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Carduus edelbergii Rech.f., 1955. (Syn: Carduus lucidus Wall. nom. nud.; Carduus edelbergii Rech.f. subsp. lanatus; Carduus nutans (auct. non L.) Hook. f.) as per efi thread;
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Asteraceae Fortnight Part 2-Discoid heads – Cirsium verutum (NSJ-09): Attachments (3). 2 posts by 2 authors. Carduus onopordioides I hope C. edelbergii as per another thread. Yes … . Caucasian Cotton Thistle from Srinagar (12/06/11-NSJ 01): Yes, Carduus onopordioides C. edelbergii as per another thread. Yes …
Asteraceae Week (Part II – Discoid heads) :: Thistle from Hunder Sand Dunes Ladakh :: PKA13: : : Attachments (5). 3 posts by 3 authors. Seen this Thistle (Asteraceae) plant at the Sand dunes at Hunder, Nubra Valley, Ladakh. To me this looks like Cirisium arvense… this comes as a surprise to know its very wide range of distribution … Neither leaves nor long spines on involucre bracts suggest Cirsium arvense C. edelbergii as per another thread. . Asteraceae Fortnight Part 2-Discoid heads: Carduus in Kashmir….onopordioides…….edelbergii…….pycnocephalus-GS2 : Attachments (9). I have seen three distinct populations this year:
one with larger heads 4-6 cm across, nearly globose with broader involucre bracts more or less spreading and heads purple to white, the leaves more spiny and not flattened;
the second similar to first one but less spiny, heads oblong, barely 15-20 mm broad, 3-4 cm long, involucre bracts less spreading, leaves similar but smaller and less spiny;
third seen mostly in Dachhigam has smaller heads, although more globose in shape like first one, in shape less than 2.5 cm across and with more or less erect involucre bracts, leaves are less spiny and more or less flattened. heads are mostly purple. the latter fits with C. pycnocephalus but heads are solitary, not clustered as typical for this species.
I am sending all three for your strict scrutiny and sort their identity, particularly whether globular one is edelbergii or ononopordioides (Stewart was unsure whether two are synonyms or not; now treated distinct species. The genus is profusely flowering these days. Perhaps you can scrutinise them further. C. edelbergii as per another thread.
Thistle for ID-021011-PKA3: I hope Carduus edelbergii Yes, same area. Do you have leaf shape pictures and vein patterns? and basal cluster…? I am surprised, this one remarkably resembles Cirisium arvense but for being more prickly at the leaf margins.         Asteraceae Fortnight Part 2-Discoid Heads: Carduus nutans from Chakrata – NS 08 : Attachments (8). 4 posts by 2 authors.
This beautiful thistle was found growing on a hill top in Chakrata area, Budher caves road… I hope this should be Carduus nutans L…. please validate/correct.. Carduus nutans does not grow in India. It could be C. onopordioides or edelbergii. I have still find differences between these two. Thanks Sir for the input.. actually I was guided by this… Yes … Please have a relook in light of recent discussions… Yes after Flora of India publication it should be C. edelbergii Thanks Sir…
Carduus in Kashmir….onopordioides…….edelbergii…….pycnocephalus: I have seen three distinct populations this year:
one with larger heads 4-6 cm across, nearly globose with broader involucre bracts more or less spreading and heads purple to white, the leaves more spiny and not flattened;
the second similar to first one but less spiny, heads oblong, barely 15-20 mm broad, 3-4 cm long, involucre bracts less spreading, leaves similar but smaller and less spiny;
third seen mostly in Dachhigam has smaller heads, although more globose in shape like first one, in shape less than 2.5 cm across and with more or less erect involucre bracts, leaves are less spiny and more or less flattened. heads are mostly purple. the latter fits with C. pycnocephalus but heads are solitary, not clustered as typical for this species.
I am sending all three for your strict scrutiny and sorty their identity, particularly whether globular one is edelbergii or ononopordioides (Stewart was unsure whether two are synonyms or not; now treated distinct species. The genus is profusely flowering these days. Perhaps you can scrutinise them further.
C. edelbergii as per another thread.
Thistle Species : Kashmir : 040518 : AK-6 : 4 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2) Missed posting earlier.
To me, it looks close to … pictures of Carduus edelbergii on FOI.
Thistle For ID : Srinagar : 20JUN16 : AK-34 : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1) Pl. post full plant also. This seem to be the only picture I have. Let me search further. I hope Carduus edelbergii    
Indian species as we know now is not C. nutans L., earlier it was named as C. onopordioides (Flora Afghanistan), but now it is identified as C. edelbergii .
Closeups are required.. If u have flower pics it would be easy to identify Carduus edelbergii I hope Unfortunately, I have only one picture.
Probably that’s the reason not posted earlier. . SK 3066 21 October 2021: 6 very high res. images.
Location: Jumla, Nepal Altitude: 3118m. Date: 18 August 2021 Habit : Wild Carduus edelbergii Rech. fil. ?? Yes, appears close to images at Carduus edelbergii Rech.f. .
Location: Mugu, Nepal
Altitude: 2753m.
Date: 22 August 2021
Habit : Wild Check with Carduus sp. Aster Sorry, I didn’t observe that it is already identified . J&K, Pampur, April 2023 :: Carduus (?) for ID :: ARK2023-024: 3 high res. images. These flowers were seen growing wild in the saffron fields at Pampur, J&K in April 2023.
Guessing them to be Carduus edelbergii based on eFI and FoI pics.
Requested to please ID.
Yes Yes C.elderbergii / References:
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