Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii (Royle) Alef. (syn: Cucumis hardwickii Royle; Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii (Royle) Kitam.; Cucumis sativus f. hardwickii (Royle) W.J.de Wilde & Duyfjes; Melo sativus Sager.) as per Catalogue of Life;
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Cucumis spp.(trigonos)–sharing picture: Sharing picture of Cucumis.


It is Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii.


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identification no110411sn1:  Kindly identify, taken at Mulshi,Pune.
date/time:march11
habitat:wild
plant habit:may be a shrub
height:about 3 ft.


The fruit in the first picture belongs to Cucumis (may be C. prophetarum), a climber. The climber in the picture is sporting no leaves as they are fallen. The plants in the other two pictures are different, not belonging to the fruit.


I fully agree with … about the fruit being Cucumis. I had created a lot of confusion with regards to this and … had handled it with a lot of patience. The plants are as suggested by .. are indeed different. Fruit is not from the plant shown in the pictures.


Does not matches with images of Cucumis prophetarum L. 

I am unable to find the id.


I think Cucumis sativus f. hardwickii as per another thread.


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Id please : 9 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (2)- 1 Mb each. 

Identify the plant collected in hassan

Sorry for not attaching id please give information regarding this plants all are different sources from chikmagalur and hassan districts of karnataka


Please check Cucurbitaceae

Pl. check comparative images at

Pl. check

Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii ??


Thanks, …, for the id.

To me also appears close to images at Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii


 


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Cucurbitceae Week- For identification from Chakrata:  This had been photographed from Chakrata in September 2011. This plant looks similar to Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii uploaded by … hope to get the identification..


Yes …, your plant resembles mine.
My belief too: Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii.



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Cucurbitaceae Week: Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii from Mussoorie Chakrata Road near Kalsi: Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii

Was found growing wild along Chakrata road with small fruits. Pl. validate.


As regards the identity, I think this has been concluded…as we have got no comments/doubts from our expert group till now…



Pachmarhi about 3600 feet ft asl
Date / Time: 19 SEP 13 at 07:21 AM Altitude: about 3568 ft asl
Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii (Royle) Alef. … (family: Cucurbitaceae)

I strongly hope I am correct with this cucumis ID; … and all those now familiar with this plant, please validate.


Yes … Recently I photographed several almost ripe fruits about 5-6 cm long from Jim Corbett area, which locals said are very bitter.

I am uploading one.



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Cucumis sativus?—–for sharing and validation : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (3).

Pic of Kakadi, taken at ambyvalley rd., lonavala, pune in oct13.


Affirmative. This is the Wild Cucumber [Cucumis trigonus, now possibly called C.sativus var. hardwickii]. The local name is Karit / Davderi. Please check this link :

Google Groups


Yes Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii, very common wild form in sub Himalayan region in North India.



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Cucumis prophetarum L. SN Sep 50 : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1).

Cucumis prophetarum L., slender wild climber from Sirsi area of Karnataka


Not really

This should be Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii
In C. prophetarum fruit is softly echinate- efi thread

this should be interesting- efi thread



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ANDEC61 Is this a Cucumis sp.? : 8 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (5).

Haven’t seen fruits like this before
Trekking route to Mussoorie
November 2014


This is similar to efi thread under Cucumis melo and similar to some other posts under C. m. ssp. agrestis var. agrestis.


Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii, the progenitor of cultivated cucumber


Mine photographed last year from Jim Corbett

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Yours one is muricated fruit, natural for wild cucumber. We may not have this one in greater Bengal of British raj. … fruit looked somewhat trigonus to me. But, I must be wrong here.
…, Your plant may be the one as … identifies. Attached the relevant lit.

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Cucumis sativus forma hardwickii ?? ATJAN2015/06 : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1)

Is it Cucumis sativus forma hardwickii ??
Place: Hamirpur (H.P.)
Sept-Oct., 2015


Yes …, I had uploaded same from Mussoorie Chakrata Road


Thank you, respected sir. People in Himachal use fruits of this plant for diabetes. But I do not know whether effective or not.

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Diplocyclos palmatus—–for sharing and validation : 6 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (2)

Pics taken at Aambyvalley Rd., Lonavala, Pune in dec.16


It could be Cucumis sativus, not Diplocyclos.


Thanks for correction


I think this will be Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii as per images and details herein.



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Cucurbitaceae Week: Cucumis sativus from Lohari Panipat:


Sorry…… This is Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii. Shot from Chakrata



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Cucurbitaceae Week :: Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii in Vaghbil:   Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii (Royle) Alef.
KOO-koo-mis — from the Greek kykyon, meaning cucumber… Dave’s Botanary
sa-TEE-vus — cultivated… Dave’s Botanary
¿ hard-wik-ee-eye ? — ¿ named for Thomas Hardwicke, English soldier and naturalist ?Wikipedia

Sep 18, 2010 … at Vaghbil, Thane, Maharashtra
commonly known as: bitter cucumber, wild cucumber
Native to : s China, India, Nepal, Myanmar, Thailand
References: discussion at efloraofindiaDNP, Thailand
more views:Sep 18, 2010 … at Vaghbil, Thane, Maharashtra.



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Cucumis callosum syn C. trigonus : 19112012 : RV 1:

Would like to share few pictures of Cucumis callosus syn C. trigonus taken on 15th Nov12……..the pulp has dried up, crumbled, collapsed and has collected at the bottom with the seeds clearly seen. I made a small tear in the dried skin of the fruit to get the picture of the seeds. One can see the black prickles still on the dried skin.

