Zehneria bodinieri (H. Léveillé) W. J. de Wilde & Duyfjes, Thai Forest Bull., Bot. 32: 17. 2004. (Syn: Melothria bodinieri H. Léveillé, Fl. Kouy-Tchéou, 122. 1914-1915; M. perpusilla Cogniaux var. subtruncata Cogniaux; Pilogyne bodinieri (H. Léveillé) W. J. de Wilde & Duyfjes.);
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Distribution in India: Karnataka, Kerala, Tamil Nadu, also North India; Distribution outside India: China, Myanmar, Sri Lanka, Sumatra, Malaysia, Sabah also Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Peninsular Malaysia, Philippines (Palawan) as per The Cucurbitaceae of India: Accepted names, synonyms, geographic distribution, and information on images and DNA sequences by Susanne S. Renner, Arun K. Pandey. (2013);
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As per efi thread:
W.J.J.O. DE WILDE & B.E.E. DUYFJES in THAI FOR. BULL. (BOT.) 32: 15–31. 2004 write:
1. Zehneria maysorensis (Wight & Arn.) Arn. Type: S India, Wallich 6702 A–D, Wight 1116.— Zehneria maysorensis (Wight & Arn.) Arn. var. oblonga V. P. Prasad & M. Prasad, J. Econ. Taxon. Bot. 17 (2): 471. 1993. Type: S India, Vivekananthan 45710 (MH, not seen).— Monoecious or dioecious. Ovary and fruit ellipsoid, longer than broad. Distribution: confined to southern peninsular India, at low altitudes. 2. Zehneria bodinieri (Lévl.) W. J. de Wilde & Duyfjes. Lecotype: China, Bodinier 1957 (E).— Monoecious. Ovary and fruit globose. Distribution: widespread, in Sri Lanka and southern peninsular India, and from N India to S China, Indochina and Malesia, at low and medium altitudes. 3. Zehneria hookeriana (Wight & Arn.) Arn. Type: S India, Wight 1117.—Monoecious. Ovary and fruit globose. Distribution: endemic to southern India, in montane area. .
As per efi thread:
Zehneria hookeriana (Wight& Arn.) Arn. differs from its allied species, Z. bodinieri, by having longer fruiting pedicel and peduncle; and fruit mostly several on common peduncle. This is endemic to Tamil Nadu and occurs in the high altitudes.
References: De Wilde WJJO, Duyfjes BEE (2004). Zehneria (Cucurbitaceae) in Thailand, with a note on the Indian Zehneria maysorensis. Thai Forest Bulletin, Botany 32: 15–31. De Wilde WJJO, Duyfjes BEE (2006). Redefinition of Zehneria and four new related genera (Cucurbitaceae), with an enumeration of the Australasian and Pacific species. Blumea 51: 1–88. doi: 10.3767/000651906X622346 Renner SS, Pandey AK (2013). The Cucurbitaceae of India: Accepted names, synonyms, geographic distribution, and information on images and DNA sequences. PhytoKeys 20: 53–118. . Kas Week :: DV :: 28 SEP 08 – 0232 :: Zehneria scabra:
Kas plateau … about 4000 ft asl … one of the 39 World Heritage sites in the Western Ghats of India 28 SEP 08
Zehneria scabra Sond. … (family: Cucurbitaceae) zy-NER-ee-uh — named in memory of Joseph Zehner, botanical artist of Vienna
SKAY-bruh or SKAB-ruh — rough … Dave’s Botanary commonly known as: Cape zehneria, South African zehneria, wild cucumber • Hindi: मुसमुसा musmusa • Marathi: चिरटी chirati • Manipuri: লম থবী lam thabi • Tamil: naai pagal • Telugu: కూతురుబుడమ kuturu-budama • Urdu: مسمسا musmusa Distribution: tropical and south Africa, west Asia, Indian peninsula, Malesia References: Flowers of India • Further Flowers of Sahyadri by Shrikant Ingalhalikar googling shows nice caudiforms… may make interesting bonsai.. This could be Zehneria bodinieri (Lévl.) W.J. de Wilde & Duyfjes
Key features: Male inflorescences a peduncled raceme; male raceme short, flowering part up to 1 cm long; pedicel of female flower 3–10 mm long. Fruit ca. 1 cm diam.
