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Primula macrophylla D. Don, Prodr. Fl. Nepal. 80 80 1825. (Syn: Aleuritia pulverea (Fed.) Soják; Primula aitchisonii Pax; Primula atroviolacea Jacquem. ex Duby; Primula jaeschkeana A.Kern.; Primula laeschkeana A.Kern. ex Kolb; Primula macrophylla subsp. pulverea (Fed.) Halda; Primula meeboldii Pax; Primula pulverea Fed.; Primula purpurea Royle);
. E. & NE. Afghanistan to Central Asia and Himalaya: Afghanistan, East Himalaya, Nepal, Pakistan, Tadzhikistan, Tibet, West Himalaya as per POWO; . Bracts linear-lanceolate, usually shorter than pedicel; corolla lobes entire or only slightly notched as per keys in Flora of China; .
Common name: Large Leaf Primrose • Ladakhi: སུལུམེནཏོཀ Sulumentok,་ཀལཅེ་ཀརཔ Kalche-karpa
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A robust plant. Leaves: Narrow lanceolate or strap shaped erect, entire or toothed 10-30cm usually with white farina(Powder like) beneath. Flowers 5-25 purple Lilac usually with a darker eye. Petals elliptic to ovate entire.
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Valley of Flowers1–
Picture taken in Valley Of Flowers, Uttaranchal in June 2007: (18.12.10, 1 pictures, 3 messages); I consider this has been correctly identified but apply a slightly different name drawing attention to the unpublished research of Professor Arve Elvebakk, University of Tromso, Norway (Curator of Tromso Arctic-Alpine Botanic Garden). The PRIMULA MACROPHYLLA (sensu lato – meaning in the broad sense) COMPLEX has troubled botanists and specialist growers for more than a century.
Elvebakk has recognised a separate taxon/species Primula meeboldii (honouring the German botanist who first collected pressed specimens of this on high passes in Ladakh in the 19th Century). It has pinkish flowers and occurs in Ladakh and some other regions. Hopefully the full details will be published in the not-too-distant future. Anyhow, I am in support of the separation of P.meeboldii at species level, along with P.macrophylla sensu stricto (in the strict sense) and Primula moorcroftiana as separate species. The image taken in Himachal Pradesh fits with what I currently consider to be typical Primula macrophylla* (syn. Primula macrophylla var. macrophylla). I have observed both P.macrophylla and P.moorcroftiana on the Rohtang. P.moorcrotiana is mostly found from 4000-4500m (I have not been higher but it may well grow at higher altitudes) whereas P.macrophylla is mostly found between 3000-3600m. I have found Primula macrophylla sensu stricto to vary a lot – so may well be subdivided at some point but the plant photographed in the VOF is not Primula moorcroftiana nor P.meeboldii nor matches the unknown(s) in Kashmir. Please note that I have observed and photographed Primulas of this complex in the Kashmir Valley which do not fit either P.moorcroftiana, P.macrophylla or P.meeboldii – thus at least one more taxon is involved.
Primula macrophylla var. moorcroftiana (Wallich ex Klatt) W. W. Smith & H. R. Fletcher, Trans. Roy. Soc. Edinburgh. 60: 590. 1942.
Synonym:
Primula moorcroftiana Wallich ex Klatt, J. Bot. 6: 120. 1868.
Family: PRIMULACEAE
Current pic taken just below the main Gurudwara of Hem Kunt Sahib. I think your two pics got interchanged. This one with entire petals is Primula macrophylla, and the one with two-lobed petals is Primula macrophylla var. moorcroftiana Sorry … sir, budhape me galatiya hoon jaati hai…. 🙁 You are right, this is Primula macrophylla var. macrophylla. !! I consider this has been correctly identified but apply a slightly different name drawing attention to the unpublished research of Professor Arve Elvebakk, University of Tromso, Norway (Curator of Tromso Arctic-Alpine Botanic Garden). The PRIMULA MACROPHYLLA (sensu lato – meaning in the broad sense) COMPLEX has troubled botanists and specialist growers for more than a century.
