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As stated by K.M. Matthew in his Excursion Flora of Central TN: The phenology of this tree (Flacourtia ramontchii) changes with altitude gradient; i.e., smallest in deciduous zone (lower), Medium at ca. 750msl, and exceptionally larger ones in sholas.
Styles absent (stigma sessile)… F. latifolia
Styles distinct and conspicuous:
Tomentose young twigs; leaves turning brown on drying …. F. montana
Glabrous young twigs; Leaves not turning brown …. F. indica.
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Another spinous plant , growing in the wild, outskirts of bangalore:
Shrubs 4 to 6 ft height, fruiting and flowering in November.
The 1st and 2nd images are of two different plants, very similar, bearing separately male and female flowers
but there might have been one male plant also having fruit.
The fruit turns black on ripening; it has 3 or 4 seeds.
Please check Flacourtia jangomas. Nice capture.
After checking as per … pointer to Flacourtia jangomas, I think this may be Flacourtia indica, not jangomas. It also matches with the Wiki image, for indica
- The leaves are mostly oblong/elliptic, with obtuse not acute or acuminate apex, seem more stiffly coriaceous compared to the shiny leaves of jangomas.
- The immature fruit size was only 3.5 mm long.,
- The style branches are about one-third as long as the globose base ( ovary ?),
As per efloras of China:
F.jangomas : Pistillate flowers: ovary bottle-shaped to globose, 2-3 mm; styles 4-6, united into a distinct column ca. 1 mm, not or slightly free at their apices; … Fruit brownish red or purple,….1.5-2.5 cm in diam.,
F.indica: Pistillate flowers: ovary globose, placentas 5 or 6; styles 5 or 6, united only at base, radiating, 1-2 mm, slender. Fruit dull to blackish red, globose, 8-10 mm in diam
Experts may please validate and if a key to Indian species can be shared that would be very helpful.
Request for ID : 10 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (5).
Please identify the attached files of a thorn shrub from Telangana.
Flueggea leucopyrus comes to my mind.
Flacourtia indica (Burm.f.) Merr.
Yes Sir, You are right. This is Flacourtia indica.
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Date: March 2018.
Pl. check species available with images at /species/m—z/s/salicaceae/flacourtia
I think it is Flacourtia indica as per images herein and as per distribution and other details at Flacourtia
   
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Time: November 16, 2011 at 4.56pm
Habit: small-sized tree
Habitat: planted (not sure, may be wild grown) in a forest resort garden
Plant: about 5 – 6 m high, and as wide, well-armed branches, branched spikes
Flower size: about 1 cm across
Flaucortia indica
Family : Flacourtiaceae
Yes to me also it look like Flacourtia indica
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04-05-2010 / 03:00 PM |
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Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- |
Mudumalai WLS; 600 msl; TN |
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Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- |
Riverine |
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Tree |
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Up to 6 metre |
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Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- |
10 x 6cm; serrate margin |
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Inflorescence Type/ Size- |
Faciscle |
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Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- |
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Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc. |
Mature trunk armed |
It looks like a Flacourtia sp.
Yes …, it looks like Flacourtia ramontchii. I have seen only male flowers of this sp so far.
Girth of the tree I shot was about 90 – 100cm.
Yes …, some authors like Matthew accept this species as distinct while some others consider it a form of Flacourtia indica. This is a high altitude replacement of the latter species, and quite distinct and its a tree with no spines on branchlets (only trunk spiny). F. indica is always a shrub of scrub jungles with prominent spines on branchlets.
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Photographed at Velugonda hills, Eastern ghats, Nellore-Kadapa borders.
This is a species of Flacourtia.
We have also previously discussed about this plant here. It is a higher altitude replacement of F. indica.
Earlier discussion in our group regarding Flacourtia ramontchii is in the link
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spiny shrub2 Hooghly 22-01-13 sk3:
Place : Hooghly
This may be Flacourtia indica.
T H A N K Y O U V E R Y M U C H for introducing to it.
plantillustrations (fig. B ?)
- nothing found
- http://plantillustrations.org/species.php?id_species=441705
- http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/tro-13200963
- http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?17124
- http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=220005300
- http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200014454
- also entry in http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200014454
- illustrations – http://plantillustrations.org/species.php?id_species=441668
Which species is my plant?
Perhaps this is compound spine – http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6023/5977710827_8de53ef0e8_n.jpg
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I hope this is rightly identified as Flacourtia indica..
Well okay the commonest Flacourtia in India.
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Have no idea of identity.
Please suggest the ID.
I agree with …, Flacourtia indica, the elevation of around 900 m either way is not unusual for its distribution.
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Saw this thorny shrub at Devgad, Konkan, MH in May 2017. No flowering or fruiting seen.
Is this Flacourtia sp.
