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Common name: Round-Petal Mussaenda, Large-Leaf Mussaenda • Nepali: धोबिनी Dhobini • Mizo: Va-kep
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SK1322 26 JUL 2018 : 17 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (7)- around 700 kb each.
Location: Osho, Balaju, Raniban’ Nepal
Altitude : 4600 ft.
Date: 7 June 2018
Habit : Wild

Which Mussaeda ?


Try to match the sepals in the comparative images.

M treutleri

Thank you …! Mussaenda treutleri Stapf

Recently seen in Sikkim.

Is it the same …

Yes, it is.

Where are the additional image ?

Attachments (1)


Nepali Name : धोबिनी  Dhobinee

I also agree with … for Mussaenda treutleri as per
Here are the keys between two closely related species from Flora of China:
5 (4) Stems sericeous with appressed indument; stipules 5-8 × 4-5 mm; calyx lobes 4-11 mm. 19 M. macrophylla
+ Stems villous or hirsute with widely spreading trichomes; stipules 7-10 × 6-12 mm; calyx lobes 7-18 mm. 29 M. treutleri

Images in Flowers of India looks different and may be of some other species.


There seems to be some discrepancy in the description of Mussaenda treutleri at FOC and elsewhere.
According to Bhutan Biodiversity Portal, the sepals of Mussaenda treutleri are described as:
Calyx lobes filiform, tappering from base, 4-8 x 1mm, pilose. Corolla tube 1.6-3.2cm, distinctly widened upwards, sparsely pilose;
sepals of Mussaenda macrophylla are described as
Calyx lobes oblong oblanceolate or oblong elliptic, tappering from middle, 7-15 x 1-3mm, pilose. Corolla tube 2-2.8cm, pilose upwards
At India Biodiversity Portal, the calyx lobes of M. treutleri are described as
Calyx lobes to 1 cm long, linear-lanceolate
 I differentiated the two species based on the length of sepals compared to that of flower-tube. Going by the above description, the sepals of Mussaenda treutleriare much smaller than the flower-tube and very narrow. Sepals of M. macrophylla are larger (less than about half the flower-tube) and broader.
 Based on the above, I would assume that this plant is Mussaenda macrophylla.
FOC described sepals of M. treutleri as “lobes lanceolate, ligulate, or oblanceolate, 7-18 × 3-4 mm” 1.8 cm sepal length looks much larger than that in the other two descriptions.

Thanks, … To me … plant matches with illustration at
Also matches with the keys between two closely related species from Flora of China:
5 (4) Stems sericeous with appressed indument; stipules 5-8 × 4-5 mm; calyx lobes 4-11 mm. 19 M. macrophylla
+ Stems villous or hirsute with widely spreading trichomes; stipules 7-10 × 6-12 mm; calyx lobes 7-18 mm. 29 M. treutleri
From the keys, it is evident that hairs on stem play a key role in differentiating these two closely related species. Here the stem is clearly not sericeous with appressed indument. It appears to be villous.
Going through Flora of Bhutan also supports this as calyx lobes appear to be closer to filiform and tapering from the base rather than oblong oblanceolate or oblong elliptic, tappering from middle. Length of the calyx lobes and corolla tube seems to be quite variable as per the measurement given- thus there co-relation may not be correct.
Mussaenda macrophylla is different as per high resolution specimen and other posts by …:
Mussaenda macrophylla Wall. ??
Flora of China further states “This species is similar to Mussaenda macrophylla, and in the protologue M. treutleri was explicitly separated from plants commonly called M. macrophylla, both in the wild and in cultivation; in fact, the protologue noted that M. treutleri was already widely distributed in cultivation at that time incorrectly under the other name. Mussaenda treutleri subsequently has apparently still been confused with or combined with M. macrophylla, including by recent authors (e.g., Springate et al., Fl. Bhutan 2(2): 783. 1999). Mussaenda treutleri is here circumscribed somewhat differently than by H. H. Hsue and H. Wu (in FRPS 71(1): 301. 1999): the plants from montane Yunnan and adjacent regions with broad, generally persistent stipules were separated by Stapf from M. macrophylla and included in M. treutleri, and this distinction is followed here.”

