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Gymnadeniaorchidis Lindl., Gen. Sp. Orchid. Pl. 278 1835. (Syn: Gymnadeniacylindrostachya Lindl.; Gymnadeniadelavayi Schltr.; Gymnadeniahabenarioides (King & Pantl.) Verm.; Gymnadeniahimalayica Schltr.; Gymnadeniamicrogymnadenia (Kraenzl.) Schltr.; Gymnadeniaorchidis var. pantlingii Renz; Gymnadeniasouliei Schltr.; Gymnadeniaviolacea Lindl.; Gymnadeniaviolacea Schltr.; Habenariamicrogymnadenia Kraenzl.; Habenariaorchidis (Lindl.) Hook.f.; Habenariastoliczkae Kraenzl.; Orchiscylindrostachya (Lindl.) Kraenzl.; Orchishabenarioides King & Pantl. [Illegitimate]; Peristylusorchidis (Lindl.) Kraenzl.; Platantheraorchidis Lindl. ex Wall. [Invalid]);
Distribution: Pakistan, China, Nepal, India, Myanmar.
Vof Week: Orchidaceae – Gymnadenia orchidis Lindl.: Gymnadenia orchidis Lindl., Gen. Sp. Orchid. Pl.: 278 (1835).
Synonyms:
Habenaria orchidis (Lindl.) Hook.f., Fl. Brit. India 6: 142 (1890).
Peristylus orchidis (Lindl.) Kraenzl., Orchid. Gen. Sp. 1: 515 (1898).
Platanthera orchidis Lindl. ex Wall., Numer. List: 7039 (1832), nom. nud.
Gymnadenia cylindrostachya Lindl., Gen. Sp. Orchid. Pl.: 278 (1835).
Gymnadenia violacea Lindl., Gen. Sp. Orchid. Pl.: 278 (1835).
Habenaria stoliczkae Kraenzl., Bot. Jahrb. Syst. 16: 215 (1893).
Orchis habenarioides King & Pantl., Ann. Roy. Bot. Gard. (Calcutta) 8: 302 (1898), nom. illeg.
Habenaria microgymnadenia Kraenzl., Bot. Jahrb. Syst. 36(82): 23 (1905).
Orchis cylindrostachya (Lindl.) Kraenzl., Repert. Spec. Nov. Regni Veg. 5: 197 (1908).
Gymnadenia conopsea var. yunnanensis Schltr., Repert. Spec. Nov. Regni Veg. Beih. 4: 105 (1919), nom. nud.
Gymnadenia delavayi Schltr., Repert. Spec. Nov. Regni Veg. 16: 282 (1919).
Gymnadenia himalayica Schltr., Repert. Spec. Nov. Regni Veg. 16: 283 (1919).
Gymnadenia microgymnadenia (Kraenzl.) Schltr., Repert. Spec. Nov. Regni Veg. 16: 282 (1919).
Gymnadenia souliei Schltr., Repert. Spec. Nov. Regni Veg. 16: 284 (1919).
Gymnadenia habenarioides (King & Pantl.) Verm., Jahresber. Naturwiss. Vereins Wuppertal 25: 33 (1972).
Gymnadenia orchidis var. pantlingii Renz, Edinburgh J. Bot. 58: 112 (2001).
Distribution: Pakistan, China, Nepal, India, Myanmar.
Present pic taken in the main valley.
VoF Week :: DV :: 02 AUG 12 – 0958 :: ¿ Dactylorhiza hatagirea ? at Valley of Flowers: 2 AUG 12
Valley of Flowers … about 11000 – 12000 ft Habitat: sloping meadow It seems to be too dry during this period. This is not Dactylorrhiza. This should be Gymnadenia orchidis.
This is Gymnadenia orchidis. do you see all that in the top picture? We also could not find this in good condition Its the experience that counts 🙂 You may not be able to see the viscid glands but the labellum also is very different. Please check the two pics of Gymnadenia and Dactylorhiza that I have uploaded. the image itself speaks that flowers didnt die of the age but of the sun burn. It must have been hot in the valley for long time without any rain. That is why you dont see many flowers in healthy condition. These fluctuating rains are not good for the future of VoF. Yes … During that visit I asked many things about valley from forest rangers there. They told that this year flowers are less due to no rain in june nd now heavy rains are there causing slides. Also no of people visiting are increasing day by day and nobody is there to stop them plucking flowers. The entry fee should be atleast 500 there instead of rs 150 only.This will stop some non-serious person from entering the valley No this is Gymnadenia orchidis.
