Himalaiella deltoidea (DC.) Raab-Straube, 391 2003. (syn: Himalaiella deltoidea (Wall. ex DC.) Raab-Straube; Cnicus deltoideus Wall. ex DC.; Frolovia formosana (Hayata) Lipsch.; Saussurea deltoidea (Wall. ex DC.) Sch. Bip.; Saussurea formosana Hayata; Saussurea kouytcheensis H. Lév.; Saussurea lamprocarpa Hemsl. ex Forb. & Hemsl.; Saussurea radiata Franch.; Synurus taiwanianus S.S. Ying; Theodorea deltodes (Wall. ex DC.) Kuntze; Theodorea lamprocarpa (Hemsl.) Kuntze);
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Himalaiella deltoidea (DC.) Raab-Straube : 6 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3) – 2 mb each.
Location : Chandragiri Hills, Kathmandu, Nepal
Elevation : 2396 m.
Date : 12 December 201
Habit : Wild
Syn : Saussurea deltoidea (DC.) Sch.Bip.
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SK122OCT03-2016:ID : 13 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (5)
Sharing some pictures for ID shot at Chandragiri Hill Kathmandu on 19 September 2016 at 8200 ft.
Interesting, never seen…hope the id is concluded !!
Looks like some species of Saussurea (Asteraceae). Flower heads are young.
Nothing comes to mind. Best to wait and see what flower-heads look like when open.
Plants are not always conveniently in flower (or fruit) when we come across them. However, it is worthwhile including images of each species at different stages of development within the reference photos for that species – though one needs to be familiar with the plant first.
It is seldom worthwhile collecting pressed specimens of a plant not in flower or fruit to take to a herbarium for identification – most will be rejected. Hard enough and at times uncertain enough when flowers or fruit are present.
My first job as a field botanist in the UK was as team-leader of a survey of riverside vegetation in Wales. Our objective was to attempt to record every flowering plant (and sometimes bryophytes) along 500m stretches of riverbank. It was hardest in the spring when most plants had not reached flowering stage. Fewer clues available than when a plant is in flower or fruit – although for the UK there is now ‘The Vegetative Key to the British Flora’ – which I have not been able to get into using much yet.
It is going to be an awfully long time before the flora of Nepal or the Himalaya as a whole will be known sufficiently well for a comparable guide for identifying plants based upon leaf characteristics to be prepared!
Since it is not yet in a flowering stage leaves look like Himalaiella deltoidea (DC.) Raab-Straube (provisionally accepted name) syn: Saussurea deltoidea (DC.) Sch.Bip. (ambiguous synonym).
Request for validation please.
Thanks, … But does not match with images of Saussurea deltoidea at
Saussurea candolleana Wall. ex DC. (accepted name) ???
Does not matches with images at Saussurea candolleana
May be some other genera.
It has become very difficult to identify this plant !
Enclosing Nepal list if it could do some help for ID.
Enclosing some images from the book Flora of Kathmandu Valley, Stainton and some links for validation.
Flora of Kathmandu Valley listed only one Saussurea deltoidea (DC.) Sch.Bip. around Kathmandu valley but the Plant List says Himalaiella deltoidea (DC.) Raab-Straub is the accepted name.
Somehow, not getting convinced.
Himalaiella deltoidea (DC.) Raab-Straube : 7 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1) – 5 mb.
Location: Chisapani, Kathmandu
Date: 01 October 2019
Elevation: 2176 m.
Habit : Wild
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Looks good. Thank you …
Himalaiella deltoidea (DC.) Raab-Straube : 8 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2) – 2 & 4 mb.
Location: Phulchoki, Lalitpur
Date: 16 September 2019
Elevation: 2409 m.
Habit : Wild
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Looks different from images at Himalaiella deltoidea
Appears similar to your images at Saussurea species ?- Chandragiri Hill, Kathmandu, Nepal
Himalaiella deltoidea (DC.) Raab-Straube : 10 posts by 1 author. 10 images- 5 to 7 mb each.
Location: Kathmandu Valley
Date: October 2020
Habit : Wild
Syn : Saussurea deltoidea (DC.) Sch. Bip.