Zingiber nimmonii (J.Graham) Dalzell, Hooker’s J. Bot. Kew Gard. Misc. 4: 341 1852. (Syn: Alpinia nimmonii J.Graham; Zingiber cernuum Dalzell) as per efi thread;
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S. India, Myanmar as per POWO;
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Rhizome small, purplish-lilac inside, strongly aromatic; roots fleshy, bearing fleshy root tubers. Leafy shoot 50-90 cm tall, erect. Leaves subsessile, 15-23 x 5-9 cm, oblong-lanceolate, base oblique, apex acuminate, upper surface sparsely pubescent, lower densely pubescent; ligule c. 5 mm long, bifid, coriaceous. Inflorescence produced directly from the rhizome; peduncle short or absent; spike ovate or subglobose, enclosed within obovate reddish sheaths. Flowers 4.5-5 cm long, one in each bract; bracts 3-4 x 0.8-1.2 cm, lanceolate, apex acuminate, reddish-green; bracteoles c. 2.5 x 1 cm, lanceolate. Calyx tubular, 1-1.2 cm long, unilaterally split, membranous, white. Corolla tube 2.5-3 cm long, slender, white; lobes 3, subequal, yellowish-orange. Labellum c. 2.5 x 1.2 cm, 3-lobed, light yellow with pink spot; mid-lobe ovate, bifid at apex. Anther sessile, yellow. Stigma slightly projecting from the anther-crest. Epigynous glands c. 5 mm long, yellow. Capsules c. 4 x 2 cm, trigonous, whitish when young, turning to deep red at maturity. Seeds 6-7 x 3-4 mm, dark brown; aril white.
Flowering and fruiting: July-October
Moist deciduous forests, also in the plains
Western Ghats
(From India Biodiversity Portal
Attributions- Dr. N Sasidharan (Dr. B P Pal Fellow), Kerala Forest Research Institute, Peechi)
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Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Fortnight: Zingiberaceae: Zingiber nimmonii : 3 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (1).
Please find the photo of Z. nimmonii

Excellent capture of a beautiful plant..!!



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I am attaching here two photographs of the plant in question. This plant is a planted one in Areca nut (Betel nut) Garden. This is in a village called Tattikai situated in the high rainfall area of Western Ghats.
Kindly help me identifying this plant and I request you for some details on the plant.
I thank you in advance.

Could be some species of Zingiber.
In wilderness of Western Ghats we see Z. cernuum with a similar sight, though to me, the leaves seem slightly different in the posted plant


It is Zingiber nimmonii Dalz. a common ginger of Western Ghats.


 


Identification : 1 image.
Date/Time-  18 th Nov 2020- 10 an
Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- Khandala, Maharashtra-550 m
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-garden
Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-
Height/Length- 4/5 “ about a foot in diameter all together 


Zingiber sp.


Remembering Zinziber roseum to me


My guess is Zingiber nimmonii (J.Graham) Dalzell !


May be Zingiber nimmonii?



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zing-ee-ber — from a Sanskrit word meaning shaped like a horn
SER-new-um or SERN-yoo-um — nodding

commonly known as: curved-stem ginger <https://sites.google.com/site/…>
, nodding-stem ginger <https://sites.google.com/site/…>
• *Gujarati*: જંગલી આદું jungali aadu <https://sites.google.com/site/…>
• *Marathi*: रान आले raan-ale <https://sites.google.com/site/…>

botanical name: Zingiber cernuum Dalz. … synonyms: no synonyms … The Plants List <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-273237>
Dear friends,
This plant is distributed in Karnataka, however could not gather any name in Kannada … help required from Kannada-knowing friends. Else tempted to put a generic name ಕಾಡು ಶುಂಟಿ kaadu shunti (literal meaning: wild ginger).


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Herb for ID : 21112012 : RV 1:
Please help me to identify this herb……saw today at SGNP, Mumbai.


 … most probably Zingiber cernuum (family Zingiberaceae)


Thanks … and … for the help.



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Monsoon jewel – Curved-Stem Ginger – Zingiber cernuum:

Monsoon jewel – Curved-Stem Ginger, Zingiber cernuum
Family: Zingiberaceae 
Herb-height-35cms, flowers at base, curved/broken, stem, leaf-40cms approx, alternate
Bhagamandala, Coorg, Western ghats
Habitat: forest – evergreen
Monsoon, 27 Jul 2011

This really an interesting plant!! I was fascinated to see the inflorescence at the base of the plant.



