Prunus cerasoides Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don, Prodromus florae nepalensis; 1825 239 1825. (syn: Cerasus carmesina (H.Hara) H.Ohba; Cerasus cerasoides (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) S.Ya.Sokolov; Cerasus cerasoides (D. Don) Tsitsvidze & Matinyan (ambiguous synonym); Cerasus cerasoides var. rubea (Ingram) T. T. Yu & C. L. Li; Cerasus majestica (Koehne) H.Ohba; Cerasus pectinata Spach; Cerasus phoshia Buch.-Ham. ex D. Don; Cerasus puddum Roxb. ex DC. (ambiguous synonym); Cerasus puddum Ser. (ambiguous synonym); Maddenia pedicellata Hook. fil.; Microcerasus pectinata M. Roem.; Microcerasus phoshia M. Roem.; Prunus carmesina Hara; Prunus cerasoides var. majestica (Koehne) Ingram; Prunus cerasoides var. rubea Ingram; Prunus cerasoides var. tibetica C.K. Schneid.; Prunus hosseusii Diels; Prunus majestica Koehne; Prunus pectinata Walp.; Prunus puddum Roxb. ex Brandis (ambiguous synonym); Prunus puddum Roxb. ex Wall. (ambiguous synonym); Prunus silvatica Roxb.; Prunus sylvatica Hook. fil.);
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China (NW-Yunnan), S-Tibet, Bhutan, N-India, Jammu & Kashmir, N-Laos, Nepal, Sikkim, N-Thailand, N-Vietnam, Myanmar [Burma] (Chin, Kachin, Magway, Mandalay, Shan), Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe (I) as per Catalogue of Life;
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Common name: Wild Himalayan Cherry • Hindi: पदम Padam, Padmakashtha • Marathi: padmaka, padmakastha, padmakaashta • Tamil: patumugam • Malayalam: patimukam • Telugu: padmakla • Kannada: padmaka • Khasi: Dieng kaditusoo • Mizo: Tlaizawng, Tlaizowng • Sanskrit: Charu, Hima, Kaidara, kedaraja, malaya, maleya, padmagandhi, पद्मक Padmaka • Nepali: पैयु Painyu
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Rosaceae Week- Prunus puddum from Shimla:
This is Prunus puddum Roxb. shot from Shimla last year (November 2010). It is occasionally found there.


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The last flowering trees Dalhousie- Al031211:
The last of the flowering trees of the season … for id..

Location – Near Dalhousie
Altitude 1200 mts

Habit tree
Habitat… ?? Wild
Height 10- 15 mts

Season November


Probably Prunus carmesina from Rosaceae.
But not very sure kindly wait for confirmation.


To me they look like Himalayan cherry prunus cerasoides


Yes, This should be Prunus cerasoides, I came across many of them while at Shimla last year.


The plant in picture looks very much like Prunus padus commonly called Pajja.


I think you have confused with Prunus puddum. It is now treated as synonym of Prunus cerasoides about which (Padam) … has also mentioned.
Prunus padus a European plant (Bird cherry) , and the Himalayan plant correctly Prunus falcata (Himalayan bird cherry) are quite distinct with white flowers in almost spike-like racemes, and some times put is a separate genus Padus.


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Prunus puddum from Shimla
Pls validate

The ID is correct as per my information, P. puddum is recorded from Shimla by Col Henry Collett in FLORA SIMLENSIS.


This has been discussed in another thread also. The correct name is now Cerasus cerasoides (Buch.-Ham. ex D. Don) S.Y. Sokolov


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Tree For ID : Bhimtal,Uttarakhand : 310313 : AK-1 :
A small tree seen at a resort in Bhimtal, on the 23rd of March,2013.
Small oblong fruits seen.
Need help to id this tree.


I hope Prunus cerasoides (P. puddum)


Flowers of this species (different from others) appear in November-December.


Prunus cerasoides D.Don (Rosaceae), Himalayan Wild Cherry, locally called as ‘Painyyan’ or ‘Paddam’.
Plant regarded as sacred.