Reference:
De Wilde WJJO, Duyfjes BEE (2004b) Zehneria (Cucurbitaceae) in Thailand, with a note on the Indian Zehneria maysorensis. Thai Forest Bulletin, Botany 32: 15–31. Thanks … I am happy that I raised the issue and it seems to be getting resolved on the lines on which I expected Kas week :: PKA21:: — Zehneria scabra: This may be Zehneria bodinieri (Lévl.) W. J. de Wilde & Duyfjes if it has the following key features…
Key features: Male inflorescences a peduncled raceme; male raceme short, flowering part up to 1 cm long; pedicel of female flower 3–10 mm long. Fruit ca. 1 cm diam. Thanks … We seem to have located Z. maysoriensis and Z. bodinieri. Agumbe :: Zehneria FOR ID :: DVJAN66 : 4 posts by 3 authors. 6 images. Date: 26 DEC 2014 … Altitude: about 700 m asl
Referring to … post – Status of Zehneria scabra in India, and going through various Zehneria posts in the eFI database …Zehneria bodinieri (H.Lév.) W.J.de Wilde & Duyfjes is the most probable ID of my plant. Not confident.
My posted plant is closest to that in … post – Id of the climber please? 30 september 2010, and its duplicate – Botanical name of the climber please 1 October 2010. In this post, the flower is about 4 mm across; the fruit is spherical, about 10 – 12 mm dia. Zehneria ¿ maysorensis / bodinieri / else ? … (family: Vitaceae) efi page on Zehneria bodinieri I had a relook at all the posts in efi site on Zehneria and added keys herein. Cucurbitaceae Week :: Zehneria scabra at Kas:
Sharing few photographs of Zehneria scabra. Location: Kas, Maharashtra Key features: Male inflorescences a peduncled raceme; male raceme short, flowering part up to 1 cm long; pedicel of female flower 3–10 mm long. Fruit ca. 1 cm diam.
Reference:
De Wilde WJJO, Duyfjes BEE (2004b) Zehneria (Cucurbitaceae) in Thailand, with a note on the Indian Zehneria maysorensis. Thai Forest Bulletin, Botany 32: 15–31.” KAS Week DS_061012_05 Id requested: Just now I was viewing the other postings from Kas and thanks …- from his posting of today I realise the attached pic should be of Zehneria scabra. Zehneria bodinieri (H.Lév.) W.J.de Wilde & Duyfjes can anyone Id this climber
pic taken : Oct. 2012
Sindhdudurg MH …, i have collected this species from 4000 ft msl (Mahendragiri, South Odisha). It appears zehneria sp. Please check Z. scabra and Z.mysorensis Feedback from another thread: I have been somewhat confused about the status of Zehneria scabra, uploaded by several members including …, … and other members from Kas
These confusions are often confounded by the absence of author citations. Strange as it may look Zehneria scabra (L.f.) Sond (Swedeish name flikig pilreva), and Melothria scabra Naudin (Swedish name djungelgurka), are two distinct species, often confused on net, as Melothria is an important species with good looking mini watermelon like fruits, and none look similar to our Kas plants. and as such names Cape zehneria, South African Zehneria won’t apply to our Kas plant.
My doubts are supported by recent nomenclature update by Renner and Pandey in 2013
They do not list Zehneria scabra for India, and Melothria perpusilla (Blume) Cogn. is cited as synonym of Zehneria perpusilla (Bl.) Bole and Almeida…….but as per citation this species does not grown in India. The other name often cited as synonym of Melothria perpusilla is correctly Zehneria hookeriana (Wight & Arn) Arn, is endemic to Tamil Nadu
This leaves third name Zehneria maysorensis (Wight & Arn.) Arn. found in Tamil Nadu, Karnataka and Maharashtra.
