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Ardisia elliptica Thunb. (syn: Anguillaria solanacea Poir.; Ardisia doma Wall. ex A. DC.; Ardisia elliptica Bedd.; Ardisia elliptica var. solanacea (Poir.) Thw.; Ardisia kotoensis Hayata; Ardisia littoralis Andr.; Ardisia nana Buch.-Ham. ex A. DC. (ambiguous synonym); Ardisia oleracea Buch.-Ham. ex A. DC.; Ardisia polycephala Wight (ambiguous synonym); Ardisia salicifolia A. DC. (ambiguous synonym); Ardisia solanacea (Poir.) Roxb.; Ardisia solanacea var. parviflora (Talbot) Punekar & Lakshmin.; Ardisia sorsogonensis Elmer ex Merr.; Ardisia umbellata Roxb. (ambiguous synonym); Bladhia elliptica (Thunb.) Nakai; Bladhia humilis (Vahl) Sasaki; Bladhia kotoensis (Hayata) Nakai; Bladhia solanacea (Poir.) Nakai; Climacandra littoralis (Andr.) Kurz; Climacandra multiflora Miq.; Climacandra obovata Miq.; Climacandra salicifolia (A. DC.) Miq.; Icacorea humilis (Vahl) Britton; Icacorea solanacea (Poir.) Britton; Icacorea zeylanica Lam. ex Roem. & Schult.) as per Catalogue of Life;
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ar-DIZ-ee-uh — Latin: ardis (a point), referring to the pointed anthers … Dave’s Botanary
so-lan-uh-SEE-uh — resembling the Solanum genus … Dave’s Botanary .
commonly known as: shoebutton ardisia, spear flower • Bengali: বনজাম bonjam • Hindi: धनप्रिया dhan-priya • Kannada: ಬೋದಿನಗಿಡ bodinagida • Malayalam: കാക്കഞാറ kakkanjara, കോലരക്ക് kolarakku, കുഴിമുണ്ടൻ kulimundan, മോളക്ക molakka • Marathi: बुगडी bugadi, दिकना dikna • Nepali: दमाई फल damaai phal • Odia: ବଣଜାମୁ banajamu, କାକଜମ୍ବୁ kakajambu • Tamil: கோழுருச்சி kolurucci, கோழிக்கொடை kozhikotai, மணிபுஷ்பம் manipushpam, நாரிக்கண்டம் narikandam • Telugu: అడవి మయూరి adavi mayuri, కాశి నేరేడు kaashi neredu, కొండ మామిడి konda mamidi, కొండ పొగడ konda pogada, కొండమయూరము kondamayuramu, పగడ ములక pagada mulaka • Tulu: ಬೋದೆ bode
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Ardisia elliptica Thunb. ! Ardisia solanacea Ardisia solanacea Yes, it is the syn ! No … Both are accepted names, there is a huge difference between two ; both species currently with me in live. Yes … Only GBIF says it is the syn. Other links says differently. Flora of China gives the following keys:
From the above, it appears both are really close. Flowers neither appear to be corymbs or raceme nor in umbel.
How to decide? May I request you to let us know the differences between the two? Very simple … Leaves up to 30 cm long matured ones, young leaves it self more than 10 cm, thick, broadly oblong-ovate…. A solanacea
Leaves up to 10 cm long mature ones, young 2-3cm, thin, ovate …… A elliptica.
When comparing both sp, Ardisia solanacea is double plant body then A elliptica entirely. eFlora of China says: But it is really difficult to judge the size of leaves from a photograph. Kindly note that the photographs were sent to me, i havent myself seen the live plant. Im assisting a young man who is making a native plant nursery to replant local species on the hill near his village in Madanapalle District, Andhra Pradesh. For some unknown reason, he is unwilling to directly engage with efloraofindia, tho i have showed how easy it is multiple number of times.
i have asked him to send me better pictures with better detail and more information on the dimensions when he is able to visit the location again with the purpose of collecting fruit and seeds for his nursery.
Im sorry that i cant help much in this endeavor to clarify Ardisia solanacea and A. elliptica at this point.
May i request … to upload pictures of the two specimens he has access to? The efloraofindia database doesnt have any pictures expressly of A. solanacea and that gap could be thus filled.
