Elaeocarpus variablis Zmarzty, Kew Bull. 56: 429 2001. (Syn: E. glandulosus sensu auctt.; non E. tectorius (Lour.) Poir.; E. oblongus Gaertn. Sensu auctt.) as per Revision of Elaeocarpus (Elaeocarpaceae) Section – Jstor ;
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Elaeocarpus variablis Zmarzty, Kew Bull. 56: 429 2001. (Syn: E. oblongus sensu Wight & Arn., Prodr. Fl. Indi. Orient. 1: 82-83 (1834) desc. only, excl. synonymy; Wight, Icon. Pl. Ind. Orient. 1: pl. 46 (1838) questionalble with respect to threaa fertile locules; E. oblongus sensu Fyson, Flora of the Nilgiris and Pulney [Palni] Hilltops (1915) t. 35; E. tectorius sensu auctt. incl. Ramamoorthy in Saldanha & Nicolson, Fl. Hassan: 131 (1976) excl. syn. E. glandulosus sensu auctt.; Matthew, Illustratios on the Flora of the Palni Hills, South India, pl. 79 (1996); non E. tectorius (Lour.) Poir.) as per Revision of Elaeocarpus (Elaeocarpaceae) Section – Jstor ;
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Common name: South Indian Marble Tree, Jew’s plum • Kannada: bike, bikki, hanaltadi, hanillatade, hennalalade • Malayalam: kattakara, malamkara, malankara • Marathi: kasa • Tamil: malankarai
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Trees, bole buttressed; bark greyish-brown; blaze red; branchlets, young leaves and buds densely pubescent. Leaves simple, alternate; stipules lateral, caudous; petiole 15-35 mm, slender, pubescent when young, swollen at base and tip, 2 minute glands at tip; lamina 5-12 x 2.3-6.5 cm elliptic-ovate, elliptic-obovate, elliptic-oblong or ovate, base cuneate or acute, apex abruptly acuminate with emarginate tip, margin distantly crenate or serrate, glabrous on both sides, coriaceous, punctate, domatia glandular, lateral nerves 4-8 pairs, pinnate, slender, prominent, intercostae reticulate, slender, faint. Flowers bisexual, white, in axillary and terminal racemes; peduncle puberulus when young; pedicel 3 mm long; sepals 5, 4-5 mm, ovate-lanceolate, puberulous outside, glandular inside; petals 5, white, 6-8 mm, laciniate, glandular, inserted round the base of glandular disc; stamens many, inserted between the glands on the disk; anthers tipped with hairs; ovary superior, subglobose, placed on a raised torus, densely hairy outside, 3-celled, ovules 2 in each cell; style subulate, entire. Fruit a drupe, 2.5 × 2.5 cm, oblong, stone one.

Flowering and fruiting: May-October
Moist deciduous and evergreen forests
Western Ghats
(From India Biodiversity Portal (Elaeocarpus variabilis syn. Elaeocarpus glandulosus, Elaeocarpus oblongus)

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Elaeocarpus glandulosus Wall. ex Merr. ::: Elaeocarpaceae : Attachments (7). 3 posts by 2 authors.
Name: Elaeocarpus glandulosus Wall. ex Merr

Syn.: Elaeocarpus variablis Zmarzty
Family: Elaeocarpaceae
Date: 14 July 2013
Place: Kothagiri, Nilgiris, TN
Alt.: 2000 m asl
Grown along roadside

Thanks, …, Correct name may be as per Revision of Elaeocarpus (Elaeocarpaceae) Section – Jstor (Elaeocarpus variabilis Zmarzty is the well-known E. glandulosus sensu auctt. (syn. E. oblongus sensu auctt.) redescribed.)


Thanks for the information …, I stand corrected with the correct name.



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Elaeocarpus oblongus Gaertn SN June40 : 4 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (4).
Elaeocarpus oblongus Gaertn, wild tree from Kothagiri area of Nilgiris, Tamilnadu,
fruits edible and being sold in the market in Coonor (Bikki fruit)

Thanks, …, Can it be Elaeocarpus variabilis Zmarzty is the well-known E. glandulosus sensu auctt. (syn. E. oblongus sensu auctt.) redescribed as per details at Elaeocarpus ?


