Rubus pedunculosus D. Don, Prodr. Fl. Nepal. 234 234 1825. (Syn: Rubus concolor Wall. (ambiguous synonym); Rubus gracilis Roxb. (ambiguous synonym); Rubus gracilis var. chiliacanthus Hand.-Mazz.; Rubus gracilis var. hypargyrus (Edgew.) Focke; Rubus gracilis var. hypargyrus (Edgw.) S. K. Mukerjee; Rubus gracilis var. pluvialis Hand.-Mazz.; Rubus hypargyrus Edgew.; Rubus hypargyrus var. concolor (Hook. fil.) Hara; Rubus hypargyrus var. niveus (Wall. ex G. Don) Hara; Rubus niveus Wall. (ambiguous synonym); Rubus niveus var. concolor Hook. fil.; Rubus niveus var. hypargyrus (Edgew.) Hook. fil.; Rubus niveus var. niveus (Wall.) Hook. fil.; Rubus pedunculosus var. concolor (Hook. fil.) Kitam.; Rubus pedunculosus var. hypargyrus (Edgew.) Kitam.);    
China (W-Yunnan), SE-Tibet, Bhutan, NW-India, Jammu & Kashmir (Kashmir),
Pakistan (Pakistani Punjab), Nepal, Sikkim, Myanmar [Burma] (Chin)
as per Catalogue of Life;
Common name: Three-Leaf Raspberry
As per efi thread:
One the terminal leaflet of hoffmeisterianus is much larger than others and often 3-lobed, not 3-lobed in R. pedunculosus 
Calyx lobes of hoffmeisterianus are ovate and acute, in pedunculosus calyx lobes have long slender apices 
Leaflets are with blunt teeth in hoffmeisterianus, doubly sharply toothed in pedunculosus 
Leaves are densely white-wooly (matted wooly hairs) in hoffmeisterianus, white-hoary (white greyish white hairs)
in pedunculosus


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Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb32 for Id- JM: Wild Herb captured on 13/8/10 during the trek from Ghangaria (around 11,000 ft.) to Hemkunt Sahib (around 14000 ft.).


–  Can this be Rubus hypargyrus?


– it could be. According to GRIN R. hypagyrus should replace R. niveus Wall. because R. lasiocarpus Sm. is correctly R. niveus Thunb. It seems R. hypagyrus has several varieties (like R. niveus Wall in FBI). Would be interesting to know which variety this one is. Similar plant growing in Manali, Nainital, Kashmir is evidently different with larger leaflets (terminal often reaching 6-8 cm)  and whtish to light pink flowers whereas
R. viveus var. hypagyrus (according to FBI) has 1.5-2.5 cm cm long leaflets.


-It is all the more so for me, since i came to California I found a Rubus sp. commonly known here as Himalayan blackberry, and is believed the seeds where brought here in about 1885 and had been identified as R. procerus Muller (is a distinct species now correctly known as R. praecox Bertol a European species) or R. discolor (a synonym of R. ulmifolius) but it is now known that this Himalayan Blackberry is correctly known as R. armeniacus.
http://www.ou.edu/cas/botany-micro/ben/ben230.html
I have two distinct species with me to account for, one clearly R. ulmofolius with pruinose stem, thicker leaves (R. discolor in FBI) and one similar to R. armeniacus found as I wrote earlier in Manali, Nainital and Kashmir. with leaves larger than plant uploaded by .. and with much lighter coloured flowers. Two species to sort amongst the following: R. ulmifolius (almost settled as plant is distinct), R. hypagyrus, R. mesogaeus, R. praecox and R. armeniacus. Perhaps if I find a key to these taxa it may help. Hortus Third, which I initially thought would be useful is no help. It just gives a few characters but no key.

-I could hardly find any inf. on net about Rubus hypargyrus except this with links to upper & lower side of a leaf: http://bioweb.wku.edu/rubus/Rubus_species_reply.asp?ID=262
–  Can this be Rubus hypargyrus?