Thank you …! …: Mussaenda pubescens and its SYN. are not listed in Nepal.


Finally taking it as Mussaenda macrophylla Wall. as per POWO Holotype
Looks different from Mussaenda treutleri Stapf as per POWO Syntype.



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Flora of Manipur: Mussaenda : 19 posts by 7 authors. Attachments (2)
Mussaenda macrophylla, the white bracts are attractive even from a distance in the forest.

…, does this plant have a climbing tendency ?


It was a shrub …, if i remember correctly.


Shouldn’t this be Mussaenda glabra? I would like to be enlightened about the differences.


Nice set of Pics … I had come across this Mussaenda sp. growing wild in the forest cover of Matheran – Prabal valley. Attching few photographs of the same. Attachments (4)


… plant seems to be different from …


…, the query because, had found similar species of Mussaenda at Prabal Machi (near Panvel, Maharashtra) … 11JUL10 8:28AM

Could see those white bracts on the canopy of a small tree (this tree was out of reach, so could not get nearer).
A photo (very poor quality, attached) shows the sighting, leading me to wonder whether any Mussaenda “climbs”.
Climb may not be appropriate, nor straggle … very loosely growing with sturdy support.
The habitat is a slope, and it is possible that the Mussaenda plant could be rooted somewhere higher up on the ground, and may have sent its slender branches among the tree branches … the apparent sight could have misled me. Attachments (1)


…, I will verify the id once again. My id has reference to the short calyx lobes. http://www.iaat.org.in/Rheedea19_53-57.pdf
M. glabra looks different from my plant as well as that of …: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ncmls/4326249184/ ; flowersofindia 
… plants (beautiful pictures!) have longer calyx lobes and pubescent corolla. So both are different species as you said.
…, i understand that there are some ‘climbing’ (straggling) shrubs in Mussaenda, for e.g. M. pubescens. Your plant looks like a straggling shrub to me too. So this thread contains three different species i hope. [I am unable to give a clearer picture as i dont have access to Indian Floras at present]. 

If not wrong, my plant could be same as …, on account of location.
My plant found near Prabal Machi (Panvel side) … … could be Matheran side.


I had noticed this plant both on Panvel side as well as on matheran side. Photos shared by me were from Matheran side.


I am coming back to this post after several year, after gaining some clarity on the Mussaenda species of the Himalayas. This indeed should be Mussaenda macrophylla, as … had originally identified. The roundish petals and relatively large hairy sepals are characteristic features of this species. Mussaenda glabra Vahl, on the other hand, is pretty much a hairless plant (as the name itself suggests), and has very small sepals:
Mussaenda glabra Flower tube: 1.3-1.8 cm, Sepal size: 1-4 mm
Mussaenda macrophylla– Flower tube: 2.-2.5 cm, Sepal size: 1.2-2 cm


I think it may be Mussaenda treutleri as per discussion under thread.
Here are the keys between two closely related species from Flora of China:
5 (4) Stems sericeous with appressed indument; stipules 5-8 × 4-5 mm; calyx lobes 4-11 mm. 19 M. macrophylla
+ Stems villous or hirsute with widely spreading trichomes; stipules 7-10 × 6-12 mm; calyx lobes 7-18 mm. 29 M. treutleri

Finally taking it as Mussaenda macrophylla Wall. as per POWO Holotype
Looks different from Mussaenda treutleri Stapf as per POWO Syntype.



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Mussaenda sp. for ID : 4 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (2).