Elvebakk has recognised a separate taxon/species Primula meeboldii (honouring the German botanist who first collected pressed specimens of this on high passes in Ladakh in the 19th Century). It has pinkish flowers and occurs in Ladakh and some other regions. Hopefully the full details will be published in the not-too-distant future. Anyhow, I am in support of the separation of P.meeboldii at species level, along with P.macrophylla sensu stricto (in the strict sense) and Primula moorcroftiana as separate species. The image taken in Himachal Pradesh fit with what I currently consider to be typical Primula macrophylla* (syn. Primula macrophylla var. macrophylla). I have observed both P.macrophylla and P.moorcroftiana on the Rohtang. P.moorcrotiana is mostly found from 4000-4500m (I have not been higher but it may well grow at higher altitudes) whereas P.macrophylla is mostly found between 3000-3600m. Please note that I have observed and photographed Primulas of this complex in the Kashmir Valley which do not fit either P.moorcroftiana, P.macrophylla or P.meeboldii – thus at least one more taxon is involved.
VoF Week: 19092012 BS 20 Herb for id from way to Hemkund Sahib: It looks fruits of Primula macrophylla. I also think P. macrophylla I shall comment about this later. See my recent posts about PRIMULA MACROPHYLLA, PRIMULA MOORCROFTIAN, PRIMULA MEEBOLDII and PRIMULA SP. UNIDENTIFIED FROM KASHMIR.
VoF Week :: DV :: 03 AUG 12 – 1231 :: faded blue flowered herb along Hemakund – Ghangaria trail: … and a few metres away … Perhaps a Primula sp. A wild guess: Primula macrophylla Appears as Primula macrophylla only as per another thread
Primula macrophylla (Primulaceae), Larged leaved Himalayan Primrose.: Primula macrophylla is an alpine primrose in the Himalaya. I consider this has been correctly identified but apply a slightly different name drawing attention to the unpublished research of Professor Arve Elvebakk, University of Tromso, Norway (Curator of Tromso Arctic-Alpine Botanic Garden). The PRIMULA MACROPHYLLA (sensu lato – meaning in the broad sense) COMPLEX has troubled botanists and specialist growers for more than a century. Elvebakk has recognised a separate taxon/species Primula meeboldii (honouring the German botanist who first collected pressed specimens of this on high passes in Ladakh in the 19th Century). It has pinkish flowers and occurs in Ladakh and some other regions. Hopefully the full details will be published in the not-too-distant future. Anyhow, I am in support of the separation of P.meeboldii at species level, along with P.macrophylla sensu stricto (in the strict sense) and Primula moorcroftiana as separate species. The images taken in VOF fits with what I currently consider to be typical Primula macrophylla* (syn. Primula macrophylla var. macrophylla). I have observed both P.macrophylla and P.moorcroftiana on the Rohtang. P.moorcrotiana is mostly found from 4000-4500m (I have not been higher but it may well grow at higher altitudes) whereas P.macrophylla is mostly found between 3000-3600m. Please note that I have observed and photographed Primulas of this complex in the Kashmir Valley which do not fit either P.moorcroftiana, P.macrophylla or P.meeboldii – thus at least one more taxon is involved. I have found Primula macrophylla sensu stricto to vary a lot – so may well be subdivided at some point but the plant photographed in the VOF is not Primula moorcroftiana nor P.meeboldii nor matches the unknown(s) in Kashmir.
Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb5 for Id- JM: A mix of Pedicularis, Parnassia and possibly Primula (in fruit). I have to basically tried to show one plant as in picture 2. Primula in dried stage. The second and third picture show fruiting of Primula macrophylla. Much harder to decide when at fruiting stage as am still uncertain about any differences in calyx characteristics. Overall, this seems most likely to be ‘macropylla‘.
So I consider this has been correctly identified but apply a slightly different name drawing attention to the unpublished research of Professor Arve Elvebakk, University of Tromso, Norway (Curator of Tromso Arctic-Alpine Botanic Garden). The PRIMULA MACROPHYLLA (sensu lato – meaning in the broad sense) COMPLEX has troubled botanists and specialist growers for more than a century.
