Clematis gouriana ?

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Clematis gouriana ?;

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Photographed this climber at Hadsar fort, Maharashtra.

Local marathi name: Morwel
Bot. name:
Its a climber, found mostly on the top of trees like cactus. 

seen at high elevations in hills.

The BSI Flora says flowers less than 1.5cm for C.gouriana.
I am not sure how far that is true??

As regards other character; one has to look whether connectives prolonged beyond anther lobes then it may be C. hedysarifolia in which the flowers also are 1.5 to 2.5 cm across that is wider than C.gouriana

efi page on Clematis gouriana & Clematis hedysarifolia

C. gouriana has  four sepals, which look like petals – real petals are absent.

As such, It cannot be !

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This Clematis was recorded from Gori Valley..

is this Clematis gouriana ? ..please suggest

efi page on Clematis gouriana    

The plant uploaded seems to be Clematis vitalba

Thanks, …, But GRIN does not give any distribution of Clematis vitalba in India.

Clematis vitalba has got no distribution in India.
Does not look like C. gouriana. What would be  the elevation of them sp.?

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Flower for Id pl. Is it Wrightia religiosa.?
Location – Near Guhagar (Konkan, Maharashtra)

Date – 01.08.2017

I think it is some Clematis.

Thanks …. Can it be Clemantis terniflora ?

I am not sure at all … it looks like an ornamental … may be Clematis flammula. We will have to wait for comments.

Ok …

Thanks, …, for the id.
To me also appears close to images at Clematis flammula

Also check for Clematis gouriana .

I have C.flammula in my home garden.
Agree with … good possibility of Clematis gouriana.

But on another thought it looked C.heynei (रानजाई) to me ?

It is very difficult to distinguish certain species among Clematis as there are minute differences in floral / vegetative characters. Hence,  you need to check the characters carefully and it is possible only by you, as you have the access  to examine  the   specimen  the  plant you have photographed.

Photographs are often deceptive . Hence, professiona taxonomists always  suggest examination of the specimen physically.

Clematis smilacifolia Wall.

Looks different from images at Clematis smilacifolia

But the flowers of Clematis smilacifolia  look quite different. This matches with Clematis sp. I think.

Yes looks different!

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ID request: this plant was photographed day before yesterday in Bandhavgarh National Park.

Need help in ID
Plant – Vine flowering.
Habitat – Sal Forest
Place Bandhavgarh Ntl Park.

Date 31st March 2012.

… could it be some species of Clematis ?

I thought of Clematis gouriana.

yes Agree with …

…Leaves pinnately compound

Stamens glabrous – C.gouriana
Stamens hairy – C.roylei
Leaves simple or 1-3 foliolate
then C. smilacifolia or C.triloba

Ref. Flora of Madhya Pradesh by BSI. It writes about occurrence of C.triloba (with white flowers) in Shahdol where Bandhavgarh is situated.

Clematis brachiata is the correct name for Clematis triloba now.

The link says that it is under review and confidence level is only two stars.

Not sure whether we can accept it at this level or have to wait. Please guide.

C.brachiata and C.triloba are two different species if you compare it through available literature.

The basis difference according to Prodromus plantarum Capensium: is the leaf. Pinnate with 5 leaflets in brachiata and pinnate with three leaves in triloba – WHEN it was originally described.
But may be leaf variations have been observed often in these.
I will prefer not to conclude anything right now and take back my words. Sorry for misleading.

I got a chance to photograph the leaf pattern of this creeper today.

Hope this may help in ID of this creeper.

May be Clematis flammula as per details and keys herein.

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