– it could be. According to GRIN R. hypagyrus should replace R. niveus Wall. because R. lasiocarpus Sm. is correctly R. niveus Thunb. It seems R. hypagyrus has several varieties (like R. niveus Wall in FBI). Would be interesting to know which variety this one is. Similar plant growing in Manali, Nainital, Kashmir is evidently different with larger leaflets (terminal often reaching 6-8 cm)  and whtish to light pink flowers whereas
R. viveus var. hypagyrus (according to FBI) has 1.5-2.5 cm cm long leaflets.


-It is all the more so for me, since i came to California I found a Rubus sp. commonly known here as Himalayan blackberry, and is believed the seeds where brought here in about 1885 and had been identified as R. procerus Muller (is a distinct species now correctly known as R. praecox Bertol a European species) or R. discolor (a synonym of R. ulmifolius) but it is now known that this Himalayan Blackberry is correctly known as R. armeniacus.
http://www.ou.edu/cas/botany-micro/ben/ben230.html
I have two distinct species with me to account for, one clearly R. ulmofolius with pruinose stem, thicker leaves (R. discolor in FBI) and one similar to R. armeniacus found as I wrote earlier in Manali, Nainital and Kashmir. with leaves larger than plant uploaded by .. and with much lighter coloured flowers. Two species to sort amongst the following: R. ulmifolius (almost settled as plant is distinct), R. hypagyrus, R. mesogaeus, R. praecox and R. armeniacus. Perhaps if I find a key to these taxa it may help. Hortus Third, which I initially thought would be useful is no help. It just gives a few characters but no key.

-I could hardly find any inf. on net about Rubus hypargyrus except this with links to upper & lower side of a leaf: http://bioweb.wku.edu/rubus/Rubus_species_reply.asp?ID=262

 

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VoF Week :: Rubus niveus at Valley of Flowers: Rubus niveus Thunb. … (family: Rosaceae)
2 AUG 12
Valley of Flowers … about 11000 – 12000 ft
 

I think we should go with R. pedunculosus, although there is lots of variation in this complex.


Rubus niveus Thunb. as understood now is the plant with 7-9 leaflets described under the name R. lasiocarpus Sm. and the plant described as R. niveus Wall. ex G. Don in FBI with usually 3 leaflets is now mostly known as R. pedunculosus (syn: R. hypagyrus).


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VOF Week: Rubus pedunculosus?? at VOF:  I hope this Shrub is Rubus pedunculosus (Family: Rosaceae)?
Date/Time: 08-08-2012 / 01:30PM
Location: VOF

Habitat: Wild
Plant habit: Shrub


I hope yes. Good set of photographs …


Yes … Nice shots


Yes Rubus pedunculosus


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VOF Week: Rubus for Id from Ghanghariya-G.Ghat Trek: This raspberry was shot from Ghanghriya-Gobind Ghat Trail... the pics are undoubtedly insufficient for final conclusion… still I hope to get some clues….


Getting to see wild raspberry


a raspberry??? or if more ripe ones on the same plant are also bluish/black… a blackberry??


It looks like Rubus


This could be the fruiting of Rubus pedunculosus ??


I think yes …


With three leaflets, it should be Rubus pedunculosus.

 

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SK1360 08 AUG 2018 : 5 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3)- around 800 kb each. 

Location: Nagarkot, Nepal
Altitude : 6000 ft.
Date: 18 July 2018

Habit : Wild    

Which Rubur sp .??


Rubus

Yes Rubus😁


Pl. check.

 

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Rubus for ID :: VOF, Uttarakhand :: Aug 2018 :: ARKOCT-60 : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (4)
Saw this just as we reached VOF on the top, Uttarakhand in Aug 2018.

Requested to please provide ID.


Pl. check species available at 

I think close to images at Rubus pedunculosus D. Don as per comparative images at Rubus


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