Could it be our plant from Kas??? Flora of Eastern Ghats: Hill Ranges of South East India, Volume 3 By Thamminen Pullaiah, K. Sri Ramamurthy (description & Keys- maysorensis & scabra- 2007) (Zehneria maysorensis (Wight & Arn.) Arn.- Syn: Bryonia mysorensis Wight & Arn.; Melothria perpusilla var. subtruncata Cogn.; Melothria perpusilla auct. non. (Bl.) Cogn) (Zehneria scabra (L.f.) Sond.- Syn: Bryonia scabra L.f., Zehneria hookeriana Arn, & Melothria perpusilla sensu Chakravarthy) I agree with …. But, as per the the following reference, it may be called Zehneria bodinieri (H.Lév.)W.J.de Wilde & Duyfjes Id of the climber please? 30 september 2010. : Attachments (3). 8 posts by 5 authors.
could someone identify the climber please? Looks like some Zehneria sp. from Cucurbitaceae.
Most probably Zehneria scabra (Linn. f.) Sond. Carl Linnaeus (1707-1778) is abbreviated as L. and not Linn.. Identified as Zehneria maysorensis. by … in another thread I had a relook at all the posts in efi site on Zehneria and added keys herein.
It should be Zehneria bodinieri (H. Léveillé) W. J. de Wilde & Duyfjes based on keys at Zehneria ANDEC04 Cucurbitaceae for identification : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (5) Nelliyampathy, Kerala This could be Zehneria maysorensis (Wight & Arn.) Arn. Agree with … Zehneria maysorensis (Wight & Arn.) Arn. I had a relook at all the posts in efi site on Zehneria and added keys herein.
It should be Zehneria bodinieri (H. Léveillé) W. J. de Wilde & Duyfjes based on keys at Zehneria Zehneria scabra : Cucurbitaceae : For Validation : Mahabaleshwar : 02AUG15 : AK-2 : 02/02 : 8 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (3) Zehneria species so far in efi. Plant is Zehneria scabra Sond.; Tendrils are simple, leaves deltoid, three angled, margins distantly toothed. This could be Zehneria maysorensis. Thanks for correction. Zehneria scabra has been badly confused in India: please see older post and the relevant conclusion: I take my post as Zehneria maysorensis as suggested by … and differences explained by you Sir? NATIVE :: Cucurbitaceae (pumpkin, or gourd family) » Zehneria scabra : Attachments (2). 5 posts by 3 authors. Zehneria scabra (syn. Bryonia scabra, Melothria perpusilla, Melothria punctata)
zy-NER-ee-uh — named in memory of Joseph Zehner, botanical artist of Vienna SKAB-ruh — meaning, rough
commonly known as: Cape zehneria, South African zehneria, wild cucumber • Hindi: मुसमुसा musmusa • Marathi: चिरटी chirati • Manipuri: লম থবী lam thabi • Tamil: naai pagal • Telugu: కూతురుబుడమ kuturu-budama • Urdu: مسمسا musmusa Attached views from Kas plateau, and Kate’s Point (Panchagani) … more views at http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=91314344%40N00&q=Zehneriascabra&m=tags If my understanding is correct, then the first picture is of Zehneria maysorensis (Wight& Arn.) Arn. and the second one could be of Zehneria bodinieri (H.Lév.)W.J.de Wilde & Duyfjes. Pl refer to the following paper.
Reference: De Wilde WJJO, Duyfjes BEE (2004). Zehneria (Cucurbitaceae) in Thailand, with a note on the Indian Zehneria maysorensis. Thai Forest Bulletin, Botany 32: 15–31. Thanks … You seem to have made my contention in the below thread more stronger Yes, …, thanks again for sensing this important issue and calling for a revisit of Zehneria. This will enable us to update the nomenclature in our database. I had a relook at all the posts in efi site on Zehneria and added keys herein.