I have kept observations of both (due to difficulty in segregating them as well as Catalogue of life treats both as same) at
https://efloraofindia.com/2013/01/24/ardisia-elliptica/
IDENTIICATION:
Attaching two images of a wild plant in bloom. I saw this plant for the first time at Tezpur (Assam). It is a small tree. The leaves are thick and the flowers are waxy. It bears berry and Bulbuls eat the berries.
I find this plant at Cooch Behar also.
ID Request 30052011 PJ3:
Id requested for the following attachment. Date/Time-: 29/05/11 – 10:00
Location- Place, Altitude – Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,Karnataka, 380 mtrs Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- wild Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- tree Height/Length- 2.5 mtr this is Ardisia solanacea of Myrsinaceae, one of the very important leafy vegetable for the tribal of Orissa and the fruits are also edible. yes Ardisia solanacea,
fruits when ripe are black berry like… in bengal santhal tribe calls it Gara-gulanchi…. use roots for treatment of edema
031111PD03 Ardisia solanacea Flora of Orissa: Name of the species: Ardisia solanacea
Family: Myrsinaceae
Place of collection: Ranpur, Nayagarh, Orissa
Altitude: 230 m above msl
Habit: Shrub
Habitat: Moist deciduous forests, near streams and canals
Uses: The young and fresh leaves are cooked as leafy vegetables and the ripe fruits are edible.
Tree/shrub? for ID – 101211 – RK: Could be some Ardisia sp.? Yes it also looks like Ardisia to me Beautiful plant! even ive not come across this before in lalbagh… Ardisia oxyphylla? Just checked with flowersof india. Seems to fit. It may be Ardisia solanacea For me the tree is Ardisia solanacea – Myrsinaceae, Tamil: Manipudbam
Bush for ID : Lalbagh,Bangalore : 020812 : AK-3: Could this be Ardisia solanacea (Family: Myrsinaceae). yes, it looks like Ardisia solanacea only Yes for me. These pictures also appear to be of Ardisia solanacea. Kindly confirm id.
Ardisia sp. (Primulaceae = Myrsinaceae) Thanks, …, can it be Ardisia solanacea Yes it is ardisia solanacea Myrsinaceae
Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (inc. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Ardisia solanacea (Poir.) Roxb. SN June02 : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2).
Plumbaginaceae, Primulaceae and Myrsinaceae Fortnight : Ardisia For ID : Jim Corbett,Uttarakhand : 110614 : AK-6 : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3). Yes please
Plumbaginaceae, Primulaceae and Myrsinaceae Fortnight : Ardisia solanacea : Myrsinaceae : Lalbagh,Bangalore : 110614 : AK-1 : 5 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (4). Waw
July2015sk16/18 — CKBS — Ardisia humilis Vahl ? : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (9)
This shrub is common in CKBS, Kolkata. I recorded it in Dec-2013, remained unidentified. I haven’t seen it in places in Hooghly I visited. The last photograph is of a seed (as far as I can remember).
… thread may be same species.
Sir Prain, Haines and FBI think Ardisia solanacea of Flora Indica is synonymous with Ardisia humilis Vahl; a shrub. But TPL and FoC think otherwise.
What would be its correct ID?
Or is it some other taxon? It is Ardisia only, but species can be confirmed after verifying the flower character. Thank you very much …, since it is Ardisia it should be A. solanacea Roxb. as per KEY and distribution in ‘Bengal Plants’ and FoC.
Flora of Kaiga_Sharing_ Ardisia solanacea 13052016 PK1 : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (3)
Pl see Attached 3 pic of Beauty of Pink Flower – Ardisia solanacea The leaves are eaten as salad. roots used in fever, diarrhea and rheumatism from Kaiga Uttara kannada Western Ghats.