Elvebakk has recognised a separate taxon/species Primula meeboldii (honouring the German botanist who first collected pressed specimens of this on high passes in Ladakh in the 19th Century). It has pinkish flowers and occurs in Ladakh and some other regions. Hopefully the full details will be published in the not-too-distant future. Anyhow, I am in support of the separation of P.meeboldii at species level, along with P.macrophylla sensu stricto (in the strict sense) and Primula moorcroftiana as separate species. The images taken fit with what I currently consider to be typical Primula macrophylla* (syn. Primula macrophylla var. macrophylla). I have observed both P.macrophylla and P.moorcroftiana on the Rohtang. P.moorcrotiana is mostly found from 4000-4500m (I have not been higher but it may well grow at higher altitudes) whereas P.macrophylla is mostly found between 3000-3600m. I have found Primula macrophylla sensu stricto to vary a lot – so may well be subdivided at some point but the plant photographed does not appear to match P.moorcroftiana nor P.meeboldii nor matches the unknown(s) in Kashmir..
Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (Incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight- Primula for id from Hemkunt Sahib :: NS June 17 : 7 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (5). Primula macrophylla The photographs you have displayed are of Himalayan Primula denticulata Flowers many, in dense umbellate heads, calyx chartaceous- Primula denticulata. Yes to me also it is P. macrophylla. Thanks … for valuable information… Much harder to be sure when in fruiting stage. I am still uncertain about distinguishing between ‘macrophylla’ and ‘moorcroftiana’ on the basis of calyx characteristics only. The foliage of what I consider to be ‘macrophylla’ varies considerably. These leaves come close to ‘moorcroftiana’ but I have seen foliage of ‘macrophylla’ amongst boulders at some 3000m on the Rohtang Pass which are close to these.
Overall I consider this has been correctly identified but apply a slightly different name drawing attention to the unpublished research of Professor Arve Elvebakk, University of Tromso, Norway (Curator of Tromso Arctic-Alpine Botanic Garden). The PRIMULA MACROPHYLLA (sensu lato – meaning in the broad sense) COMPLEX has troubled botanists and specialist growers for more than a century.
Elvebakk has recognised a separate taxon/species Primula meeboldii (honouring the German botanist who first collected pressed specimens of this on high passes in Ladakh in the 19th Century). It has pinkish flowers and occurs in Ladakh and some other regions. Hopefully the full details will be published in the not-too-distant future. Anyhow, I am in support of the separation of P.meeboldii at species level, along with P.macrophylla sensu stricto (in the strict sense) and Primula moorcroftiana as separate species. The images taken fit with what I currently consider to be typical Primula macrophylla* (syn. Primula macrophylla var. macrophylla). I have observed both P.macrophylla and P.moorcroftiana on the Rohtang. P.moorcrotiana is mostly found from 4000-4500m (I have not been higher but it may well grow at higher altitudes) whereas P.macrophylla is mostly found between 3000-3600m. I have found Primula macrophylla sensu stricto to vary a lot – so may well be subdivided at some point but the plant photographed does not appear to match P.moorcroftiana nor P.meeboldii nor matches the unknown(s) in Kashmir..
Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primula macrophylla from Himachal: GSG-15 : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (2).
Primula macrophylla from Himachal [Sach Pass, Chamba; 3800 m asl] One of the most beautiful Primula in alpines of Himalaya. Frank Smythe was amazed by its beauty when he saw it in Bhyundar Valley while returning from Mt Kamet expedition. This species and few others were so abundant there that he named the valley as Valley of Flowers. Really beautiful flowers. Nicely captured through the lens too.
Primula macrophylla
A robust plant. Leaves: Narrow lanceolate or strap shaped erect, entire or toothed 10-30cm usually with white farina(Powder like) beneath. Flowers 5-25 purple Lilac usually with a darker eye. Petals elliptic to ovate entire. I consider this has been correctly identified but apply a slightly different name drawing attention to the unpublished research of Professor Arve Elvebakk, University of Tromso, Norway (Curator of Tromso Arctic-Alpine Botanic Garden). The PRIMULA MACROPHYLLA (sensu lato – meaning in the broad sense) COMPLEX has troubled botanists and specialist growers for more than a century.