Location : Lengpui, Mizoram
Altitude : c.400 m.
Habit : climbing shrub
Habita ; Wild
Date : 09-07-2014


Mussaenda some‎ species in India & eFI with some keys


Mussaenda frondosa


This should be Mussaenda macrophylla Wall. as per another thread: Flora of Manipur: Mussaenda
Thanks, … for validation in … thread.


I think it may be Mussaenda treutleri as per discussion under thread.
Here are the keys between two closely related species from Flora of China:

5 (4) Stems sericeous with appressed indument; stipules 5-8 × 4-5 mm; calyx lobes 4-11 mm. 19 M. macrophylla
+ Stems villous or hirsute with widely spreading trichomes; stipules 7-10 × 6-12 mm; calyx lobes 7-18 mm. 29 M. treutleri

Finally taking it as Mussaenda macrophylla Wall. as per POWO Holotype
Looks different from Mussaenda treutleri Stapf as per POWO Syntype.



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MS May, 2016/28 Mussaenda sp. for ID : 10 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (1)

Location : Lengpui, Mizoram
Altitude : ca 400 m.
Date : 24/06/2014
Habit : Shrub
Habitat : Wild


Please check for Mussaenda frondosa


Mussaenda glabrata


Mussaenda glabra ??


To me it appears more close to the images of Mussaenda frondosa rather than those of Mussaenda glabrata (Syn: Mussaenda frondosa var. glabrata Hook.f.);
Pl. also see illustration of Mussaenda frondosa from FOC: http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=119813&flora_id=2

To me it seems to be Mussaenda frondosa.


This should be Mussaenda macrophylla Wall. as per another thread: Flora of Manipur: Mussaenda
Thanks, … for validation in … thread.

I think it may be Mussaenda treutleri as per discussion under thread.
Here are the keys between two closely related species from Flora of China:
5 (4) Stems sericeous with appressed indument; stipules 5-8 × 4-5 mm; calyx lobes 4-11 mm. 19 M. macrophylla
+ Stems villous or hirsute with widely spreading trichomes; stipules 7-10 × 6-12 mm; calyx lobes 7-18 mm. 29 M. treutleri
Mussaenda macrophylla is different as per

Finally taking it as Mussaenda macrophylla Wall. as per POWO Holotype
Looks different from Mussaenda treutleri Stapf as per POWO Syntype.



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Fwd: Sharing Mussaenda macrophylla : 1 post by 1 author. Attachments (2)  – 2MB or more.
Sharing some pics of Mussaenda macrophylla shot in Kathmandu valley at 4000 ft.

I think it may be Mussaenda treutleri as per discussion under thread.
Here are the keys between two closely related species from Flora of China:
5 (4) Stems sericeous with appressed indument; stipules 5-8 × 4-5 mm; calyx lobes 4-11 mm. 19 M. macrophylla
+ Stems villous or hirsute with widely spreading trichomes; stipules 7-10 × 6-12 mm; calyx lobes 7-18 mm. 29 M. treutleri

Finally taking it as Mussaenda macrophylla Wall. as per POWO Holotype
Looks different from Mussaenda treutleri Stapf as per POWO Syntype.


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Mussaenda sp. for ID : 7 posts by 4 authors. Attachments (1)

Date : 24-06-2014
Location : Lengpui, Mizoram
Altitude : c.400 m.

Habit : Shrub
Habitat : Wild.


Mussaenda sp.


May be Mussaenda frondosa


efi page on Mussaenda frondosa


This should be Mussaenda macrophylla Wall. as per another thread: Flora of Manipur: Mussaenda
Thanks, … for validation in … thread.

I think it may be Mussaenda treutleri as per discussion under thread.
Here are the keys between two closely related species from Flora of China:
5 (4) Stems sericeous with appressed indument; stipules 5-8 × 4-5 mm; calyx lobes 4-11 mm. 19 M. macrophylla
+ Stems villous or hirsute with widely spreading trichomes; stipules 7-10 × 6-12 mm; calyx lobes 7-18 mm. 29 M. treutleri
Mussaenda macrophylla is different as per
gbif specimen

Finally taking it as Mussaenda macrophylla Wall. as per POWO Holotype
Looks different from Mussaenda treutleri Stapf as per POWO Syntype.


