude Tamarisks to others!



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myricaria germanica: Had seen this Shrub at Nubra Valley, Ladakh.
Requesting you all to validate the ID..
Bot. name: Myricaria germanica ?
Family: Tamaricaceae
Date/Time: 20-09-2011 / 09:30AM
Location: Nubra Valley
Plant Habit: Shrub
Habitat: Wild.

The Indian plant is correctly known as M. bracteata Royle (syn: M. germanica var. alopecuroides (Schrenk) Kitam.), typical M. germanica a Europaean and Russian species.
Common in river sides ajnd streams in Kashmir.


Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please, in view of discussions in another post at Myricaria bracteata Royle from Kashmir for validation-GS31102020-2


This may be M. squamosa, fascicled racemes.


This is Tamarix ramosissima Ledeb.

 

tamarisk for id mm1 25 06 2011:

These photographs were taken in july 2008 during a trip to ladakh.
this was growing on the banks of river Indus
Would really appreciate an id


Tamarix sp. ?????


Myricaria germanica (L.) Desv. subsp. alopecuroides (Schrenk) Kitam


Yes near the Indus river bridge, I had seen this plant on last year.


Can’t be Myricaria whose plants are mostly small shrubs mostly less than 2 m tall

Some Tamarix species I hope.


Looks very close to Tamarix ramosissima


Thank you for this possible id


Thanks, … But neither POWO nor Catalogue of Life give any distibution of Tamarix ramosissima Ledeb. in India (also in BSI Flora of India as per details at Tamarix‎)


I have collected Tamarix gallica from Nubra valley along the river bank of Shyok river. Myricaria squamosa and Myricaria elegans these two species found in both Leh as well as Nubra valleys. This picture is looking like Myricaria squamosa which is more common in Ladakh.

For Confirmation I don’t have any proof sample now.


Myricaria squamosa won’t grow taller than 2 m, also lateral inflorescences are much shorter

https://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/407961.html


Thanks, … But neither POWO nor Catalogue of Life give any distibution of Tamarix gallica L. in India (also in BSI Flora of India as per details at Tamarix‎)


Probably that species may be synonymous with other Tamarix species like T. indica etc. that also need to be considered. But I can’t confirm anything on this sample. Anyway proper identify and any confusion need to be clarified in this broad platform. I will always be with the suggestions and  any further development in this regard.


May I request you to post high resolution images to check the details.


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it was photographed in August 2008. unfortunately I have only this photograph.

I am attaching a larger resolution image and hope that it is useful
2 images.


Thanks, … Taking it as Tamarix ramosissima as per discussions at Tamarix ramosissima in FOI


Neither POWO nor Catalogue of Life give any distibution of Tamarix ramosissima Ledeb. in India (also in BSI Flora of India as per details at Tamarix‎).

… image has been identified as Myricaria squamosa

…, the second image in FOI by … is what we have in our database as Myricaria squamosa (earlier as M. germanica). Needs to be checked.


Thanks …, Indeed, it is not listed in India, although the distribution map (if accurate) in POWO, shows its distribution bordering Ladakh. Ladakh checklist by L. Klimeš and B. Dickoré mentions Tamarix ramosissima in Ladakh. I don’t know how updated it is.

I think Ladakh checklist by L. Klimeš and B. Dickoré was published in 2009 as per
I think it should be more reliable as far as Ladakh Flora is concerned. BSI Flora of India may have been published much earlier.
Images in POWO seem to match.


I could not find the published version of Klimes & Dickore’s list, but the attached paper explores the Flora of Nubra valley, and lists Tamarix ramosissima. Nubra valley is where we found it.

1 attachment- Nubra Valley Flora.pdf


Thanks, … As they have put it on the web as per https://www.butbn.cas.cz/klimes/desert.html, it should be as good as published.
Recently Flora of Ladakh: An Annotated Inventory of Flowering Plants by Achuta Nand Shukla & S. K. Srivastava was published in Feb.2020.
But I do not know how to get access other than buying.


Here it is for you.

1 attachment- pdf


Thanks, … It only mentions T.dioca and T.indica.


In view of the confusion, what to take as final id ?


I think we can assume it as Tamarix ramosissima for now, as the Ladakh checklist by L. Klimeš and B. Dickoré lists it, and also the paper BULL. BOT. SURV. INDIA, Vol. 42, Nos. 1-4 : pp. 81-90, 2000, lists Tamarix ramosissima in the plants of Nubra Valley. Moreover the images seem to agree with those of Tamarix ramosissima at POWO, as … pointed out.


… image has been confirmed as Tamarix ramosissima Ledeb. by Miroslav ji.


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