Lindenbergia muraria (Roxb. ex D. Don) Brüh (syn: Lindenbergia pusilla Hochst. ex E. Chiovenda; Lindenbergia ruderalis Kuntze; Lindenbergia urticiifolia Lehm.; Stemodia littoralis Boiss.; Stemodia muraria Roxb. ex D. Don; Stemodia ruderalis Blanco (ambiguous synonym); Stemodia ruderalis Vahl (ambiguous synonym)) as per Catalogue of Life;
Lindenbergia muraria (Roxb. ex D. Don) P. Bruehl (Syn: Stemodia muraria Roxb. ex D. Don; Lindenbergia urticaefolia Lehm. in Link & Otto) as per SCROPHULARIACEOUS TAXA IN BANGLADESH by MOHAMMAD OLIUR RAHMAN1- Bangladesh J. Plant Taxon. 13(2): 139-154, 2006 (December);
China (Guangdong, Guangxi, Guizhou, Hubei, Sichuan, Yunnan), Thailand, Vietnam,
Laos, Cambodia, Sri Lanka, India, Ethiopia, Oman (Dhofar), Myanmar [Burma]
(Shan, Yangon), Bhutan, Darjeeling, Sikkim, Nepal, Bangladesh
as per Catalogue of Life;

lin-den-BER-jee-uh — named for J. B. G. Lindenberg, German lawyer and bryologist
mur-AY-ree-uh — from the Greek murus (wall)

commonly known as: wall lindenbergia • Bengali: হলদি বসন্ত haladi basanto • Gujarati: પથ્થર ચટ્ટી patthar-chatti • Hindi: पत्थर चट्टी patthar-chatti, pindru • Marathi: ढोल dhol • Nepalese: बाघ मुखे घाँस bagh mukhe ghans
… … … … any validations for the Hindi name, pindru ?

Native to: s China, Afghanistan, India, Myanmar, Pakistan, Thailand, Vietnam

Upper lip is the best diagnostic feature to separate Lindenbergia muraria and Lindenbergia indica
 
As per SCROPHULARIACEOUS TAXA IN BANGLADESH by MOHAMMAD OLIUR RAHMAN1- Bangladesh J. Plant Taxon. 13(2): 139-154, 2006 (December):

 

A densely glandular-hairy, annual or perennial herb. Leaves ovate. Corolla 2-lipped, the upper lip pubescent inside, lower lip rounded (lower lip conspicuously plicate, lobes oblong-ovate as per Flora of China) (upper lip truncate, emarginated as per Flora of China). Capsule pubescent (Capsule ovoid-globose as per Flora of China) at the apex in Lindenbergia muraria.

 

An erect annual herb. Leaves ovate. Corolla pubescent outside, upper lip shortly bifid with the divisions, lower lip with oblong. Capsule oblong in Lindenbergia indica.

 

 

 


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Lindenbergia indica/ABDEC15 : 7 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (2)
Speaking of nettles, I found these Nettle Leaved Lindenbergia (Dogflower family) growing again in the stone walls.

Nettle Leaved Lindenbergia–Lindenbergia indica
Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP

6 December 2014


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I found several plants of Lindenbergia indica today (15.8.15) and took some photographs to add to the previous ones.

5 images.


I have a sneaking suspicion that at least one (large leaved) could be L. muraria. Please advise.


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Found this plant with dry seed pods and thought of sharing here. 4 images.

Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
1800m

27 March 2016


very diligent follow up. appreciate it. nicely photographed. details are wonderful including a thread of the spiderweb, may be


Wonderful to see the seedpods.


This should be Lindenbergia muraria as per details, keys and references herein.

 

 

 


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Lindenbergia muraria from Himachal Pradesh??? validate : Attachments (2). 4 posts by 4 authors.
Lindenbergia muraria (syn: urticifolia) from Mandi Himachal Pradesh photographed on October 21, 2009????. Kindly validate or provide identity.

Yes This is L urticifolia


posted my views of L. murraria at
Your plant looks quite similar and could be it … please compare leaf base … seeing some small difference.


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Lindenbergia muraria (Roxb, ex D. Don) Bruhl, photographed from Mandi, Himachal Pradesh

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Scrophulariaceae Fortnight: Lindenbergia sp?? at Korigad -PKA27: :  Attachments (8). 4 posts by 3 authors.
Seen this small herb on the fort wall and temple wall at Korigad fort (Lonavala region).
Looks like some Lindenbergia spp??