Elvebakk has recognised a separate taxon/species Primula meeboldii (honouring the German botanist who first collected pressed specimens of this on high passes in Ladakh in the 19th Century). It has pinkish flowers and occurs in Ladakh and some other regions. Hopefully the full details will be published in the not-too-distant future. Anyhow, I am in support of the separation of P.meeboldii at species level, along with P.macrophylla sensu stricto (in the strict sense) and Primula moorcroftiana as separate species. The images taken fit with what I currently consider to be typical Primula macrophylla* (syn. Primula macrophylla var. macrophylla). I have observed both P.macrophylla and P.moorcroftiana on the Rohtang. P.moorcrotiana is mostly found from 4000-4500m (I have not been higher but it may well grow at higher altitudes) whereas P.macrophylla is mostly found between 3000-3600m. Please note that I have observed and photographed Primulas of this complex in the Kashmir Valley which do not fit either P.moorcroftiana, P.macrophylla or P.meeboldii – thus at least one more taxon is involved.
Plumbaginaceae, Primulaceae & Myrsinaceae Fortnight 1-14June2014: Primula macrophylla from Uttarakhand_DSR_20 : 4 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (1).
Primula macrophylla D. Don shot in Sunderdhunga Valley of Uttarakhand. The underside of the leaves of P.macrophylla is dusty white tomentose and if it is pressed against palm or any other object the clear cut image is printed. Of course the inflorescence quite resembles. Dark eyed beauty. I consider this has been correctly identified but apply a slightly different name drawing attention to the unpublished research of Professor Arve Elvebakk, University of Tromso, Norway (Curator of Tromso Arctic-Alpine Botanic Garden). The PRIMULA MACROPHYLLA (sensu lato – meaning in the broad sense) COMPLEX has troubled botanists and specialist growers for more than a century.
Elvebakk has recognised a separate taxon/species Primula meeboldii (honouring the German botanist who first collected pressed specimens of this on high passes in Ladakh in the 19th Century). It has pinkish flowers and occurs in Ladakh and some other regions. Hopefully the full details will be published in the not-too-distant future. Anyhow, I am in support of the separation of P.meeboldii at species level, along with P.macrophylla sensu stricto (in the strict sense) and Primula moorcroftiana as separate species. The images taken fit with what I currently consider to be typical Primula macrophylla* (syn. Primula macrophylla var. macrophylla). I have observed both P.macrophylla and P.moorcroftiana on the Rohtang. P.moorcrotiana is mostly found from 4000-4500m (I have not been higher but it may well grow at higher altitudes) whereas P.macrophylla is mostly found between 3000-3600m. Please note that I have observed and photographed Primulas of this complex in the Kashmir Valley which do not fit either P.moorcroftiana, P.macrophylla or P.meeboldii – thus at least one more taxon is involved.
Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primula sp. from Himachal: GSG-20 : 8 posts by 6 authors. Attachments (1).
I shot this Primula at Sach Pass (Chamba district, in Himachal; about 3800 m asl). Have not been able to fix its identity with the literature available with me. Previously I had kept it as P. macrophylla. However, during uploads for this fortnight, I find it different from the ones I have posted as P. macrophylla. Kindly help in its identification.. To me both (this and earlier posted) are P. macrophylla. Variability of the species can be observed in primula world: primulaworld Yes this is also Primula macrophylla. This is very variable species. Thanks …, this identifies mine post from VOF… Thanks … for confirming identification… Beautiful upload. The variation can be observed. I consider this has been correctly identified but apply a slightly different name drawing attention to the unpublished research of Professor Arve Elvebakk, University of Tromso, Norway (Curator of Tromso Arctic-Alpine Botanic Garden). The PRIMULA MACROPHYLLA (sensu lato – meaning in the broad sense) COMPLEX has troubled botanists and specialist growers for more than a century.