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Cherry blossoms :  2 posts by 2 authors. 2 images.
Last evening I found this bunch on a nearby tree—the first cherry blossom of the season. These wild cherries grow well here and will soon cover our slopes with a pink carpet. A great time to be here!
Himalayan Wild Cherry (Cerasus cerasoides)
Dal Lake, Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
1750m approx.
24 October 2014.

Wonderful pics
When they fruit lets hope we get to see them thru your lens

It is commonly known as Padam (Pajja in Himachal). It flowers at a time when most of the plants start entering into dormancy and make the Himalayan Hills beautiful. It is a sacred plant associated with Lord Vishnu which gives fertility and survival. Kindly find attached a research paper mentioning its most of the uses. Ignore Fig. 1 as it is Ajuga parviflora and not Ajuga integrifolia.
Attachments (1)- Medicinal Plants of the Shimla Hills.pdf


It is Prunus cerasoides =  Padmakh, Pajja, the first tree to flower during late autumn and before winters set in. Have medicinal & magico-religious properties.


Excellent images.
Are any saplings or young trees available for this species anywhere ?



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Tree for identification from Gangtok Zoo, Apr-15. : 11 posts by 6 authors. Attachments (2)
Please identify this tree photographed in Gangtok zoo, Sikkim, April 15.

Is it Bird Cherry?


efi page on Muntingia calabura (Bird Cherry)


Doesn’t look like Muntingia calabura to me as the leaf base of the same is normally oblique. Further the leaf nerves are different. This looks more like a Rosaceae member.


For me this is certainly  not Muntingia calabura (Bird Cherry)


… has recently sent in a Bird cherry case :
Prunus cornuta (Wall. ex Royle) Steud. (fr. Churdhar) : VG-JUL-14
nice to do comparison with your case


It doesn’t look like Bird cherry (Muntingia calabura) to me.


Prunus cerasoides


 


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Rosaceae Fortnight- Prunus cerasoides from Himachal-GSG06/Sept 2015 : 1 post by 1 author. Attachments (1)
It is wild cherry, Prunus cerasoides, locally known as ‘Paja’.
Its wood is prized as ‘Padam kashth’ in Indian Systems of Medicine. In local culture, the groom is made to take bath under a canopy made of the branches of this tree.



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Tree ID Request – Uttarakhand : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (2)
I would appreciate help with identifying this tree found in Uttarakhand at about 6500 ft altitude. These pictures were taken in Pangot, 15 kms from Nainital, last week. The seed of the fruit is a favourite of the Spot-winged Grosbeaks. In fact, we honed in on this tree and bird, hearing the crackling sound of the Grosbeak breaking the seeds!

 Seems to be Prunus cerasoides, the wild cherry!!


Prunus cerasoides, locally known as Payya or Payan in Uttrakhand.



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Prunus cerasoides D. Don (accepted name) : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (8)

Location: Godawari, Nepal
Altitude: 5000 ft.
Date: 10 January 2017
Flowers : 30 November 2013   Ripe Fruit : March
Nepali Names : पैंयु Painyu / बन पैंयु Ban Painyu

Superb!!!


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Wild Himalayan cherry: Prunus cerasoides
FROM MY BLOG
http://anilkthakur.blogspot.in/2015/04/

Wonderful Presentation.



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ID Please November24 North Bengal 2 : 8 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1)
Id of this two plant please.
North Bengal, WB
24.11.17

Any front view ?

Prunus sp. I only have this picture sent by my friend to me


Prunus cerasoides is one possibility.
Please check eFI for this species.

Thanks, …, for the id.
To me also appear close to images at Prunus cerasoides


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Prunus sp. for ID at Munnar- PKA8 : 9 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (6)
Seen this beautiful tall tree near Mattupetty Dam Munnar.
Looks like some Prunus sp.
Family: Rosaceae.
Requesting ID..

