Crinum × amabile

Crinum × amabile Donn ex Ker Gawl., Bot. Mag. 39: t. 1605 1814. (syn: Crinum × amabile var. augustum (Roxb.) Ker Gawl.; Crinum × augustum Roxb.; Crinum × superbum Roxb.);
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India as per WCSP;
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Common name: Giant Spider Lily, {Nagadamani, Sudarshan} (Hindi), Modo lei (Manipuri), விஷமூங்கில் Visamungil (Tamil), Pulattali (Malayalam)
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As per efi thread:

01. Quoting from Baker’s Handbook of the Amaryllideae (1988):
Perianth white; tube erect, tinged with green, 3-4 in. long; segments linear, 2-3 in. long. Stamens tinged with red, 2 in. long: Crinum asiaticum
Perianth-tube erect, cylindrical, bright red (other literature have quoted as purple also), 3-4 in. long; segments 4-5 in. long, red on the outside: Crinum amabile
02. Quoting from Afroz et al. (2018). TAXONOMIC REVISION OF THE GENUS CRINUM L. (LILIACEAE) OF BANGLADESH. Bangladesh J. of Pl Taxonomy 25 (2): 257-271.
Scape purplish, shorter than the leaves: Crinum amabile
Scape green, longer than the leaves: Crinum asiaticum
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Crinum Lily for ID : Friends of the Trees Exhibition, Mumbai : 05JUN20 : AK-5 : 9 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (4)
Again seen at the Friends of the Trees Exhibition in Feb, 20.
Quite close to the ones I have seen in Lalbagh, Bangalore.
But the leaves were purple.


Crinum procerum –  one of the red varieties.


Would this be Crinum procerum var. splendens?


Yes. It looks closure to it.


Thanks, …, for the id.
Yes, to me also appears closer to Crinum asiaticum var. procerum f. splendens as per

Thanks … Something very odd.
I had rotated the pictures before sending to make them straight.
In my Gmail, they are straight, but showing the original form on Eflora.


Crinum × amabile Donn ex Ker Gawl.


Thanks … Now, I am further confused.
Thought the id you had suggested was close to my pictures.
Now, I wonder what my Lalbagh Lilies are.



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please validate-Crinum augustum.010914RT-1 : 15 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (1).
please validate-AmaryllidaceaeCrinum augustum.
Place-Alapuzha; Kearala.
Habitat-cultivated garaden
Flowers-scented.
Height-4 feet.

efi page on Crinum × amabile

As per The Plant List Ver. 1.1, Crinum × augustum Roxb. is a synonym of Crinum × amabile Donn ex Ker Gawl.


Crinum asiaticum


So many pink-white crinum flowers identified with so many names in the net is very confusing to me. I think –
i) if flowers are pedicellate (1 to 2 inch) it is C. augustum R., and they are sweetly fragrant
ii) if flowers are sessile it is C. zeylanicum (L.) L., don’t know if they are fragrant
May be there are more similar looking other species.

Thanks …The sweet scented flowers are borne on a long pedicel-upto 2 feet long. It is the same thing as in … post on 030812 from Lalbagh.


Your crinum may be same as the one you have mentioned. But perhaps you have meant 2 ft peduncle, not pedicel. Please correct me if I am wrong.


Yes dear …; thanks for correcting me. It is a peduncle bearing the flower cluster.


Since leaves are all basal and inflorescence axis is leafless we would call it a scape and not a peduncle.


Yes Sir, I was wrong.


No … you were not wrong
The plant bears usually more than 50 cm long scape (some may call it peduncle, though technically it is scape) in both species at the tip of which flowers are borne in an umbel subtended by spathaceous bract. Individual flowers may be sessile (no pedicel) or have a distinct pedicel. The ovary being inferior, pedicel if present would be below the ovary.


Yes Sir, I wanted to say pedicels (or not) on the scape, instead wrote pedicels on the peduncle….. must be something to do with those Alocasia-Colocasia!


As … is an experts on Crinum & published a new species-

Kew Bulletin September 2012, Volume 67, Issue 3, pp 521-526 Crinum malabaricum (Amaryllidaceae), a remarkable new aquatic species from Kerala, India and lectotypification of Crinum thaianum by M. M. Lekhak & S. R. Yadav- we should review the identity of this post in light of his views.


Yes, …, this is not for amateurs. Crinum flowers with pink hue can be a member of C. asiaticum complex.
The white flowered large species with distinct stem (though short) is Crinum toxicarium Roxb. Bangladesh reports a purplish variant of C. asiaticum. Add to this the species Crinum x amabile which is hybrid of C. asiaticum. One may also take a look at – http://www.pacificbulbsociety.CrinumSpeciesOne.


At the outset let me tell you that I am not an expert in this group. I am just a beginner. The group is highly polymorphic and species particularly the ones which are in ornamental trade (Crinum asiaticum, C. amabile, C. powellii etc) are very difficult to delimit. The image provided here cannot be Crinum zeylanicum as C. zeylanicum has funnel-shaped perianth not salver-shaped (as in the present case). Let me see some literature on cultivated Crinums. I will get back to you.