Elvebakk has recognised a separate taxon/species Primula meeboldii (honouring the German botanist who first collected pressed specimens of this on high passes in Ladakh in the 19th Century). It has pinkish flowers and occurs in Ladakh and some other regions. Hopefully the full details will be published in the not-too-distant future. Anyhow, I am in support of the separation of P.meeboldii at species level, along with P.macrophylla sensu stricto (in the strict sense) and Primula moorcroftiana as separate species. The images taken fit with what I currently consider to be typical Primula macrophylla* (syn. Primula macrophylla var. macrophylla). I have observed both P.macrophylla and P.moorcroftiana on the Rohtang. P.moorcrotiana is mostly found from 4000-4500m (I have not been higher but it may well grow at higher altitudes) whereas P.macrophylla is mostly found between 3000-3600m. However, I have found Primula macrophylla sensu stricto to vary a lot – so may well be subdivided at some point (note the silvery meal around the edge of the underside of the leaves) but the plant photographed is not Primula moorcroftiana nor P.meeboldii nor matches the unknown(s) in Kashmir.
Important to photograph both the upper and lower surface of Primula leaves – as well as close-ups of the calyces and corollas. . Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primula macrophylla D.Don from Rohtang Pass, H.P. – PKS PRIM 007 : 6 posts by 5 authors. 2 images. Primula macrophylla D.Don, Prodr. Fl. Nepal. 80. 1825.
Family: PRIMULACEAE
Current pic taken just below the main Gurudwara of Hem Kunt Sahib. Gorgeous, I love Primulas after Orchids 🙂 Beautiful and robust Primula of alpines.
Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (Incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight- Primula for id from VOF:: NS June 19 : 8 posts by 5 authors. Attachments (4). This could be Primula duthieana Balf. f. & W.W. Smith or Primula macrophylla var. macrophylla. Link of species with pictures from Primula World – A Visual Reference for the Genus Primula are as below:
Primula macrophylla var. macrophylla in my view Thanks … too for id confirmation.. A reply from …, Creator of Primula World – A Visual Reference for the Genus Primula : I consider this has been correctly identified but apply a slightly different name drawing attention to the unpublished research of Professor Arve Elvebakk, University of Tromso, Norway (Curator of Tromso Arctic-Alpine Botanic Garden). The PRIMULA MACROPHYLLA (sensu lato – meaning in the broad sense) COMPLEX has troubled botanists and specialist growers for more than a century. Elvebakk has recognised a separate taxon/species Primula meeboldii (honouring the German botanist who first collected pressed specimens of this on high passes in Ladakh in the 19th Century). It has pinkish flowers and occurs in Ladakh and some other regions. Hopefully the full details will be published in the not-too-distant future. Anyhow, I am in support of the separation of P.meeboldii at species level, along with P.macrophylla sensu stricto (in the strict sense) and Primula moorcroftiana as separate species. The images taken fit with what I currently consider to be typical Primula macrophylla* (syn. Primula macrophylla var. macrophylla). I have observed both P.macrophylla and P.moorcroftiana on the Rohtang. P.moorcrotiana is mostly found from 4000-4500m (I have not been higher but it may well grow at higher altitudes) whereas P.macrophylla is mostly found between 3000-3600m. I have found Primula macrophylla sensu stricto to vary a lot – so may well be subdivided at some point but the plant photographed in the VOF is not Primula moorcroftiana nor P.meeboldii nor matches the unknown(s) in Kashmir.
VoF Week :: DV :: 03 AUG 12 – 1231 :: faded blue flowered herb along Hemakund – Ghangaria trail: 3 AUG 12 … and a few metres away … Perhaps a Primula sp. A wild guess: Primula macrophylla My Similar pictures can be seen in another thread
I consider this has been correctly identified but apply a slightly different name drawing attention to the unpublished research of Professor Arve Elvebakk, University of Tromso, Norway (Curator of Tromso Arctic-Alpine Botanic Garden). The PRIMULA MACROPHYLLA (sensu lato – meaning in the broad sense) COMPLEX has troubled botanists and specialist growers for more than a century.