Likely to be Lindenbergia muraria as per the description of growing on old walls.


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Seen this small herb at Yeoor (Thane). Lindengergia sp…??
Date/Time: 14-10-2012 / 12:10PM

 


The hairiness of the whole plant is nicely captured


Looks like Lindenbergia muraria


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[EfloraIndia_221212PD01_Lindenbergia muraria_Flora of Odisha: please find the images of Lindenbergia muraria from Deogarh, Odisha

 

Name of the species: Lindenbergia muraria
Family: Scrophulariaceae
Place of collection: Pradhanpat water fall, Deogarh, Odisha
Habit: Herb
Habitat: Wild, Under the canopy of Moist deciduous to Sem-ievergreen forests

Altitude: 300 m above msl.


 

Scientific and detailed imaging .. this is a nice example to other members

 


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AKNOV02 Lindenbergia sp. for ID : 7 posts by 5 authors.

 

Location: Dehradun, by a stream side

Nov 2014


 

This seems to be Lindenbergia sp. 


 

Lindenbergia species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available)


 

This is same species as of Nidhan Sir or …, accepted as Lindenbergia indica in our (eFI) database.


Check Flora of Maharashtra by M. R. Almeida… there are only 2 species reported. one is L. muraria the other i am not recollecting. i fell it is the other one.


Sorry….Somehow I didn’t see the title of the mail….. I am attaching pics of 2 species of Lindenbergia that I have seen….

Your species seems similar to L. muraria unlike it doesn’t have red spots on the lower petals... Let us take more opinions…..
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efi page on Lindenbergia indica &  Lindenbergia ruderalis  (syn: Lindenbergia urticaefolia Lehm., Stemodia muraria Roxburgh ex D. Don; Stemodia ruderalis Ritz. ; Lindenbergia muraria (Roxburgh ex D. Don) Bruhl)


 

…, I have received acknowledgement mail from … much earlier, but we need to sort out current accepted names of two FBI species = 1) L.. polyantha Royle 2) L. urticaefolia Lehm.
I remember we had a long discussion regarding this in my post.
I reiterate this is same as Nidhan Sir’s post. But I have doubt if the accepted name would be Lindenbergia indica (L.) Kuntze (or Vatke). I think the accepted name would be L. muraria (Roxb. ex D. Don) P. Bruehl.
At the same time I think what … shared as “Lindenbergia indica-1.jpg” in this thread is same species as in my another upload – https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/INM9PDos1gI/NX_FkoaJ_ZEJ. Please note the narrow upper lip of the flowers. I don’t think it is (either of … or of mine) Lindenbergia indica. Because, L. indica (L.) Vatke is synonymous with L. polyantha Royle ex Benth. as per a document from Bangladesh – http://www.banglajol.info/index.php/BJPT/article/view/585. We do not have L. polyantha Royle in this area of West Bengal. Please note L. polyantha Royle has sessile or sub-sessile leaves. as per Prain and Haines.

Attached here relevant entries and KEY in Prain, Haines, Voigt, Flora Indica and Scrophularineae Indicae.
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Thank you very much … for the ID and the informative links.


Thanks, …,
In view of the errors ponited out by you, I have updated eFI (efloraofindia) page on Lindenbergia (Pl. click).
I shall be updating the subpages only after receiving the acceptability of the species (in Bold) & their synonyms on this page.

So pl. confirm for changes, if any.


Thanks, … Are the accepted names (In bold) & their synonyms OK at this page: Lindenbergia ?


I miss Lindenbergia muraria (Roxburgh ex D. Don) Bruhl in subpages. I think we should keep it and place the threads of Nidhan Sir or Arun Ji or others (where flowers have distinct rounded-emarginate upper lips) under it (i.e. L. muraria). Because I think those agree with FoC or Pennell.
I do not know what would be accepted name of my (or some other also) species, where the flowers have narrow upper lip. It may be regional variation/ssp of L. muraria.
Or it may simply be L. ruderalis, a distinct species from L. muraria or L. indica.

But, it can never be L. indica (L.) Vatke if Bangladesh document is correct.


Maybe this “narrow upper lip” and “rounded-emarginate upper lip” variation fall under ‘type’ and ‘β. major’ in “Scrophularineae Indicae”. In that case we can safely place both under L. muraria.


