Syzygium samarangense

Attached are pictures of Syzygium samaragense captured at Hiranandani Gardens, Mumbai in January 2013.

Requested to please validate the ID.

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that’s right/correct way to definite id, … otherwise its a possible id …

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Combretaceae and Myrtaceae Fortnight: Myrtaceae- Syzygium sp?? at Diveagar -PKA-DEC57:: : 3 posts by 3 authors. Attachments (2).

Syzygium sp?? from Diveagar, Maharashtra.

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A cultivar of Syzygium samarangense

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Crassulaceae, Combretaceae and Myrtaceae Fortnight :: Myrtaceae :: Syzygium samaragense :: Velas, Konkan :: ARKDEC-40 : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (2)

Attached are pictures of Syzygium samaragense captured at Velas, Konkan in March 2013.

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Species id please.

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Thanks for the id.

I could not taste the fruits.

They were in a private home garden.

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efi page on Syzygium aqueum 

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The leaves indicate Syzygium samarangense, but the filaments are medium sized like those in S. aqueum. We need the pictures of the fruits and the taste of the fruits. I think this may be a hybrid. But wait until we receive the pictures. Thank you.

Is it the common Jamun, Syzygium cumini?

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… has suggested Syzygium samarangense.

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Seen this tree on the fringes of the Sanjay Gandhi National Park in Mumbai in December 2016. Not sure whether it is cultivated or wild, was in the premises of a bungalow in the park.

Requested to please ID the same.

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This looks like the Wax Apple [Syzygium samarangense (syn. Eugenia javanica)] to me.

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amrool AND jamrul: Please validate Hindi names for wax apple, Syzygium samarangense.
… जमरूल jamrul finds entry in Hindi dictionary.
Is अमरूल amrool a valid name ?

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.. according to Useful Plants of India (CSIR)

Jamrul is Begali name for Syzygium jambos (L.) Alston
Jamrul and Amrool are Hindi & Bengali names for S. samarangense (Blume) Merrill & Perry
Amrul in Kumaon is Oxalis acetosella

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Identification request :Ghatkopar tree ID2: Kindly identify this tree.

Date/Time-        15/05/2011       09:00AM
Location- Place, Altitude, GPS-     Ghatkopar, Mumbai, Maharashtra.

Altitude : Sea level
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-:  Urban
Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  : Small tree
Height/Length- 7Mtrs approx
Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-  as seen in picture
Inflorescence Type/ Size- as seen in picture
Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- as seen in picture
Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- small green as seen in picture

The white juicy fruits  are sold on footpaths of Mumbai and Pune currently.
Called as Jaam locally. Very tasty

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.., … since we being familiar with these fruits, would we agree that these have lot of water ?
The question keeps coming to my mind … would there be a better possibility of this plant being Syzygium aqueum ? … OR why not ? Earnestly requesting responders to take a look at one of my posts at efi thread

Correct name is … JAMRUL in bengali, local hindi speaking vendors call it SHADA JAM, for lack of any name in their dialect, scientifically it is , as identifified by so many here in this  forum such  as Satish ji, Dineshji , Ajinkya ji, and Pudji ji et al……..
Syzygium samarangense from Myrtaceae family.  Currently growing and fruiting in Kol Bot Garden….
ITS CURRENTLY in season being sold on the streets .. as shada jam…

by the way : the rose apple, S. Jambos… is also on the market, though not as common, now a days in some good markets, but not seen on the street vendors baskets…

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DV :: 20NOV07 – 01MAY08 :: Syzygium ¿ aqueum / samarangense ?: 10 images.

…. query of how are Syzgium aqueum and Syzygium samarangense triggered me post these for ID.
After much of search on internet, my guess: Syzgium aqueum … please validate.

Viewed at Native Place Resort, Kamshet, Near Lonavala … 01 MAY 08

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Viewed at MIDC Andheri … 01 APR 08

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Viewed at MIDC Andheri … 20 NOV 07

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As far as I can see, all are Syzygium samarangense (Bl.) Merr. & LM Perry.  Although the last four pictures show only flowers with relatively short stamens, but the leaves are still belonged to S. samarangense.  I may be wrong because in some cases there are some intermediates between both samarangense and aqueum.

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Many thanks … just for re-information — last 2 + 4 photos belong to the same plant, at MIDC Andheri viewed at different time. Would like to get know whether fruits of both species look similar to the
extent that a plain person would not be able to differentiate them ?