VoF Week :: DV :: 02 AUG 12 – 1132 :: tiny white orchid at Valley of Flowers: 2 AUG 12 Yes this is Gymnadenia orchidis. I am agree with …, It’s Gymnadenia orchidis. Person like me – new to Valley of Flowers gets maddenned by seeing flowers all around. I think you already know more plants than me. Just confused with these two orchids !!! Its funny but they are confusing…. though if you look closer they are not.
VOF Week: Gymnadenia orchidis at VOF: Sharing few pics of another terrestrial Orchid from VOF. Very attractive flowers of orchids
Orchidaceae fortnight :: Gymnadenia orchidis :: Valley of Flowers :: DV18 : 4 images. 6 posts by 4 authors. Finally, Gymnadenia orchidis. Wonderful to observe the thin long long inflorescence amongst other herbs.
ORCHIDACEAE Juss. Fortnight: Gymnadenia orchidis Lindl. from VoF, PKS-32 : 2 images. 4 posts by 4 authors. Gymnadenia orchidis Lindl., Gen. Sp. Orchid. Pl.: 278 (1835).
Synonyms: Habenaria orchidis (Lindl.) Hook.f., Fl. Brit. India 6: 142 (1890). Peristylus orchidis (Lindl.) Kraenzl., Orchid. Gen. Sp. 1: 515 (1898). Platanthera orchidis Lindl. ex Wall., Numer. List: n.º 7039 (1832), nom. nud. Gymnadenia cylindrostachya Lindl., Gen. Sp. Orchid. Pl.: 278 (1835). Gymnadenia violacea Lindl., Gen. Sp. Orchid. Pl.: 278 (1835). Habenaria stoliczkae Kraenzl., Bot. Jahrb. Syst. 16: 215 (1893). Orchis habenarioides King & Pantl., Ann. Roy. Bot. Gard. (Calcutta) 8: 302 (1898), nom. illeg. Habenaria microgymnadenia Kraenzl., Bot. Jahrb. Syst. 36(82): 23 (1905). Orchis cylindrostachya (Lindl.) Kraenzl., Repert. Spec. Nov. Regni Veg. 5: 197 (1908). Gymnadenia conopsea var. yunnanensis Schltr., Repert. Spec. Nov. Regni Veg. Beih. 4: 105 (1919), nom. nud. Gymnadenia delavayi Schltr., Repert. Spec. Nov. Regni Veg. 16: 282 (1919). Gymnadenia himalayica Schltr., Repert. Spec. Nov. Regni Veg. 16: 283 (1919). Gymnadenia microgymnadenia (Kraenzl.) Schltr., Repert. Spec. Nov. Regni Veg. 16: 282 (1919). Gymnadenia souliei Schltr., Repert. Spec. Nov. Regni Veg. 16: 284 (1919). Gymnadenia habenarioides (King & Pantl.) Verm., Jahresber. Naturwiss. Vereins Wuppertal 25: 33 (1972). Gymnadenia orchidis var. pantlingii Renz, Edinburgh J. Bot. 58: 112 (2001). Distribution: Pakistan to C. China
Fwd: Orchid used for medicine in Kashmir. Identification sought. : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (8)
I am sharing some images I took of an orchid which had been dug up by a local Kashmiri between Khelanmarg and Gulmarg in Kashmir for use as a medicine.
Since this group is blessed with some Orchidaceae specialists, it makes sense for me to seek their thoughts as to its identity, rather than speculating myself. As I have explained before, I view Orchidaceae as merely another plant family. Unless one makes a special effort, it is not possible to reliably identify many genera and/or species.
Furthermore, the specimen is at the fruiting stage which makes it much harder than when in flower.
I was reminded, when I came across the orchid being dug up during my last visit to Kashmir a few years ago about what is known in Tibetan Medicine as “Dhang lags” – this transliteration is translated as “hand-shaped-root”.