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Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Fortnight: August 1 to 14, 2014 : Zingiberaceae : Zingiber cernuum : SGNP,Mumbai : 140814 : AK-20 : 6 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (3).
Sharing pictures of Zingiber cernuum from Sanjay Gandhi National Park, Mumbai.
Pictures taken on 9th Dec,2012.



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Attached are pictures of Zingiber cernuum captured at SGNP, Bamboo Trail in December 2012.
Requested to please validate the ID.

Seems to be Z. nimmonii (Z. cernuum)


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128 ID wild plant Zingiberaceae: 18 images.
Please ID wild plant,
Location: near Reserve Forest, Chathamattom, Ernakulam District, (Kochi) Kerala PIN:686671
Altitude: 1400fsl
Flower date: 02.08.2021, 03.15pm
Habitat: wild moisture
Plant habit: erect/slightly obliquely, fleshy weak stem 12mm diameter, rhizome, mild aromatic, annual
Height: 05 feet
Leaves: alternate, mild aromatic, ovate, oblong, apex, size:18×7 inch
Flower: size:17×13×9mm, whitish purple shaded, mild fragrance
Fruit:
Seed:
Camera: mobile Samsung Galaxy A21s


Zingiber nimmonii (Z. cernum)


I am not finding any reference or publication on the net giving the Zingiber cernum as a syn. of Zingiber nimmonii.
May I request you to pl. clarify in the matter or give the reference pl.


3 high res. attachments.


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Zingiber cernuum in FOI: 3 images.
Zingiber cernuum in FOI (images attached) should be a syn. of Zingiber nimmonii (J.Graham) Dalzell as per efi thread though POWO says both to be different.
Pl. check.


Everywhere is the same image for Z. cernum which looks wrong. This should be the correct image for the Z. cernuum ??
https://uk.inaturalist.org/taxa/139935-Zingiber-cernuum


Thanks very much, …, for surfacing this Zingiber cernuum VS nimmonii.
Considering they are different species, we need to see sufficient observations from the field experts; so that we can easily differentiate them.
I think they are not easily differentiated visually when we see the plant in the fruiting phase OR with dehisced fruits.
Shrikant ji Ingalhalikar’s  Further Flowers of Sahyadri, the second among the three field guides to identify plants of northern Western Ghats of India, based on flowers, have photos of both plants:
Zingiber cernuum: page 380
Zingiber nimmonii: page 397
My observation of the Zingiber cernuum illustrated at FOI, agrees well with the illustration in Shrikant ji’s FFOS.
My same observation is also illustrated at POWO … https://powo.science.kew.org/names:798324-1/images
But, all this could be wrong, and corrections will need to be done at all places.
…, Clicking on the link you provided takes us to a page showing a flower photographed by one of our friends Sushant More.
On that same page, clicking on “View more” leads us to a page showing two more photos of flowers, looking different.
Sushant’s observation is at https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/59761452 … though he must be correct with his ID, the observation still awaits validation.
Both observations – Sushant’s and mine – need to be validated by experts.
Sushant had discussed Zingiber nimmonii with me; he said most of the plants of nimmonii in Western Ghats are wrongly identified as cernuum.
I have requested him to write an article or paper about this myth, based on which I can shift IDs of my observations to nimmonii.

Thanks … for bringing this up. Is there a published paper where Zingiber cernuum is treated as a synonym of Zingiber nimmonii? If there isn’t, I will wait for such revision of the species by the botanical community. Till then I will continue to follow POWO.


Sabu ji has provided book references at
https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/U5SWxAT1Rqc


Yes, I agree with you. There are not many images of the Z. cernuum on the net. We need look for keys and description to short this out.
… other images on cernuum is different.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/66499264@N05/9664123786
6 screenshots


… images posted by me on flicker are very old i haven’t updated the captions yet and those are Z . nimmonii only. i will update it soon.


Sabu ji is the expert in this area and we should follow him.


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Zingiber :: cernuum VS nimmonii: 9 attachments.

