Neillia thyrsiflora

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Neillia thyrsiflora D.Don, Prodr. Fl. Nepal. 228. 1825 (syn: Adenilema fallax Blume; Neillia adenilema Miq.; Neillia fallax (Blume) Blume; Neillia thyrsiflora var. fallax (Blume) Kalkman; Neillia tunkinensis J.E.Vidal; Neillia virgata Wall.; Opulaster thyrsiflorus (D.Don) Kuntze; Physocarpus thyrsiflorus (D.Don) Kuntze; Spiraea thyrsiflora (D.Don) K.Koch);

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Central Nepal to China (Yunnan, Guangxi), X. Sumatera, W. Jawa: Assam, China South-Central, China Southeast, East Himalaya, Jawa, Myanmar, Nepal, Sumatera, Tibet, Vietnam as per POWO;
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SK15JUN21-2106:ID : 7 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (3)
Enclosing some pictures for ID.
Location : Nagarkot, Nepal
Altitude : 6000 ft
Date: 15 August 2015

This seems to belong to Rosaceae…

some Rubus sp.?

Is this Neillia thrysiflora D. Don ??

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SK675 26 JUL-2017:ID : 14 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (6)

Location: Shivapuri National Park, Nepal
Altitude: 8200 ft.
Date: 22 July 2017
Rubus…! Which one?

Rubus species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available on net)

Please check with Rubus moluccanus

I have recently seen this in Meghalaya, will post soon..

It is Neillia rubiflora. See the specimens and you may compare with its related species N. thyrsiflora.
I guess it is matching to Neillia rubiflora D. Don.
Elevation is not matching to Neillia thrysiflora D. Don.

Checklist is very old and sketchy and most of the genera needs revision. I have experienced that where ever there has been revision, lot of old species has been wiped out.

Thank you …  It is really tough task for lay person like me to decide the correct ID of plants. Someone says, Flora of China is not reliable, someone says the Catalog of Life is not reliable which I have also witnessed in some cases ans someone says the concept of the Accepted name is far from truth.
However, we should be happy that the process is going on.

Yes nothing I’d absolutely correct. Everything is relative.

Yes, nothing would be absolutely correct. We have to go by different sources at different point of time and our collection of resources.

Thank you …  It is Neillia thrysiflora D. Don.

Thanks. Finally you agreed.

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SK1524 21 Oct 2018 : 5 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (6) – around 550 kb each.
Location:  Shivapuri National Park,Nepal 
Date: 25 August 2018
Elevation:7000 ft.
Habit : Wild
Neillia thrysiflora D. Don  ?? or  Neillia thrysiflora D. Don ??

nice valiant effort at photography. it was raining? you lens is getting foggy

Yes …! Rain and fog !

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SK1915 14 May 2019 : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (6)- around 700 kb each. 

Location: Phulchoki, Lalitpur, Nepal
Altitude: 2446 m.
Date: 8 May 2019
Habit : Wild
Neillia rubiflora D.Don or Neillia thrysiflora D. Don ??
Inflorescence is still young.
On closer examination, it appears to become a panicle rather than a raceme. In view of keys in Flora of China, I will like to go for Neillia thyrsiflora
Pl. keep a watch, if possible.

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SK414 11MAR-2017:ID : 4 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2)

Location: Gurje Bhanjyang, Nepal
Altitude:  5800 ft.
Date: 26 January 2016

Looks like fruiting stage of Neillia thrysiflora D. Don !

Yes, species seem to be OK.
But these are flowering buds as per FoC Illustration.

Thank you … Yes looks like flowering buds!

But the flowering period appears to be different from our observations at Neillia thyrsiflora and as per Flora of China.
What is the difference between the two species found in Nepal ?
According to  Neillia, there  is no description of keys for N. thrysiflora but elevation matches. And we had discussions in the past regarding possibilities of some variations on elevations and phenology due to global warming. Also, enclosing some keys from the book Flora of Kathmandu Valley for N. thrysiflora !
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Neillia thyrsiflora D.Don: 8 very high resolution images.

Location: Chandragiri
Date: November 2020
Altitude: 1662m.
Habitat : Wild 

Nepali Names : हात्ती लहरो  Haattee Laharo / भोगला  Bhogalaa

 

 

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References:
POWO  Catalogue of Life  The Plant List Ver.1.1 IPNI  BSI Flora of India  Flora of China  FOC illustration  IIIM (Specimen) India Biodiversity Portal  FRLHT (specimen)  Forest Plants of Eastern India By Amal Bhusan Chaudhuri (1993- details)