Both images should be of Zehneria bodinieri (H. Léveillé) W. J. de Wilde & Duyfjes based on keys at Zehneria Both images should be of Zehneria bodinieri (H. Léveillé) W. J. de Wilde & Duyfjes based on keys at Zehneria
Initially ovary looks a bit ellipsoidal, but finally fruits are globose. Pl. see the last image by enlarging at Cucurbitaceae Week :: Zehneria scabra at Kas and Mahabaleshwar Cucurbitaceae Week :: Zehneria scabra at Kas and Mahabaleshwar:
Zehneria scabra Sond. zy-NER-ee-uh — named in memory of Joseph Zehner, botanical artist of Vienna
SKAY-bruh or SKAB-ruh — rough … Dave’s Botanary Sep 28, 2008 … on Kas plateau, Maharashtra
commonly known as: Cape zehneria, South African zehneria, wild cucumber • Hindi: मुसमुसा musmusa • Marathi: चिरटी chirati • Manipuri: লম থবী lam thabi • Tamil: naai pagal • Telugu: కూతురుబుడమ kuturu-budama • Urdu: مسمسا musmusa Distribution: tropical and south Africa, west Asia, Indian peninsula, Malesia References: Flowers of India • M.M.P.N.D. • Further Flowers of Sahyadri by Shrikant Ingalhalikar more views: Sep 28, 2008 … on Kas plateau, Maharashtra Aug 26, 2010 … at Kate’s Point, Mahabaleshwar, Maharashtra
Aug 26, 2010 … at Arthur’s Seat, Mahabaleshwar, Maharashtra
The correct link is: http://www.flowersofindia.Cape%20Zehneria.html These are from a place which I think every nature lover must visit, I am still to go, hope my dream comes true this year… Feedback from another thread: “I have been somewhat confused about the status of Zehneria scabra, uploaded by several members including …, and other members from Kas
These confusions are often confounded by the absence of author citations. Strange as it may look Zehneria scabra (L.f.) Sond (Swedeish name flikig pilreva), and Melothria scabra Naudin (Swedish name djungelgurka), are two distinct species, often confused on net, as Melothria is an important species with good looking mini watermelon like fruits, and none look similar to our Kas plants.
and as such names Cape zehneria, South African Zehneria won’t apply to our Kas plant.
My doubts are supported by recent nomenclature update by Renner and Pandey in 2013
They do not list Zehneria scabra for India, and Melothria perpusilla (Blume) Cogn. is cited as synonym of Zehneria perpusilla (Bl.) Bole and Almeida…….but as per citation this species does not grown in India.
The other name often cited as synonym of Melothria perpusilla is correctly Zehneria hookeriana (Wight & Arn) Arn, is endemic to Tamil Nadu
This leaves third name Zehneria maysorensis (Wight & Arn.) Arn. found in Tamil Nadu, Karnataka and Maharashtra.
Could it be our plant from Kas??? The Following may be of help: Many thanks … for updating this thread with the ongoing discussion of Zehneria – Melothria. Please take a look at the types. The most recent treatment (de Wilde and Duyfjes, 2006, cited in full below) does not consider M. perpusilla var. subtruncata a synonym of Z. maysorensis, but I am unsure why.
The syntypes of Melothria perpusilla (Blume) Cogn. var. subtruncata Cogn. are:
India, Wight 1151 (CAL image attached; K, LE, W), Sri Lanka, Thwaites 1613 (BR, CAL image attached, G, K, LE, P). ——-
The lectotype of Zehneria maysorensis (Wight & Arn.) Arn. I ……………………..
South India, Wight 1116 (K, P image in the Sonnerat database), designated by de Wilde and Duyfjes (2006).
Kew has two images of Z. maysorensis: http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000313364
De Wilde WJJO, Duyfjes BEE (2006) Redefinition of Zehneria and four new related genera (Cucurbitaceae), with an enumeration of the Australasian and Pacific species. Blumea 51: 1–88. doi: 10.3767/000651906X622346 Thanks, …, Should we finally take this attached plant from Kas as Zehneria maysorensis (Wight & Arn.) Arn. as I am not able to clearly understand the intricacies ? I am afraid I have to refer you to my message of July 4 to which I had provided the links to images of the types of Zehneria maysorensis in Paris and Kew. As per another thread: Thank you very very much … for stitching this thread with the updates. Thanks … for your thoughts. All images should be of Zehneria bodinieri (H. Léveillé) W. J. de Wilde & Duyfjes based on keys at Zehneria
Initially ovary looks a bit ellipsoidal, but finally fruits are globose. Pl. see the last image by enlarging at Cucurbitaceae Week :: Zehneria scabra at Kas and Mahabaleshwar Satara, MH :: Climber for ID :: ARK2020-003 : 7 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (3)- around 950 kb each.