Elvebakk has recognised a separate taxon/species Primula meeboldii (honouring the German botanist who first collected pressed specimens of this on high passes in Ladakh in the 19th Century). It has pinkish flowers and occurs in Ladakh and some other regions. Hopefully the full details will be published in the not-too-distant future. Anyhow, I am in support of the separation of P.meeboldii at species level, along with P.macrophylla sensu stricto (in the strict sense) and Primula moorcroftiana as separate species. The images taken fit with what I currently consider to be typical Primula macrophylla* (syn. Primula macrophylla var. macrophylla). I have observed both P.macrophylla and P.moorcroftiana on the Rohtang. P.moorcrotiana is mostly found from 4000-4500m (I have not been higher but it may well grow at higher altitudes) whereas P.macrophylla is mostly found between 3000-3600m. I have found Primula macrophylla sensu stricto to vary a lot – so may well be subdivided at some point but the plant photographed in the VOF is not Primula moorcroftiana nor P.meeboldii nor matches the unknown(s) in Kashmir. Thank you very much … for validating the ID, and for related information The narrow foliage of the plant you photographed does not match the more typical leaves of Primula macrophylla (as I am calling it) [
Primula macrophylla var. macrophylla] but I have observed similar on specimens found at some 3000m on the Rohtang Pass
in HP.
Clearly, all taxa within the PRIMULA MACROPHYLLA COMPLEX vary a good deal and in time may be subdivided/separated further.
At times one just has to say, “that is the best/most I can say at present”.
The more close-ups we get of these Primulas the better we can understand them. Please be sure to take close-ups of the leaves next
time including undersides. This would help..
Enclosing some pictures for identification. Is it Pegaeophyton spp ??
Location : Khardung La
Altitude : 5000 m
Date: 24 August 2014 Primula macrophylla (Primulaceae) to me. This is not Pegaephyton scapiflorum. Whilst this plant is recorded from Ladakh up to 5800m it belongs to the Brassicaceae (previously
Cruciferae) family which has rather different foliage and fruits. This is a Primula belonging to the Primulaceae family. It is Primula meeboldii
I draw your attention to the unpublished research of Professor Arve Elvebakk, University of Tromso, Norway (Curator of Tromso Arctic-Alpine Botanic Garden). The PRIMULA MACROPHYLLA (sensu lato – meaning in the broad sense) COMPLEX has troubled botanists and specialist growers for more than a century. Elvebakk has recognised a separate taxon/species Primula meeboldii (honouring the German botanist who first collected pressed specimens of this on high passes in Ladakh in the 19th Century). It has pinkish flowers and occurs in Ladakh and some other regions. Hopefully the full details will be published in the not-too-distant future. The images taken on the Khardung La are of Primula meeboldii at the early fruiting stage – the flowers have gone over, its capsules are developing. Anyhow, I am in support of the separation of P.meeboldii at species level, along with P.macrophylla sensu stricto (in the strict sense) and Primula moorcroftiana as separate species. I have found Primula macrophylla sensu stricto to vary a lot – so may well be subdivided at some point but the plant photographed in the VOF is not Primula moorcroftiana nor P.meeboldii nor matches the unknown(s) in Kashmir.
Primula macrophylla :: VOF, Uttarakhand :: Aug 2018 :: ARKOCT-30 : 5 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (2) Saw this near Hemkund, Uttarakhand in Aug 2018, do not have any further pics.
Tentatively identified as Primula macrophylla based on similar pics by Dinesh ji, Balkar ji near or at the same location.
Requested to please validate, if possible.
Yes, appears close as per images at
VoF: BS 24082012 -2 Primula sp for id from the way to Hemkund Sahib: Primula macrophylla This is a bit different. This is Primula macrophylla var. moorcroftiana. This is not typical Primula macrophylla var. moorcroftiana. I shall comment further shortly once I have assigned names to all the postings of the Primula macrophylla complex – shall explain further. It appears more closer to Primula macrophylla rather than Primula macrophylla var. moocroftiana as per images and details herein.