Flowers and fruits will help.
I thought of Flueggea leucopyrus but the leaves are serrulate here! Any suggestion is welcome. If the genus turns out to be Flueggea, then it will warrant treating an a distinct new variety on the character of the leaf margins. Very interesting case.
Flacourtia?
F. Indica!
Thank you … for validating. I thought as much.
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This may be from Flacourtiaceae…
Looks like Flacourtia sp.
It is Flacourtia indica male plant
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Salicaceae (including Flacourtiaceae) Fortnight: Flacourtia indica Pune SMP2 : 3 posts by 3 authors.
Flowering in Feb in Pune Vetal Tekdi Pune. Mah
Excellent pictures …
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Salicaceae (including Flacourtiaceae) fortnight :: Flacourtia indica at Burondi :: DVFEB08 : 1 post by 1 author. 3 images.
Flacourtia indica (Burm. f.) Merr. … also placed in Flacourtiaceae
at Burondi on 12 APR 09
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at Tungareshwar Wildlife Sanctuary on 20 APR 13
It is flowering on Vetal Tekdi presently. Feb is the flowering time here in Pune.
Thank you very much … It flowers around same time in Tungareshwar WLS.
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at Tungareshwar Wildlife Sanctuary on 07 FEB 09
Well okay the commonest Flacourtia in India.
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please verify if this is Flacourtia indica…
To me it is Flacourtia indica.
Excellent photos.
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Alagarkoil flora 270814 TBN 1 for id : TBN Aug 1 : 5 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (6).
Altitude :approx 900 ft
Habitat :wild,
Height :less than 10 ft
Flowers :as shown, yellow
Fruits :not seen
As shown, magnet for Common Crow and Blue Tiger butterflies
Can it be of the Capparidaceae family?
Looks like Flacourtia, cf. Flacourtia indica (N. L. Burman) Merrill
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wild shrub /small tree from the out skirts of Bangalore,
One of the commonest Indian species.
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Flora of Madh: Flacourtia indica (Burm.f.) Merr. – Male Flowers, Fruit, Spines : VG-APR-21 : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (4)
Sharing some photographs of the male flowers, the unripe fruit, and the spines of the dioecious Flacourtia indica. The first two photographs are from separate male and female trees respectively.
Photographed on Madh Hill (North Mumbai) in March 2015.
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I need id assistance of following four images of Flacourtia?
Date of Collection: 11.04.2015 (flower) & 28.04.2015 (fruiting)
Locality: JNU New Campus forest
Please check with Flacourtia indica (Burm.f.) Merr.
It looks like Flacourtia indica
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Flacourtia indica
| on Vetal Tekdi Pune– Feb.’09?; Narendrapur near Kolkata city; | Bridellia retusa? – indiantreepix | Google Groups | TREE For ID3 -MPD- 8th April 2008 – indiantreepix | Google Groups |
| Flacourtia indica green fruit – indiantreepix | Google Groups | Discussion on shrubs-of-india – indiantreepix | Google Groups | Plant for Id fr. Dr.Kadus – efloraofindia | Google Groups |
Thorny shrub- Bengal – efloraofindia | Google Groups
PLANT FOR ID 34 SMP 26 FEB 2009 – indiantreepix | Google Groups
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This is small spiny shrub, with very shiny, glabrous thick leaves. seen in December. There were no blooms
Some Flacourtia ?
It is Flacourtia indica, cant guess climber in the foto..
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| Jan 17, 2009, at Tungareshwar Wildlife Sanctuary; 05 Mar, 2010- 8.30 am- Kanakeshwar, Alibag MS; | Flacourtia montana . – efloraofindia | Google Groups |
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Flacourtia species for ID.:
I think this is Flacourtia latifolia T.Cooke. Please validate.
A small tree flowering presently (23 Jan 2010) on Vetal Tekdi Pune.
Armed with sharp spines. Leaves ovate, obovate alternate with serrate margins red petiole.
Flowers yellow with many stamens. No styles or stigmas visible. Size 0.5 cm or so. in small racemes.
After reading a lot from older posts and literature I understood some important points about Flacourtia genus…………
1) It now belongs to Salicaceae and previously to Flacourtiaceae.
2) The flowers are without petals. Only sepals
3) Flowers are unisexual. Fruit is a berry rather than a capsule as in Casearia
(My pictures are probably showing only male flowers)
4) If one sees female flowers one has to look carefully for the stigma and style to differentiate between the species.
5) There is a lot of confusion between F.indica and F. latifolia.
6) Acc. Flora of BSI Mah ;
Styles absent(stigma sessile)… F. latifolia
Styles distinct and conspicuous:
Tomentose young twigs; leaves turning brown on drying …. F. montana
Glabrous young twigs; Leaves not turning brown …. F. indica.