Pl. see the following:
Revision of Elaeocarpus (Elaeocarpaceae) Section – Jstor : Sue Zmarzty Kew Bulletin Vol. 56, No. 2 (2001), pp. 405-447.
Abstract: Elaeocarpus section Elaeocarpus in southern India and Sri Lanka is revised. Nine species are recognised, including three new species (E. hedyosmus Zmarzty, E. variabilis Zmarzty and E. taprobanicus Zmarzty) and one new variety (E. serratus L. var. weibelii Zmarzty). Elaeocarpus hedyosmus Zmarzty sp. nov. is the well-known E. amoenus sensu auctt. redescribed. The original syntypes of E. amoenus Thwaites included three different species, and Meijer’s (1995) lectotypification means that this name must be restricted to a distinct, less well-known species. Elaeocarpus variabilis Zmarzty is the well-known E. glandulosus sensu auctt. (syn. E. oblongus sensu auctt.) redescribed. The name E. glandulosus Wall. ex Merr. must be applied to a northern species, probably E. hygrophilus Kurz, after Merrill’s (1951) validation of the name E. glandulosus Wall. Elaeocarpus subvillosus Arn. is lectotypified. It is common for collections from the Wallich Herbarium to be erroneously cited in descriptions of southern Indian Elaeocarpus. The author’s determinations of this material are included as Appendix 1. Appendix 2 lists other exsiccatae. An index to accepted names and synonymy is given as Appendix 3.  

Thank you … for your updated informations.



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Need ids for these two trees : 8 posts by 4 authors. 2 images.
I have two trees for id:
1) Found around Lingmala forest near Panchgani. Photo clicked in month of March. A specimen of this is also observed in Pune University garden. Flowering now but flowers too high up to get any clear shot with ordinary camera.
2) Found in Pune university – young tree, not very tall, near NET/SET dept. – Photo clicked in in March

Is it Crateva sp.? ( second one)


2. Elaeocarpus sp.???


Still looking for definite ids of both image one and two.


Pl. attach original large size image so that details can be seen.


Elaeocarpus glandulosus and Trichilia connaroides



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It is my pleasure to share few images of Elaeocarpus variablis (Elaeocarpaceae 

Habit: Tree 

Habitat: Wild, Evergreen forest 

Sighting: Bisle, Hassan, Karnataka about 1200 msl 

Date: 22-01-2016


Excellent display …!!



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Coorg Forest tree — pls. id AS_28052012: Pls id this Coorg forest tree flowering in February.


Some Elaeocarpus species. Rudraksha tree.


Its look like Elaeocarpus serratus L.f, i have seen this tree very common around Lingmala forest , Panchgani, its local name is Kashav, fruits edible.


For me Its look like E. serratus?


There seems to be lot of confusion in the nomenclature of WG’s Elaeocarpus.

I think this is Elaeocarpus oblongus (=E. variabilis, = E.glandulosus, = E.tectorius). Plant list for some reasons treats E.oblongus and E.variabilis as distinct taxa.
E. serratus is very similar but slightly distinct in floral characters. Both these species occur in Coorg, however only the prior is found in Mahabaleshwar.


I agree with … Please see the link to access an earlier discussion in this group.


I am taking it as Elaeocarpus oblongus auct. non. Gaertn. 1788 as per referred book links given below & modifying efi site page accordingly to efi site link from Elaeocarpus oblongus Gaertn. earlier:
Book link 2
Book link 3
The Plant list & GRIN only mentions Elaeocarpus oblongus Gaertn. I think we (those who do not have botanical books like me) have to refer to such book links in future to get correct species with proper author citation.

Could someone please enlighten me on how to distinguish this as E.oblongus ?
The leaves and mature red leaves seem to be common to all species.
The bark is grey, mottled with black patches ( peeling bark??), while serraatus and sphericus are reported to have brownish barks.
Some history of this Tree:
This tree stands outside the Nalknad palace/Hunting lodge, the last refuge of the last Kodava (Coorgi) king who ousted Tipu from Coorg, but was finally vanquished by the British. It was then the thickest forest , and this tree was perhaps a sapling.

 


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Names of Plants in India :: Elaeocarpus oblongus Gaertn.: via Species‎ > ‎E‎ > ‎  Elaeocarpus oblongus Gaertn. … (family: Elaeocarpaceae)

Flowers of India Discussions at efloraofindia more views in flickr more views on Google Earth
el-lee-oh-KAR-pus — from the Greek elaia (olive) and karpos (fruit), referring to the olive-shaped fruit … Dave’s Botanary
ob-LONG-us — oblongDave’s Botanary
commonly known as: oblong wild oliveMarathi: कास kasa, कासव kasav
botanical names: Elaeocarpus oblongus Gaertn. … synonym: Elaeocarpus angustifolius Wight … The Plants List
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Photographed at Mahabaleshwar, Maharashtra ... 28 MAY 11
… more views on flickr.

I am taking it as Elaeocarpus oblongus auct. non. Gaertn. 1788 as per referred book links given below & modifying efi site page accordingly to efi site link from Elaeocarpus oblongus Gaertn. earlier:
Book link 2
Book link 3
The Plant list & GRIN only mentions Elaeocarpus oblongus Gaertn. I think we (those who do not have botanical books like me) have to refer to such book links in future to get correct species with proper author citation.