I noticed that during Diwali days till narakchawdes / kaalichawdes, it is sold in the market by vegetable vendors, on inquiring, some people who were buying it, they told me a very interesting ritual connected with this vegetable during Diwali…..in Maharashtra’s Konkan area and specially in Goa, on narakchawdes, the bitter ‘Kaarit’ (Cucumis trigonus) is crushed by each member of the family, under his/her feet to signify the death of the evil. It also indicates that evil ideas should find place near one’s feet and not in his heart. Same ritual is practiced in many homes in Bombay too during Diwali.


…, are you sure of the id Cucumis trigonus?

As the fruits are spinous, I think it should be Cucumis prophetarum. (Ref.: Flora of Pres. Madras; FoC). Pl correct me if I am wrong.
Nice pictures and useful info, though.


I think it is the same plant that was uploaded by … and went through the same discussion involving as many as 26 mails. I think the conclusion should apply here also,

Cucumis prophetarum is a very distinct species with strongly echinate fruits, not found here.
Cucumis sativus and C. melo, although with similar looking flowers are easily differentiated on atleast three counts, although both have number varieties/cultivars: in Cucumis sativus the leaves are sharply angular (more or less rounded in C. melo), flowers centre is yellow (pale in C. melo) and very important ovary and young fruits bear tubercles (which may stay in shorter light green dry gardening forms and fall off in dark green longer forms cultivated larger in wetter habitats: these two forms we have in Kashmir former known as Baghi (Garden) kheera and latter Dal kheera (like English cucumber and grown on floating gardens of Dal Lake)). In C. melo on the other hand tubercles ae lacking and ovary and young fruits are covered with hairs which shed off easily.
Cucumis trigonous as mentioned in Flora of British India has “ovary hairy sometimes densely white wooly or silky……..distinguished from C. melo only by perennial habit”….no doubt in recent treatments it is either merged totally in C. melo or considered as its variety. Obviously our plant is not this.

The above plant as such is nothing but a form of Cucumis sativus.


Thanks … for correcting me once again.


I think this will be Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii as per images and details herein.



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Plz id this cucumber: pa55 – 13dec2012: Plz id this cucumber also from Mankhurd region. There was dense growth over there so I am confused if the leafs in the last photo are of this plant only. Plz confirm. Tks.


This is the Wild Cucumber [Cucumis trigonus, now possibly called C.sativus var. hardwickii]. The local name is Karit / Davderi.

The leaves featured in Photograph 3 do not belong to this plant.



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Flora of Kaiga_ID_Plz_14072011 PJ2: Flora of Kaiga_ID_Plz_14072011 PJ2
Date/Time-: 12/05/11 – 10:40
Location- Place, Altitude – Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,Karnataka, 380 mtrs
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- wild
Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Climber
Height/Length- 4m

Cucumis prophetarum, perhaps.


I too think that this is Cucumis prophetarum.
If we get a picture of leaves/branch with leaves, it would be easy to confirm.


It should be C. sativus var. hardwickii as per another thread.


Id may be reviewed pl. in the light of this new thread



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Flora of Chakrata: Cucumis sativus from Chakrata Mussorie Road:  Mussorie Moor marg
It has written as conspecific to C hardwickii Royle in Flora of mussoories


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cucumis species mm1 09102011: cucumis species 

is it cucumis melo ?
flowers were about 15 mm
the locals call it jangli watermelon


Yes Sir C sativus


I think this will be Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii as per images and details herein.



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Re: Another Cucurbitaceae : 3 posts by 2 authors. 5 images.
Location Wayanad Kerala
Please identify

Thanks, …  Pl. check comparative images at family page efi site at Cucurbitaceae


Pl. check with images at Cucumis sativus L.


I think this will be Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii as per images and details herein.



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ANSEPT64 Cucurbitaceae for ID : 7 posts by 5 authors. Attachments (2).

Chikamagalur-Kemmangudi Road
13th September 2014


Perhaps it is Cucumis sativus


Angular leaves suggest possibility of C. sativus L., so I copy …, perhaps it is …. but in wild? Was there any residence or market nearby?

How big is the flower? C. s. var hardwickii?


This plant was growing atleast 10 km away from the nearest town, right in the middle of the western ghats.

I have seen Cucumis sativus flowers in Bangalore and this one was definitely bigger in size although I dont have an exact measurement..


Clearly Cucumis sativus. I have seen flowers about 10-15 mm in Delhi, but up to 20 mm across in Kashmir and California, in colder climates.


My record is 2 cm across and I have found an article stating var. hardwickii is of same size.


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Cucurbitaceae Week: For id from Morni Hills: This was shot from Morni Hills, Haryana in October 2010, I could never get its growing plant or flowers, though have seen this on many occasions there…..I hope to get hints for its identification.
This last photo gives you an idea of the fruit size…

The angular leaves and fruit size suggests Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii, but not very sure.


… me too eager to know the ID.
The first view is a typical sight on outskirts of villages and cities.


Please also check it for Cucumis prophetarum.


Fruit Softly echinate- Cucumis prophetarum

Fruits not echinate
1. Perennial – C.callosus

2. Annual- C.melo


Does not matches with images of Cucumis prophetarum L. 

I am unable to find the id.


I think Cucumis sativus f. hardwickii as per another thread.


It is Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii only.
Know Your Cucurbits by Dr. Gurcharan Singh sir is best book on Cucurbits. I have sent its photographs to Prof. Susan Tenner also.
It is a medicinal plant with very bitter fruits. Even diabetic people use its fruits.


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Fruit for Id -ID23022021SH1
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Fruit for Id pl.
Location – Taljai Hills,Pune
Date – February 2021

Looks like Cucumis species.


Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii (Royle) Kitam.  ??


 


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References: Catalogue of Life   NPGS  

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