Description:
… aqueum: 3–10m high with short crooked trunk, 30–50cm in diameter, often branching near base. Irregular crown. Leaves opposite, elliptic-cordate to obovate-oblong, 7– 25cm long, 2.5–16cm wide, with 0.5–
1.5cm long leafstalk, sometimes with aromatic smell when crushed. Inflorescence at tip of twigs or from leaf axils with 3–7 yellow-white flowers, 2.5–3.5cm in diameter, calyx 5–7mm long, 4 petals about 7mm long.
Fruit cone-shaped, glossy white to red, 1.5– 2cm long and 2.5–3.5cm wide, watery with 1–2, sometimes 6 seeds.
… samarangense very similar but is somewhat larger, has thick, 3–5mm long leaf stalks, 15mm long calyx and larger pyriform fruits. Improved cultivars have green fruits. Leaves always aromatic smelling.

Key characteristics: Trunk short, crooked, often branching from base; crown irregular; leaves opposite; flowers yellow-white;
… aqueum: 5–15 mm long leafstalk and 5–7mm long calyx, small fruits;
… samarangense: 3– 5mm long leaf stalk, 15mm long calyx and larger fruit; aromatic xxxxxx

At World Agroforestry Centre … It is not easy to distinguish between the various S. aqueum and S. samarangense fruits.
however:

The wax jambu is glossy – indeed wax-like – and the flesh is rather dry.

The water apple is a watery, thirst-quenching fruit with a glistening, almost translucent skin. xxxxxxxxx

The hand painted illustration in the FAO document showing the conical versus pyriform fruits, make me more inclined towards Syzygium aqueum. Am sure, the fruits that are sold seasonally in and around Mumbai, Thane, or even down south near and around Mangalore, are water apples.

… tending to agree with.. ID of Syzygium samarangense

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Syzygium samarangense (jambu semarang):  1 image.

I send you a picture of some cultivars of Jambu Semarang.  I found at least 30 cultivars.  I hope it useful.

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Request Tree ID 081 – Lalbagh Bangalore – what kind of syzygium is this: 6 images.

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This is simply Syzygium samarangense (Blume) Merr. & L.M. Perry, the most widely spread Jambu either in villages, town, and cities in Indonesia.

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TQ-Unid-Delhi-01: Looks like a young tree planted in a park.
Petals seem to fall off fast. The flowers don’t seem to last long.
Photographed in April.
Please identify.

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Perhaps a Myrtaceae member, looking like jamun but missing stamens are confusing, as are somewhat lobed petals ( I hope i am not confusing something).

I think you are right! I should have posted a pic with stamens (which withered). Now that you say, it does look very much like Jamun, I have never seen a young Jamun tree, and never imagined it would be flowering.

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Syzygium species

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Looks like Syzygium jambos to me.

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I think … is correct i.e. Syzygium samarangense (Blume) Merr. & L.M. Perry. We call it jambu semarang. Semarang is a capital city of Central Java, but it was spelled as sAmarang by Blume.

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Very confusing data found on what will be the correct species ID of this plant. It is JAAMROOL in Bengali, produces white fruits, very common in villages.

Flora Indica describes –

1) E. aquea R. – two varieties, one with rose coloured fruits and the other is white

2) E. alba R. – white shining fruits…. very insipid and quite watery.

The fruits (yet to develop) in this species are watery indeed!

“An English Index to the Plants of India” informs JAAMROOL/JAMRUL is E. alba. The malaccensis one is MALACCA-JAMROOL.

Photos were taken on 03/04/2013, in an orchard.

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It will be more clear if you send the images of the fruits. To me, it is a hybrid of Syzygium aqueum and S. samarangense. There are some intermediates between both species. The flowers belong to S. aqueum but the leaves are almost similar to S. samarangense.

In Indonesia, I found some cultivars of S. aqueum i.e.: 1) permanently white, 2) white then pink, 3) large pink, 4) small red, 5) large red to dark red. Eugenia alba has been transferred to S. samarangense. Syzygium malaccense has deep pink flowers.

Thank you very much for the details. … also identifies this as Syzygium samarangense. Will try to get its fruits, to receive your view on the probability of a hybrid.

At the time of posting i read your comments in efi thread and in efi thread.

I noted Syzygium samarangense = Eugenia javanica Lamarck (eflora and GRIN) = E. alba Roxb. (MOBOT).

I thought the calyx in my species is elevated – efi thread.

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Sapling for ID : Attachments (1). 2 posts by 2 authors.
Location: Wayanad

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11/05/2011/YRP/01/ Naoroz Estate Chethalayam, Wayanad, Kerala: The botanical name of the plant please?
Date & Time 11/05/2011
Location: Place, Altitude, GPS Chethalayam, Wayanad.
Habitat: Garden, Urban, Wild Type: Garden
Plant Habit: Tree, Shrub, Climber, Herb Tree

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In Syzygium malaccense, or Eugenia malaccensis, the flowers will be pinkish red. Is this a variant or Could this be Syzygium samarangense syn. Syzygium javanicum, Eugenia javanica. (link Top tropicals)

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I think you are right, here is a link

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this is not Rose Apple. At least not to my knowledge. The Rose apple that I know actually have the flavour of Roses. This fruit does not.