Can we take it as Crinum × amabile ?


Yes Sir, let’s wait for .. feedback.


Yes, …


Presently this cultivated taxon of Crinum is valid in the name – Crinum × amabile Donn ex Ker Gawl.
Please check the POWO link – Crinum × amabile Donn ex Ker Gawl. | Plants of the World Online | Kew Science


Yes, I shall go with Crinum x amabile Donn ex Ker-Gawl


Thank you for your mail, it is Crinum asiaticum (=C. ambile)


Images by (Aarti Khale  – identified by Ritesh Kumar Choudhary), (Inserted by Bhagyashri Ranade)

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Lily for ID : Lalbagh,Bangalore : 030812 : AK-1: Pictures taken on 24/7/12 in Lalbagh, Bangalore.
Looks like some species of spider lily.
Buds are red in color. Missed seeing the open flower.

Crinum x amabile Donn is my guess. Amaryllidaceae.

It does look like Crinum x amabile Donn, Giant Spider Lily.


This could be Crinum asiaticum also !!


To me it looks like Crinum x amabile Donn.


Can we take it as Crinum × amabile ?


01. Quoting from Baker’s Handbook of the Amaryllideae (1988):
Perianth white; tube erect, tinged with green, 3-4 in. long; segments linear, 2-3 in. long. Stamens tinged with red, 2 in. long: Crinum asiaticum
Perianth-tube erect, cylindrical, bright red (other literature have quoted as purple also), 3-4 in. long; segments 4-5 in. long, red on the outside: Crinum amabile
02. Quoting from Afroz et al. (2018). TAXONOMIC REVISION OF THE GENUS CRINUM L. (LILIACEAE) OF BANGLADESH. Bangladesh J. of Pl Taxonomy 25 (2): 257-271.
Scape purplish, shorter than the leaves: Crinum amabile
Scape green, longer than the leaves: Crinum asiaticum
I think we should go with Crinum x amabile


Ornamental Lilies for ID : Bangalore : 28OCT20 : AK-48 : 7 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (3)
Cultivated Lilies seen in August.
These are similar to the ones seen in Flower Show in Mumbai.

I think I have posted earlier. I will check and let you know whether the plant is same.


Possibly Crinum species.
Also check
https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a—l/a/amaryllidaceae/crinum/crinum-amabile


Crinum only


Thanks, …, for the id.
Yes, appears to be Crinum × amabile as per images and details herein.



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Crinum latifolium – 19/09/12 – RK2:
Milk & Wine LilyCrinum latifoliumLalbagh, Bangalore – 09/09/12 –
9.15 am . Lovely surprise in Lalbagh.


This is Crinum × amabile Donn ex Ker Gawl., as per images and details herein.



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incredible Crinum from Hooghly:  If you click the following two google search –

According to The Plant List –
Dave’s Garden = http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/90355/#b
This is an ornamental herb, Crinum sp., in a private compound beside a pond, recorded on 5/10/2012 in Hooghly.

Incidentally I have Bailey, Manual of Cultivated plants (a standard reference for cultivated plants) which treats Crinum asiaticum, C. amabile and C. augustum as three distinct species. Former is differentiated by white perianth and latter two by perianth red at least on outside. The author admits C. augustum as “doubtfully specifically distinct from A. amabile” differing in larger bulbs (up to 15 cm in diam.), less fragrant, and broader perianth segments (12-20 mm broad) as against smaller bulb, highly fragrant flowers and 10-12 mm broad segments. C. asiaticum is considered as a very variable species with bulb 10-13 cm in diam, flowers highly fragrant, white, with 10-12 mm broad segments.
Perhaps we should avoid consulting The Plant List for cases where better options like GRIN are available. The Plant List records all the three as distinct species, but interestingly considers A. amabile var. augustum (Roxb. ex Ker Gawl.) Ker Gawl. as synonym of C. asiaticum var. asiaticum,, but if you look at their source (World Checklist) the citation is C. augustum Roxb. (which The Plant List treats as independent species) as synonym of C. amabile.
It would be good to know whether our plants fits C. amabile or C. augustum on the basis of bulb size and perianth width, and wait for some recent publication which treats them better. GRIN considers C. amabile as synonym of C. asiaticum, whereas Kew Worl Check List treats C. amabile as independant species with C. augustum as its synonym.

Thank you very much for elaborating on three species of Crinum. Since i do not have bulb size and segment size i understand that this species should better be left as Crinum sp. only. Moreover i am not sure if this plant is fragrant or not, even if it is fragrant surely would be mildly.


Please check Crinum ×amabile Donn ex Ker Gawl.


 

 


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References:
Catalogue of Life  The Plant List Ver.1.1  WCSP  POWO  GBIF (High resolution specimens) Flora of peninsular India  Flowers of India  Indiana University Bloomington  Flower’s Pictures  Pacific Bulb Society

Updated on July 12, 2025

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