7)Cooke’s Flora doesn’t mention F.indica.
8) From Cooke’s flora. the size of flower is a good additional differentiating character.
9) In all the above species the thorns do not bear flowers and fruits. Cooke mentions about one species
which bears flowers and fruits on thorns as F.sepiaria
Now I have to go to the species and check for female flowers; check for the young twigs to see whether they are glabrous ortomentose…..hmmmmm
and also take some leaves for drying to see whether they turn brown. I think I had kept some twigs for 2 days which dried but did not turn brown.
I would like to share some more information………………….
The botanical name is of particular historical and geographical interest in South Africa. ‘Flacourtia’ honours E. de Flacourt (1607-60), a governor of Madagascar, who knew the Cape before van Riebeeck, and indica indicates that the east is equally the home of this little tree of the Transvaal bushveld.(REF>
worldagroforestrycentre… )
Secondly Flacourtia is a host plant for the butterfly Common Leopard.
This could be a male plant of Flacourtia ramontchi.
We have discussed this earlier also, I think. Again there is difference of opinion about its synonymy with F. indica.
I think its F. indica
I think it is difficult to tell apart male plants of F. indica and F. latifolia. From the leaves and fruits on female plants found around Pune it can be said that … plant can be F. latifolia. It is unlikely that male plants of F. indica also grow in Pune along with female plants of F. latifolia. Irrespective of the locality these pix can be treated (and post closed) as F. latifolia/indica.
Though these are distant shots, yet they appear to me like any Flacourtia species the most probable one can be F. indica… please give your suggestions.. was shot from … area in Himachal Pradesh…
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080719AB1 ID : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1)
Identification, please. I understand this could be inadequate to identify. A sapling; could be of a shrub or a tree, and no flower or fruit for assistance in identification.
Date/Time- November 7, 2017; 09:28 hrs.
Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- Eastern Melghat
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- Wild
Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Not sure
Height/Length- 1-2′ Height
May be Flacourtia indica
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Date/Time- November 7, 2017; 13:17 hrs.
Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- Eastern Melghat
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- Wild
Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Shrub/Sapling of a tree
Height/Length- 2-3′
Elevation- 700m
Flacourtia indica. Salicaceae.
outskirts is forwarded for identification.
may be some Flacortia sp.
May be Cassine glauca also
Want to go with Cassine glauca studing the leaf morphology and arrangment. please see the attached photo of a twig of this plant and I have hilighted the areas of match and try to resemble with the original photos.
Was the tree trunk thorny? and are the leaves in opposite (or sub opposite) or alternate phyllotaxy.
Please send us details when you request for Id please. Also, I suggest you to collect informations from local people such as whether the fruit is edible or not (because the fruit of Flacaurtia spp. is edible and people use the fruit to make pickle). This would enhance the data base and the enthusiasm of different people as well, I guess.
This does looks like Flacourtia indica. Definitely not Celastraceae.
I also think it is not from Celastraceae.
It should be either Flacourtia or Scolopia. Not Cassine.
Please provide a bigger, more detailed picture(s) of a couple of leaves and a branch with possible thorn. Otherwise the suggestions below will remain suggestions only.
Flacourtia indica
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Flacourtia indica 30423: 2 images.
Wild shrub from Asansal area of West bengal.
The fruit is edible, I think.
Yes sir, Flacourtia indica‘s fruits are edible
Yes, appears close to images at
https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/01/flacourtia-indica/
Flacourtia indica fruit SN8523a: 4 images.
Flacourtia indica fruit from Asansol, Ranchi.
Fruit is sweet and edible.
FOR VALIDATION :: Flacourtia indica (Burm.f.) Merr. :: Varai, Thane district :: Apr 14, 2010 · JUN23 DV558: 2 images.
Flacourtia indica (Burm.f.) Merr. … FOR VALIDATION
Varai, Thane district :: Apr 14, 2010 · 12:16 PM IST :: about 46 m (151 ft) asl
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Salicaceae: Flacourtia indica (Burm.f.) Merr.: 1 image.
synonyms: Flacourtia flavescens Willd., Flacourtia ramontchi L’Herit.
location/date: Nandi Hills, Bangalore, Karnataka, July 1997
Attached images are tree sp. from Assam. Please Id of the sp.
Date : 16.03.24
Location: Assam
Family : Salicaceae (?)
Genus & species : ??
Habit: Small Tree; thorn present
I think close to images at
https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/01/flacourtia-indica/
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Catalogue of Life GRIN Flora of Pakistan Annonated checklist of the flowering plants of Nepal Flora of China
The Plant List 1 (Flacourtia indica (Burm. f.) Merr.) The Plant List 2 (Flacourtia ramontchi L’Hér.)
http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=all&q=Flacourtia+indica&m=text