Date/Time-:12/05/2015 – 10:30, wonderful photos and nice information for ethnobotanical uses
86-TSP-ID-12JUL2016-1: A medium sized tree @ Kottigehara for ID : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (4)
Kindly identify this medium sized tree. Habit: A medium sized tree. Habitat: Wild, Semi-evergreen forest Sighting: Chikmagalur, Karnataka, about 1100 msl Date: 04-03-2016
Names of Plants in India :: Ardisia solanacea Roxb. : 5 posts by 3 authors.
via Species > A > Ardisia solanacea Roxb. … family: Primulaceae ~ Myrsinaceae
Very nice … I got it in wild only recently in M.P. Thanks, … You are doing a great job. Update: Names compiled / updated at dineshvalke.blogspot Ardisia solanacea Roxb. ar-DIZ-ee-uh — Latin: ardis (a point), referring to the pointed anthers … Dave’s Botanary
so-lan-uh-SEE-uh — resembling the Solanum genus … Dave’s Botanary commonly known as: shoebutton ardisia, spear flower • Assamese: পচলা ৰঙা pachala rana, টোলঠা পকা tola para • Bengali: বনজাম bonjam • Hindi: धनप्रिया dhan-priya • Kannada: ಬೋದಿನಗಿಡ bodinagida • Malayalam: കാക്കഞാറ kakkanjara, കോലരക്ക് kolarakku, കുഴിമുണ്ടൻ kulimundan, മോളക്ക molakka • Marathi: बुगडी bugadi, दिकना dikna • Nepali: दमाई फल damaai phal • Odia: ବଣଜାମୁ banajamu, କାକଜମ୍ବୁ kakajambu • Tamil: கோழுருச்சி kolurucci, கோழிக்கொடை kozhikotai, மணிபுஷ்பம் manipushpam, நாரிக்கண்டம் narikandam • Telugu: అడవి మయూరి adavi mayuri, కాశి నేరేడు kaashi neredu, కొండ మామిడి konda mamidi, కొండ పొగడ konda pogada, కొండమయూరము kondamayuramu, పగడ ములక pagada mulaka • Tulu: ಬೋದೆ bode botanical names: Ardisia solanacea Roxb. … synonyms: Anguillaria solanacea (Roxb.) Poir. • Bladhia solanacea (Roxb.) Nakai • Niara montanensis Dennst. … POWO … and Ardisia elliptica auct. non Thunb.: Bedd. • Ardisia humilis auct. non Vahl.: Clarke … Flora of Pakistan Bibliography / etymology
~~~~~ ENGLISH ~~~~~
shoebutton ardisia
spear flower
~~~~~ ASSAMESE ~~~~~
পচলা ৰঙা pachala rana
টোলঠা পকা tola para
~~~~~ BENGALI ~~~~~
বনজাম bonjam
~~~~~ HINDI ~~~~~
धनप्रिया dhan-priya
~~~~~ KANNADA ~~~~~
ಬೋದಿನಗಿಡ bodinagida
~~~~~ MALAYALAM ~~~~~
കാക്കഞാറ kakkanjara
കോലരക്ക് kolarakku
കുഴിമുണ്ടൻ kulimundan
മോളക്ക molakka
~~~~~ MARATHI ~~~~~
बुगडी bugadi
दिकना dikna
~~~~~ NEPALI ~~~~~
दमाई फल damaai phal
~~~~~ ODIA ~~~~~
ବଣଜାମୁ banajamu
କାକଜମ୍ବୁ kakajambu
~~~~~ TAMIL ~~~~~
கோழுருச்சி kolurucci
கோழிக்கொடை kozhikotai
மணிபுஷ்பம் manipushpam
நாரிக்கண்டம் narikandam
~~~~~ TELUGU ~~~~~
అడవి మయూరి adavi mayuri
కాశి నేరేడు kaashi neredu
కొండ మామిడి konda mamidi
కొండ పొగడ konda pogada
కొండమయూరము kondamayuramu
పగడ ములక pagada mulaka
~~~~~ TULU ~~~~~
ಬೋದೆ bode
. Names of Plants in India :: Hindi name of Ardisia solanacea : 4 posts by 2 authors. Please validate the Hindi name bisi written in Devanagari script as बिसि.
Reference: ENVIS-FRLHT
There is one instance of this name rendered in Devanagari script here in Wikimedia; I am not sure whether it is written correctly.
There is no other instance found on internet. … is correct i.e. the name rendered in Devanagari script. Thanks … for the validation. Do you know of any reference (web/ book) which has this name ?