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Definitely, what are these called I do not know some people call it champa or something like that. These fruits are edible and please check the link
There is a larger variety which is white in colour and whose flowers are scarlet red. I will post those pictures in a different thread. I do not have the fruits but got some pictures of the tree yesterday along with the flowers.

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Oh, OK…. that’s nice…. but rose apple I have seen in some nurseries and gardens on either coast … if labelled as rose apple…also have ROSE RED flowers…..

Your picture shows white flowers… this combination of white flowers and red jamun superficially (based on these 3 pics only) seems to be very similar to the one growing and labeled in the AGRI-Hort garden in Kolkata… that’s the source of my visual ID…

Taxonomists at eflora could all help in differentiating these varieties, I thank them inadvance… as to the varities, and id ….factors etc…

Some days ago … wrote about the differences between Syzygium aqueum & S. samarangense, where the first one has fruit cone- shaped, glossy white to red, while S. samarangense has larger pyriform fruits. Thus:
IMG_6369.JPG should be Syzygium aqueum (Burm. f.) Alston

I will add another special character for S. aqueum is the ACIDIC FRUIT.

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Knowing what I know NOW ….. some clarity and some more confusion???

SEVERAL POINTS: POINT 1): This is wax jambu in these pictures … the size and exact shape of the fruit is not visible… the rose colored ones are often labeled ” rose apple” in local supermarkets… ie it must be a local or colloquial name…… hence the confusion….
POINT 2): Another confusion is taste of the fruit… some fruits , some years from the same tree, produce fruits with nice sweet/sour (very dilute of course) taste… some years its just flat… this year it was of flat tasting fruits…

POINT 3): BUT THE REAL ROSE APPLE IS

 A DIFFERENT FRUIT ALTOGETHER, as Yadzy Ji pointed out …. AND I HAVE ALREADY PRESENTED A DETAILED PHOTOGRAPHIC DEPICTION OF WHAT IS A REAL ROSE JAMBU or ROSE APPLE… that has a definite ROSE scent and from which a rose essence was extracted in the 1840s… PLEASE
SEE MY ORIGINAL THREAD

The trees and their flowers and fruits I presented were identified by established botanical gardens (arboretums… ) run by universities….in California… no mistakes there… AND the fruits I presented I ate them myself… VERY PLEASANT rose scent and mouth feel very different from the WAX JAMBU..regardless of color…. and regardless of colloquial names be it rose apple or rose jambu or whatever…
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POINT 4) : I have some pictures of flowers of a properly identified tree labeled Syzygium samarangense
at Kolkata Botanical Garden … flowers are definitely white and fruits were also white…. since none were seen fallen on the ground..local urchins collect them asap… I do not have pictures of fruits fallen out of that tree… and now will have to wait till next spring and early summer…..

POINT 5): FOR further classification: I think one needs better depiction of the fruits that clearly shows the neck and overall shape of the fruit… size..

Though I think a lot of variation is possible…

MAY I PLEASE SUGGEST that …. JADZY Ji send us full side-view of the fruits, size, and a cut surface picture so that the shape can be judged,,,, POINT 6) : and PERHAPS the more important point is … just like Hydrangeas.. and perhaps other plants… the colors of the flowers (and perhaps the fruits) may vary with local soil conditions, pH, and presence / and /or absence of some metals. and micro-nutrients ….. may be some one can start a thesis project….

This is, most probably, Syzygium samarangense (Blume) Merr. & L.M.Perry (Java Apple) of Myrtaceae family.
anthrome
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syzygium_samarangense
World agro forestery center
Montoso Gardens

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Requesting ID of this Syzigium species – Jijamata Udyan Flower Show 2014 – Feb 2014 :: 04032014 :: ARK-05 : Attachments (2). 4 posts by 3 authors. Requesting to please ID this plant captured at the Flower Show 2014 at Jijamata Udyan, Mumbai in February 2014. Which Syzygium species is this? Is it the same that we cal ‘Jam’ in Marathi?

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Syzygium samarangense.  Java apple / wax apple

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Crassulaceae, Combretaceae and Myrtaceae Fortnight: Myrtaceae PW-Dec1 : 2 posts by 2 authors. Attachments (1).

Syzygium samarangense ‘Kaget Putih’