In Ladakh the local amchis collect what I understand to be Dactylorhiza hatagirea under this Tibetan name.
The roots are often of considerable importance identification-wise for doctors of Traditional Tibetan Medicine – far more so than in Western plant identification/classification – as are taste and smell.
I shall submit an additional post about D.hatagirea and related species.
Images 1-8 taken between Khelanmarg & Gulmarg, Kashmir.
Both Dactylorhiza and Gymnadenia have digitate tubers.The flowers are dry so I cant make out clearly, but I think this is Gymnadenia orchidis. Labellum is short in length with three distinct lobes as in fifth pic I can see. Thanks for information and most likely orchid. I realised that I did not take close-ups of the young fruits/dried-up flowers, making your task more difficult. No doubt if you had been there you would have examined the specimen more closely with a hand-lens, revealing important
characteristics.
As you and I (but not everyone) realise, traditional identification and full DETERMINATIONS have been based upon examination either with the naked eye or using a hand-lens @ x10 or x20 magnification or IF required at higher magnification using a binocular microscope of dried, pressed specimens.
General photos do not always reveal the necessary details to be certain of an identification.
Perhaps, you could offer some TIPS (advice) to beginners with Orchidaceae (which includes me) as to what parts of orchids SHOULD be photographed close-up and in focus? Along with any notes to be taken “in the field” to help with subsequent identification efforts.
I think everyone realises that unless one is part of an officially sanctioned survey team/expedition it is against the rules to “dig up” orchids – even if characteristics of the tubers might be diagnostic.
May I repeat my previous WARNING that care should be taken when photographing terrestrial orchids, as it is all too easy to unintentionally damage smaller, non-flowering specimens of the same species close to the flowering examples which might have caught your eye. Trampling can cause greater harm than realised.
As to the previous records for Gymnadenia orchidis Lindl. in Kashmir. Stewart recorded it @ 3300-3900m from above Sonamarg and the Lidder Valley (beyond Pahlgam).
I would estimate the altitude where the orchid had been dig up to be 3000m or even less, so well below any of Stewart’s records but not excessively so, given how infrequently most orchids are found/recorded.
‘Plants of Gulmarg’ (Naqshi, Singh & Koul in 1984) did not list this species making it a second New record for the ‘Gulmarg’ area, along with Herminium monorchis – unless others have recorded them in the intervening period. The fact that I came across both during a single, brief visit on my last time in Kashmir does illustrate how poorly known Orchidaceae is in much of the Himalaya – though this applies to many families and genera.
This situation is complicated by the fluctuation in population size of colonies of any given orchid species from year-to-year – something which happens in the UK and, presumably, also in the Himalaya.
Enumeration of the Flowering Plants of Nepal records G.orchidis from Kashmir to Bhutan & SE Tibet @ 3000-4700m. The latter elevation being quite high for an orchid – even beating Herminium monorchis and several others which are known to 4600m. I shouldn’t think there are many Himalayan orchids known from 5000m+
The non-taxonomists amongst this group may be interested to know that this plant has previously been known as Habernaria orchidis, Orchis habernarioides and under other species of Gymnadenia! And no doubt be mumbling about “Why can’t these ‘botanists’ make their minds up….!”
I plan to post the few images I have of what I understand to be Dactylorhiza hatagirea (and related species) plus information for your comments.
Could this be Dactylorhiza hatagirea?
If not , any help on the correct identity is appreciated.
Date: 29.07.2019, Valley of Flowers
pictures of leaves and whole plant will be appreciated
Looks matching but difficult for confirmation.
Also check images at Gymnadenia orchidis
This is Gymnadenia orchidis. You can find both in VoF growing together.
wonderful to know. terrestrial orchids then. do they grow in temperate or tropical climes too? I’d confirmation : 1 image.
Gymnadenia orchidis?
Yes looks like Gymnadenia orchidis.
I’d confirmation : 1 image.
Gymnadenia orchidis? Collected at an altitude of about 4000 m.
Identified as Gymnadenia orchidis by … in another post.
Id confirmation : 1 image.
Identified as Gymnadenia orchidis by … in another post.
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