Attached images are Ardisia solanacea (Poir.) Roxb.
Date :25.07.2017
Location: Assam Family : Myrsinaceae Genus & species : Ardisia solanacea (Poir.) Roxb. Habitat: Grows wild Habit : Shrub
Tree : 10 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (4)
Location Rajnagar Kumarghat Unakoti district Tripura Ardisia (Myrsinaceae)
Pl. check with images at Ardisia solanacea
Thank you …
Both Ardisia colorata and Ardisia solanacea are available in Tripura
My doubt is why young twigs are reddish in colour.
Thanks, Digpati ji.
It does not match with images of Ardisia paniculata (syn: Ardisia colorata Link)
So it has to be Ardisia solanacea
Ardisia Species for ID : Jijamata Udyan,Mumbai : 300618 : AK-21 : 8 posts by 5 authors. Attachments (2)
Ardisia Species seen earlier at the garden. For Species id please.
To me it looks close to Ardisia solanacea.
Ardisia escallonioides Schiede & Deppe ex Schltdl. & Cham. ?? Yes it looks Ardisia solanacea to me too…
Nice to hear from you after a long while. And many thanks for the suggested id.
Fwd: [efloraofindia:186850] Another plant for identification SN1 : 5 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1).
This is another plant from Chorla, Goa. The flowers seem like plastic. Looks like Ardisia solanacea This may be Ardisia. Ardisia sp. May be Ardisia solanacea of Myrsinaceae. Thank you all
Fwd: Identification needed : 5 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (1). Picture quality is rather bad, hence can’t be sure. It seems to be of Ardisia. Ardisia solanacea.
Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Myrsinaceae- Ardisia solanacea from Anmod Ghat-PKA4 : 6 posts by 5 authors. Attachments (2).
Ardisia solanacea (Family: Myrsinaceae). Beautiful close up of the flowers.
Plumbaginaceae, Primulaceae & Myrsinaceae Fortnight 1-14June2014: Ardisia solanacea from Uttarakhand_DSR_2 : 5 posts by 5 authors. Attachments (1). This species is very common along the Shiwalik hills and commonly associated with moist Sal forest. Thanks … if this is common, I have missed this till now..
ANSEPT70 Please identify this tree : 5 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (4).
Camp Geedee, Bannerghatta August 2014 Ardisia solanacea Roxb. of Myrsinaceae Ardisia solanacea . Names of Plants in India :: Telugu names of Ardisia solanacea : 3 posts by 1 author.
Among many names and their variants listed in ENVIS-FRLHT for Ardisia solanacea, I would like to get following validated:
I hope I have written the above two names correctly; thanks to A Telugu-English dictionary by Charles Philip Brown
నేరేడు neredu (or నేరెడు neredu), though finds an entry in Brown’s Dictionary for Ardisia humilis, (synonym of A. solanacea), it looks like being used as a generic name for plants bearing cherry or plum-like fruits. Thus using prefix like కాశి (Kaashi, Benares city) will separate it from అల్లోనేరేడు allo-neredu, భూతనేరేడు bhuta-neredu, జంబునేరేడు jambu-neredu. నక్కనేరేడు nakka-neredu, etc. you are perfectly correct in writing
In sanskrit Jambu phal means Neredu fruit. May I know what is the Botanical name of Bhuta neredu In telugu it is called konda mamidi, adavi mayuri, and konda pogada also. కొండ మామిడి, అడవి మయూరి, కొండ పొగడ– it is also given in CRC world dictionary of medicinal plants. Pagadam means red coral in telugu, since the fruit is reddish and round like a coral it is called as Pogada mulaka. Many many thanks … for the additional names, and the related information. . Names of Plants in India :: Tamil names of Ardisia solanacea : 5 posts by 3 authors.
Following Tamil names are mentioned at Biotik for Ardisia solanacea:
மனிபுதம் (maniputam) and கோழிக்கோட்டை (kolikkottai)
They are also listed at ENVIS-FRLHT:
kozhikkottai, manipudbam / maniputpam, narikandam
1) Would மணிபுஷ்பம் (manipushpam) make better sense for மனிபுதம் (maniputam) / manipudbam / maniputpam ?