Plant for ID: 311011 SRANA 03 Plant from Paddar Kishtwar J&K:
Identification request Date 14th June 2011
Location: Paddar valley district Kishtwar J&K.
Altitude: 4130 meters asl
GPS: 33.30 N and 76.34 E
Plant habit/habitat: Wild herb
Plant height; 1-2 feets I consider this to be an UNIDENTIFIED TAXON WITHIN THE PRIMULA MACROPHYLLA COMPLEX.
May I draw attention to the unpublished research of Professor Arve Elvebakk, University of Tromso, Norway (Curator of Tromso Arctic-Alpine Botanic Garden). The PRIMULA MACROPHYLLA (sensu lato – meaning in the broad sense) COMPLEX has troubled botanists and specialist growers for more than a century.
Elvebakk has recognised a separate taxon/species Primula meeboldii (honouring the German botanist who first collected pressed specimens of this on high passes in Ladakh in the 19th Century). It has pinkish flowers and occurs in Ladakh and some other regions. Hopefully the full details will be published in the not-too-distant future.
Anyhow, I am in support of the separation of P.meeboldii at species level, along with P.macrophylla sensu stricto (in the strict sense) and Primula moorcroftiana as separate species.
The image taken in the Paddar fits with what I photographed on the Sinthan Pass in the Kashmir Valley (with borders Kishtwar). It does not fit Primula macrophylla (P.macrophylla var. macrophylla) nor Primula moorcroftiana (P.macrophylla var. moorcroftiana) nor Primula meeboldii. It may well represent a separate taxon which in time might be published as a distinct species.
I have observed both P.macrophylla and P.moorcroftiana on the Rohtang Pass in Hiamchal Pradesh. P.moorcrotiana is mostly found from 4000-4500m (I have not been higher but it may well grow at higher altitudes) whereas P.macrophylla is mostly found between 3000-3600m.
I have found Primula macrophylla sensu stricto to vary a lot – so may well be subdivided at some point but the plant photographed in the VOF is not Primula moorcroftiana nor P.meeboldii nor matches the unknown(s) in Kashmir. It appears more closer to Primula macrophylla var. moocroftiana rather than Primula macrophylla as per images and details herein. In fact appears more close to Primula nivalis as per
yes … Primula nivalis differs from P. macrophylla (which was previously placed under P. nivalis as a variety) in leaves with denticulate margin, and shorter leaves as against entire margin and longer leaves in Primula macrophylla. I don’t think after separation of P. macrophylla and P. moorcroftiana, P. nivalis would be found in India. request for addition of Primula nivalis. : 5 posts by 1 author. 3 images- 2,4 & 6 mb each. What is worrying me is that POWO, Catalogue of Life and Flora of China, are not giving any distribution of this species (Primula nivalis Pall.) in India.
However images look quite close from the images at
botanicalillustrations 1
botanicalillustrations 2 Do you have any reference of it being found in India ? Reply from … in another thread: Primula nivalis differs from P. macrophylla (which was previously placed under P. nivalis as a variety) in leaves with denticulate margin, and shorter leaves as against entire margin and longer leaves in Primula macrophylla. I don’t think after separation of P. macrophylla and P. moorcroftiana, P. nivalis would be found in India.
Any one having access to The Genus Primula L. in India : A Taxonomic Revision by S.K. Basak, G. Maiti & P.K. Hajra published in 2014 can confirm
… is quite correct. This is a rather broad-leaved form of P. macrophylla. P. nivalis has annulate flowers (constricted at the mouth) and acute corolla lobes. It is not found in India.
Primula macrophylla D.Don ??? Yellowish plant may also be of Primula rosea Royle The ‘yellowish flowers’ are empty capsules of P. macrophylla from 2021.
Primula macrophylla .
Looks like Primula! Primula macrophylla D. Don ??
But I am not sure if it is the same or some other species.
Attached detailed images.
Pl. confirm or otherwise.
6 images. I guess leaves look different. No, this is indeed Primula macrophylla v macrophylla This is Primula macrophylla.       Attaching a few close up images. 6 images- 4 high res. |
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