Saw this climber at Kaas in Satara. MH in October 2019.
Similar climbers found at Kas have been labelled Zehneria bodinieri in efi.
Are these Z. bodinieri as well? Requested to please provide feedback.
Please check Zehneria ! Choice is between Zehneria bodinieri and Zehneria maysorensis
We have to clearly find out the difference between the two.
Does any body has clear cut keys ? W.J.J.O. DE WILDE & B.E.E. DUYFJES in THAI FOR. BULL. (BOT.) 32: 15–31. 2004 write:
1. Zehneria maysorensis (Wight & Arn.) Arn. Type: S India, Wallich 6702 A–D, Wight 1116.— Zehneria maysorensis (Wight & Arn.) Arn. var. oblonga V. P. Prasad & M. Prasad, J. Econ. Taxon. Bot. 17 (2): 471. 1993. Type: S India, Vivekananthan 45710 (MH, not seen).— Monoecious or dioecious. Ovary and fruit ellipsoid, longer than broad. Distribution: confined to southern peninsular India, at low altitudes. 2. Zehneria bodinieri (Lévl.) W. J. de Wilde & Duyfjes. Lecotype: China, Bodinier 1957 (E).— Monoecious. Ovary and fruit globose. Distribution: widespread, in Sri Lanka and southern peninsular India, and from N India to S China, Indochina and Malesia, at low and medium altitudes 3. Zehneria hookeriana (Wight & Arn.) Arn. Type: S India, Wight 1117.—Monoecious. Ovary and fruit globose. Distribution: endemic to southern India, in montane area. Thanks, … In view, we can go for Zehneria bodinieri . Mahabaleshwar, MH :: Zehneria bodinieri for validation :: ARK2020-087 : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2) – around 900 kb each.
Seen this climber near the Venna lake in Mahabaleshwar, MH in March 2020.
Guess this is Zehneria bodinieri.
Requested to please validate.
I also think this to be Zehneria bodinieri
Re: SK419 13MAR-2017:ID : 9 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (12) Location: Raniban, Balaju, Nepal
Date: 26 August 2016
Altitude: 4800 ft.
Yes, I know but need correct ID ! Pl. check comparative images at Cucurbitaceae I checked but could not conclude! Zehneria species as per images herein & as per comparative images at Cucurbitaceae Zehneria maysorensis (Wight & Arn.) Arn. (accepted name) ?? Pl. see distribution of Zehneria species in India : The Cucurbitaceae of India: Accepted names, synonyms, geographic distribution, and information on images and DNA sequences by Susanne S. Renner, Arun K. Pandey. (2013)
As per this, Zehneria maysorensis is distributed in Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka, Kerala, Maharashtra, Meghalaya, Tamil Nadu. Endemic.
Zehneria indica (Lour.) Keraudren is a synonym of Zehneria japonica (Thunb.) H.Y. Liu with
Distribution in India: Arunachal Pradesh, Assam, Bihar, Himachal Pradesh, Meghalaya, Nagaland, Punjab, Sikkim, Uttar Pradesh, Uttarakhand, West Bengal. Distribution outside India: Thailand, China, Japan; Indonesia (Java, Sumatra)
I think Zehneria maysorensis (Wight & Arn.) Arn. Is a good species. This is still kept in unidentified section in the site. Is not it the correct ID. I guess it is the correct ID.
… says distribution: confined to southern peninsular India, at low altitudes for Zehneria maysorensis (Wight & Arn.) Arn.
It may be some other Zehneria species. Pl. check with other species in efi site.
It appears more closer to Zehneria bodinieri (H. Léveillé) W. J. de Wilde & Duyfjes rather than Zehneria japonica (Thunb.) H.Y. Liu as per images and details herein. Could it be? It is not listed in Nepal. No. Definitely it is not Zehneria maysorensis as per details herein and as at Zehneria
It is likely to be Zehneria bodinieri only as per keys and details herein.