2) Does கோழிக்கோட்டை (koli-k-kottai) seem to make sense for A. solanacea ? Google text / image search does not display results related to plants at all.
3) narikandam, is a name shared by Aegiceras corniculatum with Ardisia solanacea. Would it rather be spelled as நாரிக்கண்டல் ?
Forgot to mention this name: கோழுருச்சி kolurucci which appears in Wikipedia. 1) Would மணிபுஷ்பம் (manipushpam) make better sense for மனிபுதம் (maniputam) / manipudbam / maniputpam ? Yes! மணிபுஷ்பம் (manipushpam) (= bead flower or bell flower) must be the correct name. Manipudam or Maniputam do not make sense to me.
2) Does கோழிக்கோட்டை (koli-k-kottai) seem to make sense for A. solanacea ? Google text / image search does not display results related to plants at all.
I am not sure but கோழிக்கோட்டை seem to be fine. The name ‘kozhikotai’ கோழிக்கொடை (= chicken’s umbrella, referring to the shape of the flower) is also seem to be appropriate http://indiabiodiversity.org/species/show/7964.
3) narikandam, is a name shared by Aegiceras corniculatum with Ardisia solanacea. Would it rather be spelled as நாரிக்கண்டல் ?
The Tamil name ‘kandal’ is generally applied to mangrove plants. So, I would retain the name ‘narikandam’ நாரிக்கண்டம் here based on the reference/s.
The name கோழுருச்சி ‘kolurucci’ sounds legit, too.
The Malayali tribes in Tiruvannamalai district (TN) call this plant as ‘Paalaamani’ பாலாமணி or ‘Kokkaa mani’ கொக்கா மணி. Thank you very very much … Great help with validation and clarity !! Will update my notes soon.
ARDISIA HUMILIS : 6 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (1)
I came across Ardisia humilis for the first time in a jungle at Tezpur (Assam). I brought a sapling from there. The plant gave flowers and fruits for few years. Now I find the plant in some bamboo groves at this place. Attaching a collage of the same.
Very nice! love the color and the pristine daintiness. i used called these porcelain flowers in my younger days not knowing botany at all then, in class 3 or 2. i have submitted one these here a few years ago. forget what was the final diagnosis. found it was called Ardisia littoralis I think your plant is closer to images and details at Ardisia solanacea (Poir.) Roxb.
Ardisia humilis Vahl is not found in India as per Catalogue of Life and your post also looks different from it as per
Ardisia humilis Bl. is a syn. of Ardisia javanica A. DC. as per Catalogue of Life and your post also looks different from it as per
Thank you. I will check. flowers in the image looks similar to the image of Ardisia humilis as given in the images in PLANTS OF INDIAN BOTANIC GARDEN by Chowdhery and Pandey.
But your plant is wild. Flowers of many species look similar.
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Solanum look-alike flowers but NOT Solanum species ID PLEASE Garden Plant UD 001:2013: This plant was found growing in a friend’s garden in 2011 October… she did not know the name… this year its gone … so no further history as it developed.
When I photographed it, it was about 3 feet tall, new leaves were emerging, looking fresh. Largest leaf was about 10– 12 cms long , no hairs on top or bottom. The main stem was an inch thick and just becoming woody, so I suspect this would have been a shrub if developed, or even a bush. Not a herb by any means.
The flowers are vaguely reminiscent of the Solanum species but not really… flowers were 1.5 to 2 cms across , light pink somewhat fleshy petals.
The berries at that point were green, about 4 – 6 mm round … with a little black point of a dot.
It is Ardisia sp. of Myrsinaceae family, look like Ardisia littoralis Andr. Please check Thank you … Please compare the description of plant;
Ardisia littoralis Andr.:
Erect branched shrub to 1.5 m tall. Leaves clustered towards the ends of the branches, 5-11 x 2.4-5 cm, obovate-oblong or elliptic, base cuneate, apex acute or subobtuse, coriaceous; petiole to 1 cm long. Inflorescence axillary or lateral umbels, rarely lengthened into racemes; peduncle 2-3 cm long. Flowers pink; pedicels 0.8-1.4 cm long, stout. Calyx 3-5 mm long; lobes elliptic, obtuse, with membranous margins, in fruit enlarged, orbicular, closely pressed to the berry. Corolla-lobes 5-7 mm long, obliquely ovate-acuminate, gland-dotted. Berry 5-7 mm across, dipressed globose, apiculate, red at first turning purplish black.
