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Krym to SW. Siberia and W. & N. China: Afghanistan, Altay, China North-Central, Inner Mongolia, Kazakhstan, Krasnoyarsk, Krym, Mongolia, North Caucasus, Pakistan, Qinghai, South European Russi, Tadzhikistan, Tibet, Uzbekistan, West Himalaya, Xinjiang as per POWO;
E-European Russia, Northern Caucasus, Georgia [Caucasus], Azerbaijan, Armenia, Siberia (W-Siberia, C-Siberia), Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Pakistan (Kurram, Chitral, Swat), Pakistani Kashmir (Gilgit, Astor, Baltistan), Afghanistan (Wakhan, Bamyan, Wardak, Parwan), Mongolia, Jammu & Kashmir (Ladakh, Leh, Kashmir), India (Himachal Pradesh, Garhwal), China (NW-Gansu, Hebei, Nei Mongol, NW-Ningxia, Qinghai, Shaanxi, Shanxi, Xinjiang), Tibet as per Catalogue of Life;
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Common name: Kashmir False Tamarisk
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040722 JM 3: 6 images.
On way from Nubra to Pangong, in Syok valley near Syok river on 17.6.22 in Ladakh.
Myrtama elegans (Royle) Ovcz. & Kinzik. ??
I feel it is more likely to be Myricaria squamosa Desv. rather than Myrtama elegans (Royle) Ovcz. & Kinzikaeva, as per images and details herein.
Posting more images from the same place.
10 images.
On further scrutiny, I think it is Myricaria bracteata Royle rather than Myricaria squamosa Desv., as per details herein and as per FoC illustration and as per keys in Flora of Pakistan.
6 very high res. images.
Also attaching more images.
6 images.
Also attaching more high res. close up details images, one by one.
7 very high res. images.
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Myricaria elegans Royle var. elegans from Kashmir:
Myricaria elegans Royle, Ill. Bot. Himal. Mts. 214. 1839. var. elegans
Photographed from Pahalgam, Kashmir
May I request you to pl. confirm this as Myricaria bracteata or otherwise pl.
Yes, this is Myricaria bracteata (the name Myricaria germanica is preferred, I think).
That is the real confusion. If this is M. bracteata (syn: M. germanica var. alopecuroides), then what is the plant which I have now uploaded as M. bracteata and original image of Royle and one which I have shared from BSI Flora of India.
They are all the same, as per my thinking.
Myricaria bracteata Royle from Kashmir for validation-GS31102020-2 : 5 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3)
https://www.gbif.org/species/3612947
Key in eFlora of Pakistan
Original illustration of Royle
Right one, left is Lythrum
http://www.plantillustrations.org/size=0&uhd=0
Illustration of Myricaria bracteata (syn: M. germanica var. alopecuroides) from Flora of India page 14:
Today morning I wrote this mail to … for his opinion. I find that we have not been able to sort out our images of Myricaria and Tamarix connvinsibly.
If my images from Pahalgam really belong to M. bracteata, what should be status of images under M. germanica in Flowers of India.
Thanks for bringing this up – always nice to recheck identifications. Your “Myricaria elegans” from Pahalgam should be something else, and not Myricaria elegans, in my opinion. In Myricaria elegans flowers petals are 5-6 mm long, whereas sepals are very small in comparison, only 1-2 mm long. In the flowers in your pictures, the sepals look almost comparable to the petals in length. I am attaching a closeup of the flowers of the plant which is on FOI as Myricaria elegans.
Also attaching closeup of flowers of Myricaria bracteata on FOI. Notice the sepals – seems to agree well with the drawing you attached. Would have liked to compare the stamens, but the flowers are not fully open.
Can’t comment on other things as yet.
| Myrtama elegans from Flora of Ladakh
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| Myricaria bracteata from Flora of Ladakh
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Enclosing images of 2 sp from Flora of Ladakh for ref:
After going through all the discussions and attachments here as well as from eFloras, I feel your plant from ‘Myricaria elegans from Pahalgam’ may be Myricaria bracteata only. Flora of China says ‘Sepals lanceolate, oblong, or narrowly elliptic, ca. 4 × 1-2 mm, margin broadly membranous, apex obtuse or acute, often incurved’. On close scrutiny of your sepals, these may be something like 4 mm by 1 mm. You may check these again with original enlarged images.
Thanks a lot … for your valuable comments.
Hope things are resolved soon.
Your plant from ‘Myricaria elegans from Pahalgam’ is confirmed as Myricaria bracteata by Miroslav ji in another thread: Myricaria elegans Royle var. elegans from Kashmir
That is the real confusion. If this is M. bracteata (syn: M. germanica var. alopecuroides), then what is the plant which I have now uploaded as M. bracteata and original image of Royle and one which I have shared from BSI Flora of India.
They are all the same, as per my thinking.
I have stated that much before Miroslav ji’s reply.
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