Embelia tsjeriam-cottam

Deciduous shrubs; young stem densely brown pubescent. Leaves 3-7 x 2-4 cm, elliptic-obovate, attenuate at base, margin serrulate, caudate acumiante at apex, glabrous, venation prominent below; petiole to 1 cm long. Racemes axillary, 2.5-4 cm long, appear along with leaves. Peduncle brown pubescent. Pedicel c. 2 mm long. Calyx lobes triangular, c. 1 mm long. Corolla yellow with a thick callous at base inside; lobes 1.5-2 mm long, punctate. Anthers with red gland at the back. Ovary globose; stigma truncate. Fruits 3-4 mm across, subglobose, red tipped by the style.  

140711 RV 1: Attachments (3 + 7). 9 posts by 8 authors.
I saw this woody climber flowering in Sudhagadh district, about 100 km from Mumbai in wild. Please help to identify this climber.

This looks like some Embelia sp.? (Family: Myrsinaceae).

This is Wavding [Embelia basaal]. Will send my photographs of this later.

The nomenclature of this group is confusing, to me at least!

WAVDING is an important ayurvedic herb… its listed in ayurvedic herb books as Embelica ribes….
and not this…. e. basaal… any ayurvedic medicine plant expert among us?

The earlier common name for ‘Vauding’ in Maharashtra is ‘Basaal’ published by Drakestein van Rheede in Fifth volume of ‘Hortus Malabaricus’ (1685) which has made line-drawings of more than 800 species from Malabar Coast, presently called the West Coast of India or Coast of Konkan. In those days East Coast of India was called Coast of Coromandel and West Coast as Coast of Malabar.

            ‘Basaal’ of van Rheede for the first time, was named under Linnaean binomial system of Nomenclature and under Sexual system of classification included in class Pentandria monogyna by Roemer and Schulters (1819) as Ardisia basaal Roem. & Schulters, based on presence of 5 stamens and one chambered cells of the ovaries in the flowers. 

Presently genus Ardisia O. Swartz is placed in Robert Brown’s family Myrsinaceae. As per Bentham & Hooker’s, Natural system of classification our species falls under same family Myrsinaceae, but it differs in Generic concept of Ardisia O. Sw. and has been shifted to genus Embelia Burm. f. (nom. cons.).

Some authors, like Wight (1852), Cooke (1903), Santapau (1967), Malhotra & Moorthy (1971), Bole & Almeida (1984), Nicolson et al (1988), Ugemuge (1986) had confused ‘Vauding’ with Embelia tsjarium-cottam, an Euphorbiaceous species based on another drawings in Rheede’s ‘Hortus Malabaricus’ (Tsjarium-cottam, Hortus Malabaricus 5: 21-4, t-11, 1685), which goes under the name of Antidesma ghasembilla in our Indian Floras for which correct name is Antidesma pubescens Roxb. 

The correct identity of Ayurvedic  ‘Vidanga’  Embelia ribes N. Burman

Check for Embelia tsjeriam-cottam…??

Yes, it is Embelia tsjeriam-cottam, Synonyms is Embelia basal

Thanks for sharing some very good photographs of an important plant.
This seems to be uncommon.

Genus Embelia comes in family Primulaceae.

Thanks to all it was clicked during night time was not able to take full tree photo because of don’t have powerful flash. 

The nomenclature of this group may be confusing. I believe that some of the posts labeled as Embelia basaal in this page are probably of E. tsjeriam-cottam, if I am right. Any botanical name here without the author citation might cause confusion.
Few authors consider Embelia basaal auct. non Roem. & Schult. and E. tsjeriam-cottam (Roem. & Schult.) DC. as one and the same. However, Wadhwa & Sumithraarachchi (in Revised Handbook to the Flora of Ceylon-vol 13) have tried to clear the confusion by making a new combination for the first species as Embelia aurantiaca (Wall.) Wadhwa. They have also provided a detailed note on the nomenclature issue of this complex. But, for some (unpublished?) reason, this name is now listed as synonym of Embelia drupacea (Dennst.) M.R.Almeida & S.M.Almeida and this name has still not been recognized by GRIN.
We should probably need to revisit Embelia in our records.

Thanks, … There are five threads there- if you point out particular threads out of these, I can put them for Id again.

Hey … is partly right, It is Embelia but definitely not ribes. I will have to check but it could belong to E.tsjeram-cottam

Embelia ribes is very rare. Commonly seen species is Embelia basal which is the one in photo.

Thanks … It is Embelia basal.

I would request people to give a little more thought to this.
According to my references,
1. E. basaal has flowers in racemes (not panicles), which are supposed to be 3 times shorter than the leaves
2. E. robusta too has flowers in racemes much shorter than the leaf
3. E. ribes has flowers in much-branched panicles, which are longer than the leaves. Also, the panicles are at the end of branches.
In … first picture, I can clearly see a branched panicle.
In … pictures, flower clusters appear to be much smaller than the leaves, and many of them are not at the end of branches.
For lack of further evidence, I would tend to think that … plant could be E. ribes. A scandent shrub can sometimes look like a small tree.

Embelia tsjeriam-cottam

Yes, agree with …,  For me too it’s Embelia tsjeriam-cottam !!

“The nomenclature of this group may be confusing. I believe that some of the posts labeled as Embelia basaal in this page are probably of E. tsjeriam-cottam, if I am right. Any botanical name here without the author citation might cause confusion.
Few authors consider Embelia basaal auct. non Roem. & Schult. and E. tsjeriam-cottam (Roem. & Schult.) DC. as one and the same. However, Wadhwa & Sumithraarachchi (in Revised Handbook to the Flora of Ceylon-vol 13) have tried to clear the confusion by making a new combination for the first species as Embelia aurantiaca (Wall.) Wadhwa. They have also provided a detailed note on the nomenclature issue of this complex. But, for some (unpublished?) reason, this name is now listed as synonym of Embelia drupacea (Dennst.) M.R.Almeida & S.M.Almeida and this name has still not been recognized by GRIN.
We should probably need to revisit Embelia in our records.

Please also check these links

I think it is difficult to id in vegetative stage.

Leaves resemble Maesa indica and also young leaves of Embelia tsjeriam-cottam. It might be Embelia because the branches seem long and flexible.

I will try to capture this shrub in the flowering or fruiting stage to confirm the identification.

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Catalogue of Life  The Plant List  GRIN  Flora of Pakistan (Embelia robusta Roxb.) 

Annotated checklist of the flowering plants of Nepal (In bold at the top- Embelia tsjeriam-cottam (Roem. & Schult.) A.DC. with Embelia robusta Roxb. as a synonym) 

India Biodiversity Portal (Embelia tsjeriam-cottam A.DC. with Embelia robusta Roxb. & Embelia acutipetalum (Lam. ex Hassk.) S.M. & M.R.Almeida  as synonyms)

Medicinal Plants in Andhra Pradesh, India  By T. Pullaiah (2002- Embelia tsjeriam-cottam A.DC. with Embelia robusta Roxb. as a synonym)

Indian Medicinal Plants: An Illustrated Dictionary edited by C.P. Khare (2007- Embelia robusta C.B.Clarke, non-Roxb. with Embelia tsjeriam-cottam A.DC. as a synonym)

Flowers of India  IPNI Plant Name Query Results

Embelia tsjeriam-cottam (India)