For me also it is Prunus species. I have seen Prunus species in California. They produce most beautiful flowers.


crab apple. seems to be of weeping habit. crabs hybridize and are hybridezed by growers, galore. closest i came to is Ruby Tears™ Weeping Crabapple

Malus ‘Bailears’
another contender could be Malus ‘louisa”
but its just an idea
open to sugesions

Prunus cerasoides D. Don



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Prunus cerasoides D. Don : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (4)- around 600 kb each.
Location:  Karyavinayak, Kathmandu, Nepal
Elevation :  4500 ft.
Date  3 December 2018
Habit : Wild 


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MS March, 2019/04 Prunus sp. (carmesina?) for ID : 9 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (3)
Location : Vaphai, Mizoram
Altitude : ca. 1,600 m.
Date : 21-03-2019
Habit : Deciduous tree (up to 30m tall ?), somewhat resembling Prunus cerasoides in appearance, except colour of flowers and flowering time.
Habitat : Wild

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Colour appears to be OK, but flowering time appears odd as per observations at Prunus cerasoides. I feel it is close.
May be unseasonal flowering ?

Sir, did you photograph the bark? P. cerasoides has a somewhat unique bark..


Prunus nepalensis Hook ??



Stem/bark of same Prunus sp.
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Does look like P. Cerasoides

It might be variety of Prunus cerasoides. There are 2 varieties. One is fl. pink or white(Nov.-Dec.) and other is fl. crimson (March).

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Same Prunus to help id is attached herewith.
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SK1943 24 May 2019 : 15 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (8)- around 700 kb each.
Location: Nagarkot, Bhaktapur
Date: 16  May 2019
Elevation: 2020 m.
Habit : Wild 

Rather this one looks Homalium napaulense (DC.) Benth.
…: Please look into this.

Looks like some Corchorus sp. sir; check it once.


I feel this plant shrub; what is this habit (means Tree, Shrub-like this )


Corchorus capsularis L ?? It is shrub like.
Please note the round structures at the serrated tips of leaf.
Has it already flowered or yet to flower?

I think not yet flowering.


Do you think it is matching ? Did you observe round tips of serrated leaf margin ?


yeah, sir, I observed; looks different from corchorus margins and stipules also.


Interesting. Sir, wait for the flowers

I shall try !


Can it be some Grewia species?


Leaf morphology and stipules point towards Prunus sp. Kindly focus on Prunus species.  Any photograph of flowers?


… is perfectly right.
It seems to match with images of Prunus cerasoides Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don with similar stipules and two dot like projections on the petiole at the base of the leave.

I guess correct ID. Young branch !


Some more images of the first Cherry blossoms of the season.


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Cherry Blossoms/ABOCT18 : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3).

Himalayan Wild Cherry (Cerasus cerasoides)
Dal Lake, Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
1750m approx.
25 October 2014.


nice. i can even easily see the toothed edges of leaves


 


Cherry Blossom/ABNOV11 : 3 posts by 3 authors.

This one is in full bloom.
Himalayan Wild Cherry (Cerasus cerasoides)
Dal Lake, Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
1750m approx.
12 November 2014.

This is really beautiful..


wonderful
its even better when you find flowers cropping up on new branches right off of the bark… and a little sun streams in makes for magical pictures try it this week end daytime

And these ones are orange now and I tasted one the other day. There was hardly any flesh on the pit and it dried my throat immediately. So not a fruit that the name suggests but technically yes…

Cerasus cerasoides– Wild Cherry
Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
1800m
27 March 2015
Attachments (1)

Finally the sweet ones. These ones were fleshy and not at all bad to eat. It was raining and I could sample only one before scurrying for cover.

Dharamshala, HP
1500m
2 April 2015
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Cerasus cerasoides/ABDEC36 : 1 post by 1 author. Attachments (8)
Today, on my walk, I noticed this small tree growing almost parallel to the ground. It’s beautiful silvery bark was characteristic Wild Cherry and I took some photographs to share with you all. I am including some new shoots and leaf close ups too.
Himalayan Wild Cherry (Cerasus cerasoides)
Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
20 December 2014


I noticed the first blossoms yesterday (10.10.16) and took a walk to find more. The trees are yet to be covered fully in these pretty pink blossoms but here are some emerging flowers and buds.
6 images.

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Cerasus cerasoides/ABFEB02 : 1 post by 1 author. 3 images.

