Senecio scandens Buch.-Ham. ex D. Don, Prodr. fl. nepal. 178. 1825 (Syn: (=) Senecio wightianus DC. ex Wight);

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24012013 DC01 Asteraceae from Darjeeling Area for ID Please:
Found these flowering Asteraceae Plants near Sukhia Area of Darjeeling, W.B. (Altitude about 7300 Feet).
Date: 30.11.2012
Please ID the Flowering Plant.


Lovely! Looks like a Senecio sp.


Closer to Senecio wightianus (= S. scandens)



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Asteraceae Sp. for ID…en-route Niharni – GHNP- PKA59 : 5 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (3).
Seen this climbing herb on Shakati-Miharni Trek Route at GHNP at an altitude of approx. 2000m.
Date/Time: 02-10-2014 / 09:45AM
Family: Asteraceae

Please check for Senecio wightianus.


It is Senecio scandens


 


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Senecio scandens Buch.-Ham. ex D. Don. : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2)

Sharing some pictures I guess is Senecio scandens Buch.-Ham. ex D. Don. shot at Kakani Nepal on 17 January 2015 at 6000 ft.

Nepali Name: Paheli Laharaa  पहेंली लहरा 


I think seems to match with images at Senecio scandens


Location: Chhaimale, Nepal
Date : 5 April 2014
Altitude : 5200 ft.
Attachments (3)

 


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Senecio scandens Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (6)- around 600 kb each. 
Location : Chandragiri Hills, Kathmandu, Nepal
Elevation : 8200 ft.
Date : 11 December 2018
Habit : Wild

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Senecio wightianus DC. ex Wight SN June 9 : 1 post by 1 author. Attachments (2).
Senecio wightianus DC. ex Wight; Wild climber from Coonor area of Nilgiris, Tamilnadu



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Aster sp for ID- 11022014- PKA- Feb-32 :  5 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (5).

Seen this Shrub in Mullayanagiri region (at the Altitude of approx. 5500 ft).
Family: Asteraceae
Date/Time: 26-01-2014 / 10:00AM

Habitat: Wild


Not Aster … Aster species never have yellow ray florets.


Any chances of Senecio nudicaulis?


Senecio scandens Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don


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On the road between Roing and Mayodia Pass in Upper Dibang Valley, Arunachal Pradesh– 14/10/08; Yellow flowers from Arunachal Pradesh-3 – indiantreepix | Google Groups



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SK1978 06 June 2019 : 4 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (4)- around 800 kb each.

Location: Chandragiri, Kathmandu, Nepal
Altitude: 2369 m.
Date: 27 May 2019
Habit : Wild

Appears to be some Asteraceae (Compositae) member.


Any possibility of Jacobaea sp.??


Can not say.


4 more images.


You have some strange kind of Asteraceae in your collection, Sir ji.

It maybe something similar to those we discussed in your another thread – efi thread.

I will see if I can progress a little more.



One probability Prenanthes brunoniana Wall. ex DC of FoN = Melanoseris brunoniana (Wall. ex DC.) of KEW = GBIF specimen from India – https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1989371574.
Description in FBI attached herewith.
Is there any redirection link of eFI ?
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Actually I have checked all Notoseris, Lactuca, Penanthes, Cicerbita listed in Nepal but does not look like matching with any. The speciality of this sp. is leaves are bunched at stem nodes which I did not find with any of above sp.

Yes, Sir, I understand your concern.

I may have an explanation behind your point, for example, if you see the last picture, I think it’s formation of a new branch with foliage.
It is expected that a stout 6 ft paniculate perennial would form lateral branches and a few leaves expected at the nodes, as illustrated in a Lactuca.
In support of my words, hints can be viewed at herb. –

But, it is quite possible that these are my imaginations, the fact might be that it is some other species. I will see if I can solve your concern.



Please check the attached illustration and the entry from FBI. Your species might be the same one.
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It could be or some subsp.: GBIF specimen


Yes, subspecies it is.


 


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SK1187 09 JUNE 2018 : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3)
Location : Sukhiapokahari, Darjeeling, India
Date : 12 May 2018
Elevation :  6900 ft.
Habit : Wild
Leaf only !

I think Asteraceae. May be from from Cichorieae with genus like Lactuca etc.


If it is Asteraceae, it might be Notoseris khasiana (C.B.Clarke) N.Kilian.


Leaf looks slight different. Some other Notoseris ??


Actually, it is under the genus Prenanthes in Flora of British India, Saroj ji, and presently at least two genera need to be consulted – LactucaNotoseris,  Please check FoC http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=122475, a similar sp. is N. triflora, ut with amplexicauled leaf – http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=121251&flora_id=2.


Checked but still confusing. Plant is scandent nature!


As per Flora of British India, the species is upto 4 ft slender erect herb, with deltoid leaves, having cordate base. But, KEW herbarium doesn’t show cordate base – colplanta.

KEW has some other spp too – POWO.
A paper from … can be consulted – researchgate

It was my guess only, since the probability of asteraceae was raised and the leaves looked deltoid. It is quite possible it may be some other asteraceae.



Sorry, Sir, forgot to attach FBI entry.


Looks according to the keys!


Sir ji, I suggest please keep it that way, for it will have its own room in eFI ! In future if more information can be obtained from other sources, or you happen to find this again and can be identified properly, it will be moved to a more furnished room!


please check probability of another one (6 ft height), (Lactuca graciliflora DC. of FBI)

Perhaps this is your plant- POWO


Yes, May be as per GBIF– specimen and others like one and two.



I have found  the same plant (I guess) in Nepal also ranging from 2200-2700m.
Plant is not erect but scandent (dangler) like earlier. Could you please find out the flowering phenology for this sp. ?
3 very high res. images.

Sir, in all literature, new or old, Lactuca decipiens C.B.Clarke (Melanoseris decipiens (C.B.Clarke) N.Kilian & Ze H.Wang) has been described as an erect herb.

According to Clarke – “Caulis 2-4 pedalis …”, meaning, I think, stem 2-4 feet.

Surprisingly, Flora of British India, Compisitae Indicae, Plants of the Indian Himalayan Region … none describes flowering season. As per one other document the flowering season is July to November, in Kashmir, a time that covers almost all Lactuca / Melanoseris spp.


Pl. also examine the possibility of Lactuca brunoniana (DC.) Wall. ex C.B.Clarke as per images and details herein and as per GBIF specimens- onetwo and three.
However, description here also says it to be erect as per FBI.

I want clarify here that this sp. is scandent or rather hanging from wall type whereas L. bruniniana is a erect shrub !



Senecio scandens 
var. incisus Franch. ??

I tend to agree with you, …, and perhaps you have solved another thread along with this one. But, presently, I cannot remember which one … let me see … I’ll revert back



I attach again the relevant entry of FBI and illustrations referred therein. One illustration with auricle at leaf base and the other without.
Following the KEY in FoC, I think your id is correct.


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References:

GRIN  The Plant List  Annonated checklist of Flowering plants of Nepal  Flora of China 

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