I want to discuss about two species of Zingiber, namely: cernuum and nimmonii. They are treated as separate identities by some and synonymous by few. I see them as separate taxons, and I am using the Hooker’s Journal of Botany and Kew Garden Miscellany as reference, to put forth my thoughts.
Some taxonomical portals consider these two taxa as separate:
• Plants of the World Online (POWO), retrieved 11 May 2024
• Global Biodiversity Information Facility (GBIF) [11 May 2024]

Description of Z. Nimmonii, Dalz. extracted from Hooker’s Journal

Above Latin text translated to English ↓

1. Z. Nimmonii, Dalz.; the stem reddish-green, glabrous, with lanceolate leaves, acuminate at the base with a very short slender petiole, bright green above, pale and cobwebby below, the ovate ascending spike, the top scarcely exserted from the ground, with inner reddish-striated bracts, linear-oblong to lanceolate, acute, glabrous, bifid, the outer corolla with yellowish-red fringe, the 3-lobed yellow lip, with the intermediate lobe ovate-rounded, scarcely emarginate; the capsules, the size of a dove’s egg.
Growing in Konkan, and also in the yoke of Sahyadris; flowering July.
Dalzell continues ↓
Although it is a maxim among naturalists that differences of colour without difference of form cannot make a species, I find in making out the differential characters of this genus great help in recording colour as well as form, owing to the very great uniformity among the species, both as regards habit and structure, even of their minutest parts. The present species is by far the commonest of the three here described, and it is the only one of which I am at all in doubt as to its being an undescribed species, as it agrees well with the description of Z. panduratum of Roxb. Flor. Ind., which however was not found in the Indian peninsula. The species which I have now attempted to characterize is mentioned in Graham’s catalogue of Bombay plants, under the name of Alpinia Nimmonii, but at that time the flowers were unknown, which is not much to be wondered at, as they appear (in common with those of the other species) at a time when the whole country is deluged with heavy and continued rains.
Description of Z. cernuum extracted from Hooker’s Journal
Above Latin text translated to English ↓
2. Z. cernuum; the stem glabrous, bright green, with leaves narrowly elliptic, acuminate, glabrous on both sides, the spikes ovate, obtuse, very shortly pedunculate, the top scarcely exserted from the ground, with inner yellow-green bracts, ovate or oblong, shortly obtuse, glabrous, shortly trifid, the outer corolla with pale brown fringe, the 3-lobed lip, with the intermediate white and pink ovate lobe, deeply bifid, with lateral lobes painted yellow and pink.
Growing in Ram Ghat; flowering July.

Dalzell continues ↓
This is the smallest of the three species here described. The apex of the leafy stem is always somewhat curved; beside this mark, it may be readily distinguished by its bright green stems, never having a tint of any other colour. The habit and form are entirely those of the preceding, but the colouring of the lip is the handsomest of any species I have seen. Fruit yellowish-white, smooth; seeds (unripe) red, striated, with membranous aril.
Illustrations of the discussed species

I see the discussed species as separate, based on the illustrations shown above. The photos belong to respective owners, and have their own copyrights. Annotations on the illustrations are purely mine. The plants in the photos agree very well to the descriptions found in the Hooker’s Journal of Botany and Kew Garden Miscellany.
Distribution of the discussed species
• Zingiber cernuum Dalzell
India (Goa, Karnataka, Maharashtra)
• Zingiber nimmonii (Graham) Dalzell
India (Karnataka, Kerala, Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu); Myanmar (Mandalay)
… Hassler, Michael (1994 – 2023): World Plants. Synonymic Checklist and Distribution of the World Flora. Version 19.2; last update April 17th, 2024. – www.worldplants.de. Last accessed 11/05/2024.

Thank you, …, for sorting out these two species which have long been confused in the literature. It’s wonderful to read Dalzell’s original descriptions of the plants.


Thanks, …, for validating my thoughts about these two species.
Many thanks for your help in getting the Latin content translated to English to the best possible. And also for the English language check.
Many thanks to Sushant and Shiwalee for allowing use of their photos.


It will be better to have views of Sabu ji, in this matter.


Yes, sure, … His views will definitely help us.

 


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References:
POWO  efi thread  
The Plant List Ver.1.1  WCSP  e-monocot  India Biodiversity Portal