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Mussaenda treutleri in FOI : 2 posts by 1 author.
Mussaenda treutleri in FOI looks different from images under thread and as per
To me it may be some other species.


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MS Sept,2018/02 Mussaenda sp. for ID : 5 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (1)
Location : Tamdil, Mizoram
Date : 18-06-2018
Habit : Shrub
Habitat : Wild

Pl. check species at /species/m—z/r/rubiaceae/mussaenda 


Mussaenda frondosa L. ??

I think it is the same plant posted earlier many times by … and identified as Mussaenda treutleri as per images and details herein.


Finally taking it as Mussaenda macrophylla Wall. as per POWO Holotype
Looks different from Mussaenda treutleri Stapf as per POWO Syntype.



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MS May, 2016/27 Mussaenda sp. for ID : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2)

Location : Sialsuk
Altitude : ca.1,450 m.
Date : 14/05/2016
Habit : Shrub or small tree
Habitat : Wild


Mussaenda frondosa


This should be Mussaenda macrophylla Wall. as per another thread: Flora of Manipur: Mussaenda
Thanks, … for validation in … thread.


I think it should be Mussaenda treutleri, as per images and details herein.


Finally taking it as Mussaenda macrophylla Wall. as per POWO Holotype
Looks different from Mussaenda treutleri Stapf as per POWO Syntype.



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MS Sept. 2018/01 Mussaenda sp. for ID : 6 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1)
Location : Tamdil, Mizoram
Date : 18-06-2018
Habit : Shrub
Habitat : Wild

Pl. post image with a side view.

Same image.
Attachments (1) – 7 Mb.


Attachments (1) – 6 Mb.


Attachments (1) – 3 Mb.

Mussaenda macrophylla as posted earlier and identified as per images and details herein.

I think it should be Mussaenda treutleri, as per images and details herein.


Finally taking it as Mussaenda macrophylla Wall. as per POWO Holotype
Looks different from Mussaenda treutleri Stapf as per POWO Syntype.


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Mussaenda macrophylla : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (7)
Sharing some pictures I believe to be Mussaenda macrophylla. Shot at Mudkhu, Nepal on 9 August 2016 at 5000 ft.

Superb images, …


To me also appears close to images at Mussaenda macrophylla



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Mussaenda macrophylla Wall. ?? : 3 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (8)
Location: Nagarkot, Nepal
Altitude:5000 ft.
Date: 20 June 2017 

I also think so.


 


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Mussaenda glabra Vahl ??? : 6 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (4)

Location: Raniban, Balaju Kathamndu, Nepal
Altitude: 4400 ft.
Date: 31 August 2013

May be. 
Pl. also check comparative images at /species/m—z/r/rubiaceae/mussaenda

Also check for Mussaenda frondosa L. and  Mussaenda glabrata (Hook.f.) Hutch. ex Gamble

I think does not match with any of the two as per images in efi site.


Appears close to images at https://www.flowersofindia.Hairless%20Mussaenda.html
But I am not sure as calyx is not clear at FYI images.


I guess ID validation of this sp. is not final yet.
I am afraid it is not matching with M. frondosa and M. glabrata is not listed in Nepal.

Calyx lobes, pubescence of corolla tube and leaf texture should settle it for M. glabra


I think it looks different from Mussaenda glabra Vahl as per POWO specimen.
I think it is close to the images at Mussaenda macrophylla Wall.


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Mussaenda glabra in FOI:
I think images of Mussaenda glabra in FOI by Thingnam ji are of  Mussaenda macrophylla Wall. rather than those of  Mussaenda glabra Vahl, as per images and details herein.

Pl. correct.


I think you may be right …. We could not get a closer shot of this to properly see the sepals. I will remove it for now.


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