Ardisia solanacea Roxb.:
Trees, to 6 m high; bark brown, smooth. Leaves simple, alternate, estipulate; petiole to 10 mm long, stout, glabrous; lamina 10-18 x 4-6 cm, obovate, elliptic-obovate or oblanceolate, base cuneate, apex acuminate or acute, margin entire or obscurely crenate, glabrous, glaucous beneath, coriaceous, gland-dotted; lateral nerves 9-20 pairs, parallel, slender, obscure, secondary laterals faint, intercostae obscure. Flowers bisexual, 1.3 cm across, bright pink, in axillary or lateral umbels; peduncle 5-(12) cm long; bracts 1.5-2 mm long, concave, deciduous; calyx lobes 5, 3 x 1.5 mm, concave, ovate, obtuse, ciliate, persistent, leathery, twisted to right; corolla 2.5 cm across; lobes 5, twisted to right, in bud, 10 x 7 mm, ovate, coriaceous, punctate; stamens 5, connivent around style, exserted; filaments short; anthers sagitate, 7 mm; ovary superior, globose 3 x 2 mm, 1-celled, ovules many; style elongate, as long as the corolla lobes; stigma terminal. Fruit a berry 8 mm across, globose, bright red.
Ardisia sonchifolia Mez.:
Shrubs; branchlets gland-dotted. Leaves 10-22 x 4-6 cm, oblanceolate, acute to acuminate at apex, attenuate and auricled at base, entire; nerves ca. 16 pairs, strongly punctuate along the margins; petiole 5 mm long. Umbels terminal, 5 x 5 cm, tomentose, peduncled; pedicels 5-6 mm long, rusty-tomentose. Flowers 5-15 in an umbel, pale pink; sepals 3 x 1.5 mm, ovate, acute, hairy; corolla lobes 4 mm long, ovate, acute, punctate; anthers acute. Berry 6-7 mm across, pink, glabrous. According to the description provided by … it looks like Ardisia lottoralis
key
1. Umbels terminal ……………….. Ardisia sonchifolia Mez.
1. Umbels lateral or axillary ………2
2. peduncle 2-3 cm long …………. Ardisia littoralis Andr
2. peduncle 5-(12) cm long ……… Ardisia solanacea Roxb. This is without doubt Ardisia littoralis
Plant of Baturraden 8 : Attachments (1). 3 posts by 2 authors. Ardisia elliptica
SHIBPUR IBG : sk-Oct-10 : Ardisia sp. : 7 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (6). Ardisia littoralis? I had submitted a case in 2013, there is a nice differentiating description for the 3 commonly seen Ardisias.
efi thread
hope this helps. The more I read FoC, FoAus (specially the inflorescence type) and FI the more I am confused. Finally, for obtuse tipped leaves I think it is A. elliptica Thunb.; syn. A umbellata Roxb., A. littoralis Andrews. Very tough, confusing, I regret why I didn’t use my scale, attached here KEY of some species by Prain and Haines and records by Roxburgh. Do you remember where exactly was it that you photographed it?
It may still be blooming, it seems its blooms around here now around durga puja time. My pictures were also at durga puja. Though this year when I went back to the same garden the plant itself was gone. Inside the garden I was totally at a loss. I fail to remember direction, we (my colleague was there) entered through Andul Rd gate went straight to the Great Banyan Tree, to Kyd monument, then took return path to AndulRd gate… this much I can remember!
Location: Hong Kong Park
Date: 15 August 2018
Elevation: 200 ft.
Habit : Cultivated
Also check Ok …! Looks like Ardisia quinquegona but not sure. fruits and leaves are not matching to Ardisia quinquegona.
ok. Did you check at https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m—z/po/primulaceae/ardisia/ardisia-elliptica ? This is Ardisia quinquegona.
Yes, I checked.