Thanks, … A very valuable help.
I shall be remaking up the subpages (will also be adding L. muraria) after the Genera pages is acceptable to you & others.

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lindenbergia muraria, on the road to kasauli : Attachments (4). 1 post by 1 author.

Lindenbergia muraria,

on the road to Kasauli
sunday morning (9.12.13)

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These pics were recorded from Manali, Gori valley and Morni Hills.. please validate if all of them belong to Lindenbergia indica ??


For validation pl.
It is interesting to go through & decode what Pennel says here:
Scrophulariaceae of the Western Himalayas By Francis . Pennell (1943- Description & Keys- Lindenbergia grandiflora, macrostachya & ruderalis. Also mentions L.indica)


It is Lindenbergia indica


 

This should be Lindenbergia muraria as per details, keys and references herein.

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Kailas Manasarovar Route::Wild flower for ID NSJ-SEP 16/17 : 5 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (2)

Wild flower for ID. Located near Didihat, Uttarakhand. Height Approx 4000 feet.


This is Lindenbergia sp.


Lindenbergia species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available on net)


I think this is Lindenbergia indica, a plant commonly growing on stone walls in Dharamshala.


 

This should be Lindenbergia muraria as per details, keys and references herein.
 

 


 

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Kalatope id al200911a : Attachments (2). 7 posts by 4 authors.
Is this belonging to Mazus sp.

Location Kalatope, Chamba
Altitude 2100 mts

Habit herb
Habitat wild
Height 5 inches


I hope Lindenbergia indica


Lindenbergia indica a very common weed in Bengal. grows all along the walls of houses.


Pl. give your views.


It is also Lendenbergia indica.


Then why Pennel saying:

“Possibly with our territory is also Lendenbergia indica ……………………………………….” in in Scrophulariaceae of the Western Himalayas By Francis . Pennell (1943- Description & Keys- Lindenbergia grandiflora, macrostachya & ruderalis. Also mentions L.indica)


This should be Lindenbergia muraria as per details, keys and references herein.

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Flora of Chakrata: Lindenbergia indica from Dakpathar : Attachments (4). 6 posts by 3 authors.
Lindenbergia indica from Dakpathar

Pls Validate


Yes, Lindenbergia indica.


It may not be Lindenbergia indica as it is not mentioned in Scrophulariaceae of the Western Himalayas By Francis . Pennell (1943- Description & Keys- Lindenbergia grandiflora, macrostachya & ruderalis. Also mentions L.indica)


It is Lindenbergia indica surely.


Then why Pennel saying:

“Possibly with our territory is also Lendenbergia indica ……………………………………….” in in Scrophulariaceae of the Western Himalayas By Francis . Pennell (1943- Description & Keys- Lindenbergia grandiflora, macrostachya & ruderalis. Also mentions L.indica)


This should be Lindenbergia muraria as per details, keys and references herein.


 

 

 

 

 

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LINDENBERGIA INDICA (L.) Kuntze from Barapani, Shillong:  Attached images are Lindenbergia indica (L.) Kuntze. collected from Barapani, Shillong.

Date :19/10/2012
Location: Barapani, Shillong
Family : Scrophulariaceae
Genus & species : Lindenbergia indica (L.) Kuntze.
Habitat: Grows on stone wall (Mural plant)
Habit : Herb

Flower : Yellow in colour


This should be Lindenbergia muraria as per details, keys and references herein.

 

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Lindenbergia indica (L.) Vatke, ; Oesterr. B. Zeits. 25: 10 (1875).
syn: Lindenbergia urticifolia Lehm.

Photographed from Nainital


 

The following sources mentions Lindenbergia indica (L.) Vatke or Lindenbergia indica (L.) Kuntze, Revis. Gen. Pl. 2: 462 1891. (Syn: Dodartia indica L.; Lindenbergia polyantha Royle ex Benth.);

 

Lindenbergia urticifolia Lehm. is mentioned as syn. of Lindenbergia ruderalis (Retz.) Voigt, H. Suburb. Calc. 501 (1845). (syn: Lindenbergia urticaefolia Lehm., Stemodia muraria Roxburgh ex D. Don; Stemodia ruderalis Ritz.) as per Scrophulariaceae of the Western Himalayas By Francis . Pennell (2007) & syn. Lindenbergia muraria (Roxburgh ex D. Don) Bruhl as per Flora of China

Pl. clarify if you think otherwise.