And the unripe fruits are out (some since mid-January) on the wild cherry. I will update when they ripen.
Wild Himalayan Cherry (Cerasus cerasoides)
2000m, above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala,
Himachal Pradesh
15 Feb. 2015


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Id of Flower – ID 26112019SH1 : 13 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (1) – 802 kb.
Flower for id pl. Local people call this ‘पदम’ tree.

Location – Chopta (Uttarakhand)
Date – November 2019


not knowing pdma tree. i searched, found it after half an hour.
padma search term is wrong. it should be Padam…. spelling.
found the following paper:
http://www.ethnoleaflets.com/leaflets/garhwal.htm by Balwant Kumar of Department of Botany, Kumaun University Nainital, India
this is Prunus cerasoides Don. 1825.
searching for flowers and lifestory of Prunus cerasoides Don. 1825. found your pictures match up and found a hindi essay that says its a threatened tree
https://www.jagran.com/uttarakhand/

Thank you so much Ushadi Ji for Id and some additional interesting information through the link. Although they have mentioned that it’s a threatened species, fortunately I could see number of these trees in Chopta-Mandal region.


I had seen similar tree-flowers of Peach Fruit Tree in Bhutan last year. I think they too belong to the same Genus – Prunus.


threatened status is a tricky thing. Threatened status is not removed when one sees a few trees in the same area.
… who deals in Orchids and many of them are threatened, he can perhaps explain it better in lingo i can understand. so copying this to him too

Thank you … What is the question here?


i had said this tree PADAM was Prunus cerasoides Don. 1825 and that it was listed as threatened in this link:
and found a hindi essay that says its a threatened tree
to which Shoba mentioned that she “Although they have mentioned that it’s a threatened species,fortunately I could see number of these trees in Chopta-Mandal region.”
i take it we need a short explanation of what is threatened and that finding even a small stand of the same tree does not negate the threatened perception or listing. thats where i thought you can help us out

Threatened is a very popular term used by people, often unscientifically. Originally it is used in context of IUCN Redlisting. In redlisting we talk about the threat to a species and based on the intensity of threat a species is provided a Redlist category. Very often people say RET species, Rare Endangered and Threatened. A species can be rare naturally but not Endangered or Threatened, and a species can be Endangered or Threatened but may not be rare.

Prunus cerasoides is classified as Least Concerned in IUCN Redlist at global level. The major threat to this species globally is logging and wood harvesting as per IUCN and also an unknown disease which kills the plant. Plant is also supposed to be used in horticulture and medicine and is a very popular garden plant.
But then there are many regional issues. It may happen that at the local level the numbers are going down in Uttarakhand as mentioned by D.K.Joshi in your link. All depends on when scientists are doing the threat assessment what literature they had in their hand to extract information out of it. Secondly the status may change, may go up or go down depending upon the situation. A plant could be abundant in Chopta but still highly threatened at other places. This species is planted, may be thats why it looks common, but may be they dont produce new plants (no new recruitment), who knows. I will tell you one example in Hong Kong. We have an orchid Bulbophyllum bicolor in Hong Kong at around 12 locations. Plants look healthy and some populations are huge. You will say they dont look threatened. But they are. Why? because they never set fruits. We have not seen a single fruit in last 10 years atleast at any of the population. In Laos they say there are 6 elephants left, but in India we have around 30,000 individuals, but they are Endangered and you very well know why.
Will tell you another unrelated story. One person from oxford did a study on a species of Cycas from south India. This was a recently described species, Cycas swamyi which was earlier believed to be Cycas circinalis. Cycas circinalis is Endangered on the IUCN list. But no one assessed Cycas swamyi so the student went inside the protected area in india and harvested the plants for his study. Paper came to me for review. I rejected it on two basis: 1. It was illegal to harvest a plant from inside a protected area and author can go to jail.
2. It was illegal to harvest a plant which I will say is Critically Endangered (highest threat category as per IUCN). Journal replied to me that the species is not assessed so how can I say it has higher threat. I replied that the species was described from a single sub-population of a species which is Endangered (a lower threat category), then by logic it becomes Critically Endangered.
Reference:
Rhodes, L., Pollard, R.P. & Maxted, N. 2016. Cerasus cerasoidesThe IUCN Red List of Threatened Species 2016: e.T50026860A50670270. http://dx.doi.org/10.2305/IUCN.UK.2016.0670270.enDownloaded on 29 November 2019.