But the images of Ardisia quinquegona look different at http://hkcww.org/hkplant/readid.php?id=1094
I thought so.
Pl. check my suggested species.
OK. …
May be Ardisia elliptica.
Ardisia humilis Fruits : Lalbagh Botanical Garden, Bangalore : 15FEB20 : AK-13 : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (5)
Seen at the garden in Dec,19. You have posted it many times from Lalbagh as Ardisia solanacea (Poir.) Roxb. (syn. of Ardisia elliptica).
It is the same.
Thanks … This was seen at a different location in the garden.
Hence I posted it for validation.
Ardisia solanacea (Poir) Roxb. : Attachments (1) – 1 mb.
Ardisia solanacea (Poir) Roxb.(MYRSINACEAE): Picture from ‘Edible Fruit Plants Conservatory’, JNTBGRI, palode, Trivandrum.
Fwd: Ardisia humilis : 3 posts by 1 author. 2 images- 1 & 6 mb.
Ardisia humilis Vahl (MYRSINACEAE: Photo from Edible Fruit Plants Conservatory, JNTBGRI, Palode
Is the inflorescence axillary or terminal ? Do you have an image showing that ?
Ardisia humilis Vahl have distribution in Bangladesh and Mynamar as per Catalogue of life and east Himalayas as per POWO;
As per keys in Flora of China, Difference appears to be based on inflorescence.
For Ardisia humilis Vahl, Inflorescences terminal, rarely terminating lateral branchlets, subumbellate or cymose in pyramidal panicles, 8-17(-20) cm (FoC illustration).
For Ardisia elliptica Thunberg (syn: Ardisia solanacea (Poir.) Roxb.), Inflorescences axillary or subterminal on basally thickened lateral branches, subumbellate or umbellate.
Pl. clarify.
Most of our observations in efloraofindia have been of Ardisia elliptica, as per details herein. One more picture of Ardisia humilis. Thanks, … It is Ardisia elliptica & not Ardisia humilis Vahl (which is generally confused with Ardisia elliptica), as the inflorescence axillary.
🙂 Can not recollect … could be a large shrub.
Place: Veermata Jijabai Bhonsale Udyan (formerly Victoria Gardens)
Date: 09 MAY 08
ID please. it is Ardisia solanacea I think it is Mahua flower. thank you for the comment; but am convinced that this is Ardisia solanacea. your plant is Ardisia solanacea for sure. But as per my observation goes.. Ardisea petals are pink… and often purple tinged..
But the present plant is having white petals…
May be an albino..? Doubts has been raised about it being Ardisea solanacea in thread: This is not Ardisia solanacea for sure. So many posts have already been happened on Ardisia solanacea with proper validation. will not be able to answer your queries very well … the agony is … the plant is no longer in the garden … the thought never occurred to me, that a small shrub may be dislodged / removed to make way as part of garden’s routine maintenance. Could it be Ardisia elliptica? I think Ardisia elliptica Thunb., as per images and details herein. .
it is an Ardisia species from family MYRSINACEAE I think Ardisia elliptica Thunb., as per images and details herein.    Plumbaginaceae, Primulaceae and Myrsinaceae Fortnight : Ardisia For ID : Myrsinaceae : Jijamata Udyan,Mumbai : 120614 : AK-8 : 5 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (3).
Ardisia Species seen in Jijamata Udyan, Mumbai. For Species id please. May be Ardisia solanacea The photographs you have displayed may be Ardisia crenata, A. obovata and A. elliptica Ardisia for sure. However, the plant looks more like Ardisia elliptica (Shoebutton Ardisia). Please check the leaves character
Yes, this seems to be some Ardisia sp. I dont think this is Ardisia littoralis, but for some other species of Ardisia. Ardisia elliptica Thunb. ?? I think Ardisia elliptica Thunb., as per images and details herein.
. Kolkata, December 2021 :: Tree for ID :: ARK2022-023: 5 images. Ardisia elliptica Thunb. ?? I see that others too have posted a similar tree from AJCB gardens.
What ID have they been given ? Ardisia elliptica only. . Ardisia elliptica Thunb.: 3 very high res. images. Location: Eden Project, Cornwall, UK
Altitude: 60m.