Recently a new combination seems to have been made as Zehneria odorata (Hook.fil. & Thomson ex C.B.Clarke) M.D.Dwivedi, A.K.Pandey & H.Schaef., Taxon 67(1): 62 2018 (syn: Zehneria indica (Lour.) Keraudren as mentioned in Checklist of Nepal) as per POWO. However, POWO does not show its distribution in Nepal.
Earlier The Cucurbitaceae of India: Accepted names, synonyms, geographic distribution, and information on images and DNA sequences by Susanne S. Renner, Arun K. Pandey. (2013) has given Zehneria indica (Lour.) Keraudren (as mentioned in Checklist of Nepal) as a syn. of Zehneria japonica (Thunb.) H.Y. Liu. Pdf of Zehneria odorata (Hook.fil. & Thomson ex C.B.Clarke) M.D.Dwivedi, A.K.Pandey & H.Schaef., Taxon 67(1): 62 2018 is available at
Enclosing herbarium image from Nepal for ref.
1 embedded image. Botanical name of the climber please 1 October 2010 : Attachments (3).
Could someone identify the climber please? The leaves remind of Coccinia but the fruits are too small. This plant is somewhat matching to Zehneria bodinieri (H.Lév.) W.J.de Wilde & Duyfjes in shape of fruit and length of fruiting pedicel. But the leaves of this plant are different from that of Kaas plants. Let us wait for comments from experts. I guess it matches withZehneria maysorensis (Wight & Arn.) Arn. Zehneria maysorensis As per keys at Zehneria, fruits are ellipsoid in Zehneria maysorensis .
SK 2783 16 October 2020 : 12 posts by 2 authors. 9 images- 6 to 7 mb each.
Location: Badikhel, Lalitpur
Date: 19 September 2020
Elevation: 1743 m.
Habitat : Wild
Zehneria ….. ???
Zehneria bodinieri (H. Léveillé) W. J. de Wilde & Duyfjes as per comparative images, keys and distribution at Zehneria So far it is not listed in Nepal. So a bit confusion! I think we have discussed this many times before.
Publications at Zehneria are much after the Checklist of Nepal. . 155 ID wild plant Cucumis: 10 images. Please ID wild plant on a building terrace,
Location: near Reserve Forest, Chathamattom, Ernakulam District, (Kochi) Kerala PIN:686671 Altitude: 1400fsl Flower date: 27.08,2021, 03.40pm Habitat: wild moisture Plant habit: climbing, branches, slender angular weak stem 02mm diameter, hanging spring thread or tendrils, annual Height: 01.5 meters Leaves: alternate, heart shaped, apex, toothed margins, size:06×04cm or less Flower: 5 petals, diameter:02mm, white, non fragrant Fruit: globular green, diameter:14mm Seed: Camera: mobile Samsung Galaxy A21s Check Zehnaria Zehneria scabra (L.f.) Sonder ! Yes, it is, … Please see screenshots below. Thank you very much for ID my plant, It is Zehneria bodinieri (H. Léveillé) W. J. de Wilde & Duyfjes as per keys and details herein and as per comparative images at Zehneria. . SK 3643 25 September 2022: 3 very high res. images. Location: Ranibari, Kathmandu
Date: 21 September 2022
Altitude: 1370m.
Habitat : Wild
Image quality is not good ! Go by authoritative publication, I referred to you earlier. It is Solena heterophylla So Zehneria became Solena ?? Got confused with a poor image. The link was for The Cucurbitaceae of India: Accepted names, synonyms, geographic distribution, and information on images We had discussions earlier also regarding the ID of this sp. Since, this sp. has got no distribution in Nepal it looks like detailed study is necessary. Only this has got distribution as per detailed work done on this genus in W.J.J.O. DE WILDE & B.E.E. DUYFJES in THAI FOR. BULL. (BOT.) 32: 15–31. 2004.
Even the following publication points towards Zehneria bodinieri (H. Léveillé) W. J. de Wilde & Duyfjes:
https://phytokeys.pensoft.net/article/1454/ I have checked this earlier and there is no distribution for Nepal unless it is new to Nepal. . ID 08/14/2/23: 1 very high res. images. Please check https://efloraofindia.com/2011/04/06/zehneria/ ! Appears so at first glance. Appears close to images and details at
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