Thank you … Now i can// we can put it in perspective. so not only numbers, but ability to grow the population, set fruits/ give rise to off-springs, and presence or absence of external threats, some that lead to fatalities, etc etc collectively lead to Threatening a species… so its a complex issue. not to be taken lightly.
and not to be mislead or lulled into false sense of security if there are planted stands of some species. as in this case, its planted for its beautiful flowers.
but in reality in the wild it may be threatened. because of increased logging, or not regenerating on its own in any appreciable numbers.
your analogy with the elephants is very apt. yes, they are threatened.
you have a knack for explaining botany/biology  in very easy understandable language. that’s a gift. i appreciate it.
that also makes a very good candidate for lectureships and professorship anywhere in the world.’

Thanks. Yes I am planning to shift to US, and looking for a job, HAHAHA!!

Yes it is not only numbers, but lot of other things that help in deciding the threat status. For example there is species A, many individuals, produce fruits and seedlings every year. Plant is found exclusively in a valley. There is no threat. Number is in 5000 mature individuals. Accordingly to IUCN it is least concerned. Now lets make a dam at the other end of the valley. The species has threat and if you can show that population is declining, the species even with 5000 mature individuals can be classified as Vulnerable.
A species distributed from Japan to Europe and Australia.  Tubers are collected for making salep. 1000s of mature individuals, high regenerating capacity, but still it can only be classified as Near Threatened.
There is a definition of mature individual in IUCN. Lets say one orchid and you see a bit population and you assume they are 30,000 in number. You will say Least Concerned. Then you come to know that this orchid produce branches and scattered all over the rock. So what you see scattered may look like 30,000 mature individual, but actually there is only a single individual (single genotype). Lets say this species needs two genotypes to make fruits (not very uncommon to have this phenomenon in orchids. Bulbophyllum bicolor is example). In this condition I will say AB ISKA TO BHAGWAAN MALIK HAI, CRITICALLY ENDANGERED and HEADING TOWARDS EXTINCTION. There are many such examples. There were tigers in China and in Hong Kong. The last one was shot in Hong Kong in 1947. So in China it is already Extinct in Wild (an IUCN category) but we still have it in India and it is Endangered (lower category thatn Critically Endangered)
All depends on how detailed information you have when you start assessing the threat to a particular species.

…, just wanted to ask whether these are Peach fruit Genus ? Looked very similar to me and although it was mentioned as a threatened sp. I saw number of these trees on the way. Just looked like Cherry Blossom.



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Id for BRS 300716- 1 : 5 posts by 3 authors.
Pl. Confirm the identity of the attached photos.
The photos received from one of friend.
Location – Nilgiris
Date- 28/07/2016
Habitat- garden
Habit- Tree


Please check species of Prunus of Rosaceae family


Yes,  also think that it is Prunus var.


Prunus species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available on net)


Alnus sp.?


Prunus cerasoides


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Flower for Id ( from Bhutan) – ID15032018SH2 : 5 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3) – around 900 kb each.

Flower for id pl.
Location – Near Gangtey ( Bhutan)
Date – March. 2018


Prunus cerasoides Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don


Thanks … I think you are right.

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MS,Oct.,2021/59 Prunus sp. for id.: 4 images.
Location : Vaphai

Date : 20-03-2019
Habit : Small to medium-sized deciduous tree.
Habitat : Wild
Note : Somewhat similar with P.cerasoides, but color of flowers and flowering time are different. It may be variety of P.cerasoides.

Prunus cerasoides D. Don




Prunus cerasoides D. Don: 1 high res. image.

Location: Manma, Kalikot, West Nepal
Altitude:  1800m.
Date: 18 April 2022
Habit : Wild 

It is good genetic resources for cherry breeding for biotic and abiotic stress.



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