This should be Lindenbergia muraria as per details, keys and references herein.

 


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Saw this along the Govindghat – Ghangaria trail, Uttarakhand in Aug 2018. Is this some Lindenbergia?
Requested to kindly provide ID.

To me also appear close to images at Lindenbergia indica (L.) Vatke as per comparative images at Lindenbergia


Thanks … Any visual indications to distinguish L. muraria and L. indica?

This should be Lindenbergia indica
According to Hjertson M.L. Botanical Journal of the Linnaean Society (1995). 179: 265-321.
Distribution of both species is almost same in India.
Lindenbergia muraria: Leaf blade 0.4-6.2 cm long, petioles 0.1-4.3 cm long, flowers 0.6-1.1 cm long.
Linderbergia indica:  Leaf blade 0.1-6.0 cm long, petioles 0.1-2.5cm long, flowers 0.8-1.8cm long.
Major difference is; in L. muraria ovary and capsule are pilose whereas in L. indica both are glabrous.
Whereas, in Flora of Maharashtra Vol 2: L. muraria leaves are more than 1.5 cm long, petioles 0.6-2.5 cm long and flowers about 0.8 cm long; L. indica leaves about 1.5 cm, petioles less than 0.5 cm and flowers about 2.5 cm long.
Based on images petioles are smaller and flowers are much longer to L. muraria.


Thank you … for detailing the differences and also validating the ID.


This should be Lindenbergia muraria as per details, keys and references herein.

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Lindenbergia indica (L.) Vatke : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (7)- around 700 kb each.

 

Location:  Gyaneswor, Kathmandu, Nepal
Elevation :  4500 ft.
Date 11 November 2018

Habit : Wild

Most common weed but tempted to post!


 

This should be Lindenbergia muraria as per details, keys and references herein.

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HP, Oct 2014 :: Requesting ID :: ARKJAN-13/13 : 8 posts by 5 authors. Attachments (4)
Requesting to please provide ID of this small shrub with tiny flowers found at various places in, HP in October 2014.

Any Lindenbergia?


Lindenbergia species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available) 


 

Linderbergia indica


The plant resembles to Lindenbergia indica


Lindenbergia muraria syn. Stemodia muraria


efi pages on Lindenbergia indica & Lindenbergia muraria


I think this is Lindenbergia urticaefolia Lehm., FBI.iv.262.


Thank you … for the ID. Is there any easy way to distinguish between L. indica and L. muraria?

This should be Lindenbergia muraria as per details, keys and references herein.


 

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This is another set of photographs of Lindenbergia sp . from Yeoor (Thane).
Date/Time: 14-10-2012 / 12:30PM

Lindenbergia species in efi with keys


This should be Lindenbergia muraria as per details, keys and references herein.


 


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MS July, 2020/02 Lindenbergia sp. for ID : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (1)- 2 mb.

Location : Cherhlun, Mizoram

Date : 12-01-2016
Habit : Herb

Habitat : Wild


Lindenbergia muraria (Roxb. ex D. Don) Brüh ??


Thanks, … Yes, you are correct as per Lindenbergia muraria


 

 

 

References:
SCROPHULARIACEOUS TAXA IN BANGLADESH (2012) Lindenbergia muraria (Roxb. ex D. Don) P. Bruehl (Syn: Stemodia muraria Roxb. ex D. Don; Lindenbergia urticaefolia Lehm. in Link & Otto)
Flora of China (Lindenbergia muraria (Roxburgh ex D. Don) Bruhl syn. Stemodia muraria Roxburgh ex D. Don)
Flowers of India (Lindenbergia muraria with Stemodia muraria & Lindenbergia urticifolia as synonyms) 
The Plant List 1  (Lindenbergia muraria (Roxburgh ex D. Don) Brühl syn. Stemodia muraria Roxburgh ex D. Don)
 
Not considered:
The Plant List 2 (Lindenbergia ruderalis Voigt– Unresolved)  The Plant List 3 (Lindenbergia urticifolia Lehm.- unresolved) 
Annotated checklist of Flowering plants of Nepal (Lindenbergia ruderalis (Retz.) Voigt as a syn. of Lindenbergia
indica
)
India Biodiversity Portal (as a syn. of Lindenbergia indica (L.) O. Ktze.)    

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