Many thanks … for this pointer.
… comment in a earlier post at efi thread

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Elaeocarpus oblongus (=E. variabilis, = E.glandulosus, = E.tectorius)
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Will wait to know which among these is treated as synonym of other:
Elaeocarpus oblongus auct. non. Gaertn. AND Elaeocarpus tectorius (Lour.) Poir.
My thinking: Elaeocarpus tectorius (Lour.) Poir. (= Elaeocarpus oblongus auct. non. Gaertn.)


Elaeocarpus variablis Zmarzty, Kew Bull. 56: 429 2001. (Syn: E. glandulosus sensu auctt.; non E. tectorius (Lour.) Poir.; E. oblongus Gaertn. Sensu auctt.) as per Elaeocarpus variablis Zmarzty 


Thanks …; will wait for some time for any comment(s) before I revise my notes at flickr.



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Charmadi Ghat Karnataka
Date: 12 NOV 2016 … Altitude: explored between: 873 – 976 m (2863 – 3201 ft) asl
Elaeocarpus variabilis Zmarzty  (family: Elaeocarpaceae) 

Wonderful images, …



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Validation is requested : 5 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1)
I am attaching an image of Euonymus plant branch, based on the fruit and leaf it is identified, please validate my Id. It is Photographed at E.Godavari dist of A.P. Characteristic red foliage indicates its genus. Please help me


Which are the species found in your area ? You can species with comparative images available at Euonymus, if it of any help.


doesn’t match with any of the species


Seems to Elaeocarpus tectorius ma’am,


yes, it is also included in our book


You mean it is Elaeocarpus tectorius ?


Yes …


Nomenclature of Elaeocarpus tectorius (Lour.) Poir. appears to be quite confusing. 

CoL lists it as a syn. of Elaeocarpus robustus Roxb.
POWO lists it as an accepted species. 
However, this genus has been revised in S.India as per Revision of Elaeocarpus (Elaeocarpaceae) Section in South India & Sri Lanka – Jstor : Sue Zmarzty Kew Bulletin Vol. 56, No. 2 (2001), pp. 405-447. As per this, it should be Elaeocarpus variablis Zmarzty, Kew Bull. 56: 429 2001. (Syn: E. oblongus sensu Wight & Arn., Prodr. Fl. Indi. Orient. 1: 82-83 (1834) desc. only, excl. synonymy; Wight, Icon. Pl. Ind. Orient. 1: pl. 46 (1838) questionalble with respect to threaa fertile locules; E. oblongus sensu Fyson, Flora of the Nilgiris and Pulney [Palni] Hilltops (1915) t. 35; E. tectorius sensu auctt. incl. Ramamoorthy in Saldanha & Nicolson, Fl. Hassan: 131 (1976) excl. synon. E. glandulosus sensu auctt.; Matthew, Illustration on the Flora of the Palni Hills, South India, pl. 79 (1996); non E. tectorius (Lour.) Poir.) (Maharastra, Karnatak, Kerala & Tamilnadu)
For more details see Elaeocarpus

 


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References:

Revision of Elaeocarpus (Elaeocarpaceae) Section – Jstor (Elaeocarpus variabilis Zmarzty is the well-known E. glandulosus sensu auctt. (syn. E. oblongus sensu auctt.) redescribed.)

Biotik ( (Elaeocarpus variabilis Zmarzty) 

The Plant List (Elaeocarpus variabilis Zmarzty)  Flowers of India

India Biodiversity Portal (Elaeocarpus variabilis syn. Elaeocarpus glandulosus, Elaeocarpus oblongus)

Encyclopaedia of World Medicinal Plants, Volume 1  By T. Pullaiah (2006- Elaeocarpus oblongus Mast. syn. Elaeocarpus glandulosus Wall.)

Trees of Andhra Pradesh, India By T. Pullaiah, S. Sandhya Rani (Elaeocarpus tectorius (Lour.) Poir. syn. Elaeocarpus oblongus auct. non. Gaertn., Craspedum tectorium Lour.; Elaeocarpus robustus Roxb.) (Description & Keys- Elaeocarpus lucidus, Elaeocarpus lanceifolius & Elaeocarpus tectorius
Flora of Eastern Ghats: Hill Ranges of South East India, Volume 1 By T. Pullaiah, D. Muralidhara Rao, K. Sri Ramamurthy (Elaeocarpus tectorius (Lour.) Poir. syn. Elaeocarpus oblongus auct. non. Gaertn., Craspedum tectorium Lour.; Elaeocarpus robustus Roxb.) (Description & Keys- Elaeocarpus lucidus, Elaeocarpus lanceifolius & Elaeocarpus tectorius