Date: 03 April 2022
Habit : Cultivated . MS,June,2022/13 Ardisia ? for id: 2 images. Altitude : ca. 1,000 m
Date : 26-06-2022
Habit : Undershrub or small shrub.
Habitat : Wild Pl. check https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/07/ardisia/ Ardisia elliptica Thunb. Syn : Ardisia solanacea (Poir.) Roxb. Any keys? Thanks, …, for the id, which looks most probable.
Yes, appears to be Ardisia solanacea, as per keys also. . 338 ID wild small tree: 15 high res. images. Ardisia elliptica Thunb. Yes, it is Ardisia elliptica, dear …, thank you very much for ID my plant, . Tree For ID – Horsely Hills, Andhra Pradesh – NW-2023-APR01: 7 images. Ardisia elliptica Thunb. ! IT is Ok, however please verify the ID. Ardisia solanacea Ardisia solanacea Yes, it is the syn ! No … Both are accepted names, there is a huge difference between two; both species currently with me in live. Yes … Only GBIF says it is the syn. Other links says differently. Flora of China gives the following keys:
From the above, it appears both are really close. May I request you to let us know the differences between the two? Very simple Garg Ji Leaves up to 30 cm long matured ones, young leaves it self more than 10 cm, thick, broadly oblong-ovate…. A solanacea
Leaves up to 10 cm long mature ones, young 2-3cm, thin, ovate …… A elliptica.
When comparing both sp, Ardisia solanacea is double plant body then A elliptica entirely. eFlora of China says: Kindly note that the photographs were sent to me, i havent myself seen the live plant. Im assisting a young man who is making a native plant nursery to replant local species on the hill near his village in Madanapalle District, Andhra Pradesh. For some unknown reason, he is unwilling to directly engage with efloraofindia, tho i have showed how easy it is multiple number of times.
i have asked him to send me better pictures with better detail and more information on the dimensions when he is able to visit the location again with the purpose of collecting fruit and seeds for his nursery.
Im sorry that i cant help much in this endeavor to clarify Ardisia solanacea and A. elliptica at this point.
May i request … to upload pictures of the two specimens he has access to? The efloraofindia database doesn’t have any pictures expressly of A. solanacea and that gap could be thus filled. I have kept observations of both (due to difficulty in segregating them as well as Catalogue of life treats both as same) at I am just an amateur gardener interested in native species, for reforestry and landscaping, actually more interested in the biology and ecology of plants. efloraofindia is very useful in identifying new plants i come across tho the identify is just the starting point of any understanding. Taxonomical details are not that important for me, personally. But it is very important for efloraofindia that every record is properly classified. I thought that the above debate about the difference between A. elliptica and A. solanacea could be clarified by you since you mentioned that you have access to both and hence, i suggested that you enlighten efloraofindia with a proper photographic documentation. As efloraofindia is based on voluntary contribution, … did not ask you directly and i, perhaps rudely, went above my station with my request.
i can provide my personal details, but i dont see how they are relevant here.
. . Ardisia solanacea Roxb.: 5 high res. images. Location: Tuslsipur – Purandhara – Botechaur Road , Surkhet, West Nepal
Date: 30 May 2023
Elevation 900m.
Habit : Wild Location: Baireni, Dhading
Date: 05 May 2024
Altitude: 450m.
Habitat : Cultivated 8 very high res. images. . Ardisia solanacea at Kaghinare: Karnataka: PKA13: 3 images.
Ardisia solanacea at Kaghinare: Karnataka .
Ardisia solanacea:
Please have a look ! I have some confusion..
https://www.flowersofindia.Shoebutton%20Ardisia.html https://indiaflora-ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=869&cat=13 Pl. check the discussions at Tree For ID – Horsely Hills, Andhra Pradesh – NW-2023-APR01
In view of the discussions and difficulty in differentiating them and different interpretations followed by different sources, I am keeping everything at Ardisia elliptica
. References: (Ardisia solanacea (Poir.) Roxb.):
References (Ardisia elliptica Thunb.): The Plant List Ver.1.1 GRIN Flora of North America Flora of China Wikipedia Tropicalplant |
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